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Re: How many hams have private repeaters? #poll-notice


 

If I personally wanted to put up a "closed" repeater, for me and my ham friends & family, I would just pick a couple frequencies that wouldn't be bothering current infrastructure.? No standardized split of sorts.? If it was analog, probably use a PL tone for Transmit and DCS for receive and no hang-time.? Or just set it up on P25 with a Quantar.? Don't tell a bunch of people about it.? Don't make it known.? If it somehow bothers some current infrastructure, change frequencies.? Rinse and repeat as needed.

But that's me lol

I have 11 repeaters currently online, but haven't restricted use to any.? All the local hams seem to be pretty good about things, and the ones I've told not to continue to link crappy stuff into my repeaters have abided and disconnected that said gear.

73
Bill
N1RIK


On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 3:00 PM, Bob Dengler
<no6b@...> wrote:
At 1/5/2025 11:36 AM, you wrote:
I will disagree with your opening statement. Repeaters are NOT open unless the trustee decides they are open.

Yes.

?Unlike 146.52, a repeater pair is assigned to a particular person or group in a certain geographical area by a recognized frequency coordinating council. At that point in time, not only is the repeater, but the frequency belongs to the person or group.

No.

97.101 (b): Each station licensee and each control operator must cooperate in selecting transmitting channels and in making the most effective use of the amateur service frequencies. No frequency will be assigned for the exclusive use of any station.

?He may decide to only allow certain club members access that repeater.

Yes.

All of the above taken together may seem somewhat self-contradictory.? The way I see it, is that yes when I place my repeater on a frequency pair it is expected that I will have a clear, exclusive frequency for it to operate on, at least in the immediate coverage area.? But how does that work with 97.101 (b)?? To me, it means unless I want to share the channel with other repeaters covering the exact same area I have a responsibility to provide communications service on that frequency.? One could take that to mean that my repeater must be open.? I don't take it quite that far in that my repeater is private, but only as a means to keep control of the equipment.? Basically anyone who wants to use it may do so as long as they follow the rules, which aren't overly restrictive IMHO.? I also don't require dues-paying membership to use the repeater either, fur that would amount to charging $$$ to use the frequency.? There are certainly "member-supported" repeater systems around that do effectively charge dues to use the equipment; some of them get around all of the above by advertising their repeaters as open but if you become a regular user they start nagging you to join.

Bob NO6B

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