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Re: Solar 11 MAR 2025

 

That looks great, Duane! You also captured that fine striation, so clearly visible in Richard's observations.
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Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Re: Solar 11 March 2025 (Dark Sky Observatory)

 

Outstanding, Richard!!
How about some stunning TPs?
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Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Re: How much do your calibrations vary?

 

Jim,
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I'll look into your question as soon as I can. My RJ station is operated remotely, and I'm waiting for a few warmer days to head out.
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First of all: I've already had trouble deriving a stable calibration temperature from the measurements with the Noise Source Characterizer. I may have a malfunctioning noise source.
Therefore, I always add the background temperature to the measured signal temperature in my images to obtain something like a signal-to-noise ratio.
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Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Re: New radioJove station at Lancaster University, UK

 

Hi Joe,
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that's good to hear!

I operate my RJ receiver remotely, like some others probably do. I initially considered using VNC or TeamViewer software for remote control and then decided to run a TeamViewer host on the RJ PC. At the same time, I synchronize the storage device with Google Drive.
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So far, it's working very well! In my experience, it's better to turn Google Drive synchronization on and off, because the constant writing of data during observation otherwise causes Google Drive to delay synchronization and you don't get the data until a day later.
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I hope this helps a little in making a decision.
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Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Solar. 11/03/2025

 

Hi
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Solar events Today.
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Salvador


11 Mar 2025 Solar

 

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Adding to the pile, here's some solar Type III from the 11th.? Interesting angled (negative freq drift) components in the last few Type III bursts.?
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Dave







Solar 11 March 2025 (Dark Sky Observatory)

 

Hi Folks,
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Here are the solar bursts that we detected with our TFD array at the Dark Sky Observatory today.? These three bursts coincided in time with three flares, an M1, C7 and a C9 flare respectively.?
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Richard


New radioJove station at Lancaster University, UK

 

Hi folks: we'll be installing a dual-dipole antenna and receiver at Lancaster in July, with the aim of autonomous operation. This will be away from our campus at an experiment site in a field. If anyone has any advice on mini-PC choices for data logging inside a weather-proof enclosure (pelicase), that'd be great. Or indeed any advice in general on running a radioJove telescope remotely!
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Additionally, I'd be keen to hear from anyone using the radioJove antennas for WSPR mode operations.
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Thanks,
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Joe


Solar 11 MAR 2025

 

Observations from Grafton, WV.
Some noise with a little bit of solar mixed in.
~Duane


Solar 03/11/2025 Easley, South Carolina

 

Good evening:

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John


Re: 10 Mar 2025 Doubtful Io-B and real TPs

 

David,

Thanks for sharing the Cas A papers.? ?The 1700 UTC time is when Cas A transits here, not sure what time it transits in Germany.??

Andy

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 9:37?AM Dave Typinski via <davetyp=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andy,

Weird stuff does happen, so it's often unwise to speak in absolutes.? However,
in our experience:

Sabine's spectrogram shows a couple nested TPs with skip-focused edges (the
slightly hotter time-varying high freq cutoff).

Point source scintillation would span the whole observing bandwidth and would
look more like this:

(See page 2)




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Dave


On 3/11/25 08:52, Andrew Mount via wrote:
> Sabine,
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> Could that be Cassiopeia A scintillation instead of a TP?? ?Cass A RA is at
> transit at your location at 17:00 UTC.
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> Best wishes,
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> Andy
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> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 7:28?AM Sabine Cremer via <>
> <sc=[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>? ? ?It would take a lot of imagination to pass the spots off as Io-B. But the
>? ? ?TPs are real and really beautiful!
>? ? ?Sabine
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>? ? ?Germany
>? ? ?Standard time: UTC +1 hour
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Re: 10 Mar 2025 Doubtful Io-B and real TPs

 

Hi Andy,

Weird stuff does happen, so it's often unwise to speak in absolutes. However, in our experience:

Sabine's spectrogram shows a couple nested TPs with skip-focused edges (the slightly hotter time-varying high freq cutoff).

Point source scintillation would span the whole observing bandwidth and would look more like this:

(See page 2)
,%20Typinski%20et%20al%20(2014).pdf

,%20Brown%20&%20Flagg%20(SUG,%202017).pdf

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Dave

On 3/11/25 08:52, Andrew Mount via groups.io wrote:
Sabine,

Could that be Cassiopeia A scintillation instead of a TP? Cass A RA is at
transit at your location at 17:00 UTC.

Best wishes,

Andy

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 7:28?AM Sabine Cremer via groups.io <>
<sc@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

It would take a lot of imagination to pass the spots off as Io-B. But the
TPs are real and really beautiful!
Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Re: 10 Mar 2025 Doubtful Io-B and real TPs

 

Sabine,

Could that be Cassiopeia A scintillation instead of a TP?? ?Cass A RA is at transit at your location at 17:00 UTC.

Best wishes,

Andy?

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 7:28?AM Sabine Cremer via <sc=[email protected]> wrote:
It would take a lot of imagination to pass the spots off as Io-B. But the TPs are real and really beautiful!
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Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Re: 10 Mar 2025 Doubtful Io-B and real TPs

 

Hi Sabine,
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Wow nice one. The TP is popping out nicely!
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Huub


10 Mar 2025 Doubtful Io-B and real TPs

 

It would take a lot of imagination to pass the spots off as Io-B. But the TPs are real and really beautiful!
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Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Re: How much do your calibrations vary?

 

Jim
To be honest Jim I¡¯ve been working on taxes every spare minute. Think I¡¯m close to finished. But I can barely see any thickness in the plot. I need to move the calibrator over to a different computer and I¡¯ll let it run a week or so and send you a plot. It¡¯s pretty stable. I run the attenuators at 3.3 volts from an optoisolator which may help some. Looking forward to your new board.?
Larry

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On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 3:04?AM Jim Sky via <kh6sky=[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you Larry.? Appreciate the encouragement.

On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 3:25?AM Larry Dodd via <101science=[email protected]> wrote:
Jim
Yes good idea Jim. I have voltage regulators on each calibrator voltage line, 12v, 5v, and 3.3v and I can tell you they do drift slightly over months of time. Have not charted that but might be another source of change. I have to tweak them a few hundredths or tenths of a volt every month or two but seldom more than a volt. I keep an external box fan ?on 24/7 behind the desktop JOVE computers and calibrator. I have one older Dell that the power supply is slightly under sized and it runs hot. These new NVIDIA graphic cards are power hungry. When you purchase new computers its wise, I found out, to select largest power supply available. Even more of an issue for those running laptops. With radio room ?HVAC temp control and fan for additional circulation, temp never varys in the radio room much more than two degrees. I have one experimental test equipment box I fabricated ?that's ?temperature controlled with peltier thermoelectric modules and PT100 sensitive platinum RTD temperature sensors that can regulate its metal cabinet temp to less than one degree.?

Jim your new calibrator board should be super stable.?
Larry

On Mar 10, 2025, at 1:10?AM, Dave Typinski via <davetyp=[email protected]> wrote:

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This is an outstanding line of investigation, Jim!? Excellent idea.
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Dave


On 3/10/25 00:47, Jim Sky wrote:
For those who have ongoing observations and working calibrators,? I would like to ask a favor.? I want to see how much your calibrations vary over time.? If you have the calibrator running automatically every observation changes in the calibration plot will probably show some "thickening" indicating the amount of variance over several days.? Watching that display can give some confidence that things have not changed due to a problem in the telescope. Below is a copy of my calibration plot for my dipole over 10 consecutive days.? It is hard to know where this variation comes from, the receiver or the calibrator.? My experience has been that the SDRPlay 1A really requires an hour warmup to fully stabilize, which would indicate some temperature dependency probably even after the warmup.? The noise generator inside probably has some power drift with temperature and may have some sensitivity also to changes in it's power supply voltage. While it would be good to sort out the source of calibration plot variation, I am mostly interested in setting realistic error bars to our measurement.??
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If you can, please post a screenshot of your calibration chart (like mine below) after it has run uninterrupted for 10 or more days.? Also I would like to have your best guess at how much temperature variation your receiver and calibrator experienced from night to night when the observation started.? For example, my setup is in a partially heated room that experienced big differences from night to night during the period shown on the plot and I estimate it experienced about 8 degrees C from night to night.? ?I am interested in the temperatures when the calibration was performed, not throughout the day.? If your house has a well regulated heating system your system might experience less than a degree of variation between calibrations.
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Thanks!
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Jim Sky?
radiosky at radiosky dot com


Re: How much do your calibrations vary?

 

Thank you Larry.? Appreciate the encouragement.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 3:25?AM Larry Dodd via <101science=[email protected]> wrote:
Jim
Yes good idea Jim. I have voltage regulators on each calibrator voltage line, 12v, 5v, and 3.3v and I can tell you they do drift slightly over months of time. Have not charted that but might be another source of change. I have to tweak them a few hundredths or tenths of a volt every month or two but seldom more than a volt. I keep an external box fan ?on 24/7 behind the desktop JOVE computers and calibrator. I have one older Dell that the power supply is slightly under sized and it runs hot. These new NVIDIA graphic cards are power hungry. When you purchase new computers its wise, I found out, to select largest power supply available. Even more of an issue for those running laptops. With radio room ?HVAC temp control and fan for additional circulation, temp never varys in the radio room much more than two degrees. I have one experimental test equipment box I fabricated ?that's ?temperature controlled with peltier thermoelectric modules and PT100 sensitive platinum RTD temperature sensors that can regulate its metal cabinet temp to less than one degree.?

Jim your new calibrator board should be super stable.?
Larry

On Mar 10, 2025, at 1:10?AM, Dave Typinski via <davetyp=[email protected]> wrote:

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This is an outstanding line of investigation, Jim!? Excellent idea.
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Dave


On 3/10/25 00:47, Jim Sky wrote:
For those who have ongoing observations and working calibrators,? I would like to ask a favor.? I want to see how much your calibrations vary over time.? If you have the calibrator running automatically every observation changes in the calibration plot will probably show some "thickening" indicating the amount of variance over several days.? Watching that display can give some confidence that things have not changed due to a problem in the telescope. Below is a copy of my calibration plot for my dipole over 10 consecutive days.? It is hard to know where this variation comes from, the receiver or the calibrator.? My experience has been that the SDRPlay 1A really requires an hour warmup to fully stabilize, which would indicate some temperature dependency probably even after the warmup.? The noise generator inside probably has some power drift with temperature and may have some sensitivity also to changes in it's power supply voltage. While it would be good to sort out the source of calibration plot variation, I am mostly interested in setting realistic error bars to our measurement.??
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If you can, please post a screenshot of your calibration chart (like mine below) after it has run uninterrupted for 10 or more days.? Also I would like to have your best guess at how much temperature variation your receiver and calibrator experienced from night to night when the observation started.? For example, my setup is in a partially heated room that experienced big differences from night to night during the period shown on the plot and I estimate it experienced about 8 degrees C from night to night.? ?I am interested in the temperatures when the calibration was performed, not throughout the day.? If your house has a well regulated heating system your system might experience less than a degree of variation between calibrations.
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<mime-attachment.png>
Thanks!
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Jim Sky?
radiosky at radiosky dot com


Re: Some non-Io-A from tonight March 09 2025

 

Here is a little bit of the non-Io-A from last night later than 00hr UTC.? The second image shows the positive drift portion seen in the first image in more detail.
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Richard


Lightening

 
Edited

Spectrograms have been nothing but lightening strikes for hours. Very large storm in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina (about 1100 miles southeast from Prospect, ME) and small storms west of the Canary Islands.
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https://map.blitzortung.org/#3.83/33.08/-56.1


Re: Some non-Io-A from tonight March 09 2025

 

Hi Dave,
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Thanks for those interesting comments.? I am still just at the beginning of understanding the nuances of ionospheric propagation and, for that matter, the mechanisms behind Jupiter-Io DAM emission.?
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The non-Io-A emission continued beyond 0h UTC last night into that little "peninsula" of non-Io-A that actually lies above Io-C.? I will be posting some of that once that datafile is zipped up and loaded onto our data server.? However, looking at the screen shots that I took last night, some of that shows a positive frequency drift as well.
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Best wishes,? Richard