With an hour angle of +2 hours, Jupiter arrived a little too late for the preferred orientation of my antenna's lobe.
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Sabine
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Re: 30 Nov 2024 non-Io-B / non-Io-A
Hi Dave, I just got my dipole across the river working again - bad coax.? But to my surprise I did see some of the Non-Io-A.? Went to Larry's YouTube feed and it was coming through there quite strong.? Nothing Earth shattering? to report - just some evidence that a dipole is better than nothing.? I have the stuff to?turn it into a dual dipole but it just?turned frigid outside and I require?more than 3dB of incentive to overcome that.
The picture has been?normalized to remove the background.. Jim.??
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Re: Io 11/30/2024 Easley, South Carolina
Here you go John!
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Dave
On 11/30/24 23:10, AOL via groups.io wrote:
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Thanks Dave. Is there a diagram for non Io’s, primes, etc? I have
a distant memory that you have given one before? Guess I didn’t
manage to hang on to it.
John
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Saturday, November 30, 2024, 10:57 PM, Dave Typinski
<davetyp@...> wrote:
Hi John,
That portion was non-Io-B.
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Dave
On 11/30/24 19:40, AOL via groups.io wrote:
> Good evening:
>? ? ? ? ? Jupiter from early this morning. I am
uncertain what to label, so I
> called it Io. I am open to suggests for a more
appropriate label.
>
>? ? ? ? John
>
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Re: Io 11/30/2024 Easley, South Carolina
Thanks Dave. Is there a diagram for non Io’s, primes, etc? I have a distant memory that you have given one before? Guess I didn’t manage to hang on to it.
On Saturday, November 30, 2024, 10:57 PM, Dave Typinski <davetyp@...> wrote: Hi John, That portion was non-Io-B. -- Dave
On 11/30/24 19:40, AOL via groups.io wrote:
> Good evening:
>? ? ? ? ? Jupiter from early this morning. I am uncertain what to label, so I
> called it Io. I am open to suggests for a more appropriate label.
>
>? ? ? ? John
>
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Re: Antenna alternatives for more constrained space and no trees/ground access
Hi, I’m new to the group and just received my kit.? I also have no room for the dual dipole array but was aware of this when I placed the order.? A friend reached out to a local astronomy group looking for interested folks.? Hopefully we can all find a sight and collaborate on the setup. ??
I still want an option for home and have been experimenting with a home made shorter single dipole array.? If only tested it indoors so far and am sorting through the EMI sources, however I that the antenna picked up a sweeper signal a few times since I started testing it yesterday.
I did find a paper on an alternative that seems doable and plan on trying it next, as well as a custom dual-dipole I want to try to make and place on the a balcony facing west.? This is the link to the paper with materials for the antenna:
Tyson On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 4:13?PM Claudio Alberto Pérez Celeiro via <ecosanacion.interdimensional= [email protected]> wrote:
Daniel te da una opción que estaría bien.
También podrías hacer un Dipolo triple en el ático si éste es suficientemente grande.
Pero sería un Dipolo en forma de herradura.
Por otra parte, existe la opción de una vertical de 7 metros de largo, con un "sombrero capacitivo" en la punta? de unos 30 ctms de diámetro. Esto baja la estática cercana y te da proyección a más larga distancia en recepción.
Estoy también aquí si necesitas algo.
Claudio EA4AND
That sounds like a very limiting scenario indeed.?
Any chance you could put a dipole on the outside above your roof,
even if fairly low to the roof?? It would be further above ground
than recommended, but the chances are that you be getting some
reflections off the house somewhat similar to what you'd be
getting off the ground.
Which direction is your backyard from the house?? If it points
roughly south, a sloped dipole going from the roof of your house
to however high you can get it at the far end will be as good as a
dipole running east-west.? I like to model antennas with computer
software and can prove that with antenna plots if you want.
There is a pretty pricey alternative.? If you know of somebody
with room to spare, you could try a remote receiver using the new
networked receiver from SDRPlay.? It would set you back about $500
though.
Dave AB7E
?
On 11/30/2024 10:29 AM, Danielhandlin
via wrote:
Hello everyone:
I've been using some low-quality antennas to try to detect
Jupiter but I have not had success, so looking for other
ideas.?
My fundamental problem is I have no way to set up anything
remotely like the Radio Jove dipole I should be using. I
realize that's the "right answer", but I do not have anywhere
where I could physically place one.?
My problem is this. I live in a house, but I have a somewhat
annoying set of constraints:
1) My "back yard" is entirely concrete- no grass to ground
anything into
2) There are also some large power lines just outside the
backyard?
3) There are no trees I can tie anything to
Most everything I've read suggests I should make a dipole and
either ground it or tie it to a tree, and be far away from
power lines, so you see my dilemma. It may just not be
possible. The best idea I've come up with is to put a portable
dipole or EFHW in the attic, but I have not seen any reports
of detecting the decametric emissions with such a setup.
Has anyone had success with a more compact setup or one that
doesn't depends on grounds or a tree under conditions such as
these?
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Re: Io 11/30/2024 Easley, South Carolina
Hi John,
That portion was non-Io-B.
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Dave
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On 11/30/24 19:40, AOL via groups.io wrote: Good evening:
Jupiter from early this morning. I am uncertain what to label, so I
called it Io. I am open to suggests for a more appropriate label.
John
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Re: Antenna alternatives for more constrained space and no trees/ground access
I just discovered that the networked
unit apparently doesn't work with SDRuno ... only SDR Connect.
Dave?? AB7E
On 11/30/2024 11:34 AM, Dave AB7E via
groups.io wrote:
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There is a pretty pricey alternative.? If you know of somebody
with room to spare, you could try a remote receiver using the
new networked receiver from SDRPlay.? It would set you back
about $500 though.
Dave AB7E
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non IoA 11/30/2024 Easley, South Carolina
? ? ? ? ? I labeled this one non IoA for want of better. I remain open to naming suggestions.
? ? John?
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Io 11/30/2024 Easley, South Carolina
? ? ? ? ?Jupiter from early this morning. I am uncertain what to label, so I called it Io. I am open to suggests for a more appropriate label.?
? ? ? John
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30 Nov 2024 non-Io-B / non-Io-A
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Variante Dipolo cerrado. Menos interferencias.
Claudio Alberto Pérez Celeiro
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Re: Antena de gran ganancia Long wire, triple.
Claudio Alberto Pérez Celeiro
Antena de gran ancho de banda y como te han dicho, desde un punto de la casa a un mástil en el patio de no más de 2 metros de alto.
El dom, 1 dic 2024 0:36, Claudio Alberto Pérez Celeiro via <ecosanacion.interdimensional= [email protected]> escribió:
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Antena de gran ganancia Long wire, triple.
Claudio Alberto Pérez Celeiro
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Re: Antenna alternatives for more constrained space and no trees/ground access
Claudio Alberto Pérez Celeiro
Daniel te da una opción que estaría bien.
También podrías hacer un Dipolo triple en el ático si éste es suficientemente grande.
Pero sería un Dipolo en forma de herradura.
Por otra parte, existe la opción de una vertical de 7 metros de largo, con un "sombrero capacitivo" en la punta? de unos 30 ctms de diámetro. Esto baja la estática cercana y te da proyección a más larga distancia en recepción.
Estoy también aquí si necesitas algo.
Claudio EA4AND
That sounds like a very limiting scenario indeed.?
Any chance you could put a dipole on the outside above your roof,
even if fairly low to the roof?? It would be further above ground
than recommended, but the chances are that you be getting some
reflections off the house somewhat similar to what you'd be
getting off the ground.
Which direction is your backyard from the house?? If it points
roughly south, a sloped dipole going from the roof of your house
to however high you can get it at the far end will be as good as a
dipole running east-west.? I like to model antennas with computer
software and can prove that with antenna plots if you want.
There is a pretty pricey alternative.? If you know of somebody
with room to spare, you could try a remote receiver using the new
networked receiver from SDRPlay.? It would set you back about $500
though.
Dave AB7E
?
On 11/30/2024 10:29 AM, Danielhandlin
via wrote:
Hello everyone:
I've been using some low-quality antennas to try to detect
Jupiter but I have not had success, so looking for other
ideas.?
My fundamental problem is I have no way to set up anything
remotely like the Radio Jove dipole I should be using. I
realize that's the "right answer", but I do not have anywhere
where I could physically place one.?
My problem is this. I live in a house, but I have a somewhat
annoying set of constraints:
1) My "back yard" is entirely concrete- no grass to ground
anything into
2) There are also some large power lines just outside the
backyard?
3) There are no trees I can tie anything to
Most everything I've read suggests I should make a dipole and
either ground it or tie it to a tree, and be far away from
power lines, so you see my dilemma. It may just not be
possible. The best idea I've come up with is to put a portable
dipole or EFHW in the attic, but I have not seen any reports
of detecting the decametric emissions with such a setup.
Has anyone had success with a more compact setup or one that
doesn't depends on grounds or a tree under conditions such as
these?
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Re: Antenna alternatives for more constrained space and no trees/ground access
That sounds like a very limiting scenario indeed.?
Any chance you could put a dipole on the outside above your roof,
even if fairly low to the roof?? It would be further above ground
than recommended, but the chances are that you be getting some
reflections off the house somewhat similar to what you'd be
getting off the ground.
Which direction is your backyard from the house?? If it points
roughly south, a sloped dipole going from the roof of your house
to however high you can get it at the far end will be as good as a
dipole running east-west.? I like to model antennas with computer
software and can prove that with antenna plots if you want.
There is a pretty pricey alternative.? If you know of somebody
with room to spare, you could try a remote receiver using the new
networked receiver from SDRPlay.? It would set you back about $500
though.
Dave AB7E
?
On 11/30/2024 10:29 AM, Danielhandlin
via groups.io wrote:
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Show quoted text
Hello everyone:
I've been using some low-quality antennas to try to detect
Jupiter but I have not had success, so looking for other
ideas.?
My fundamental problem is I have no way to set up anything
remotely like the Radio Jove dipole I should be using. I
realize that's the "right answer", but I do not have anywhere
where I could physically place one.?
My problem is this. I live in a house, but I have a somewhat
annoying set of constraints:
1) My "back yard" is entirely concrete- no grass to ground
anything into
2) There are also some large power lines just outside the
backyard?
3) There are no trees I can tie anything to
Most everything I've read suggests I should make a dipole and
either ground it or tie it to a tree, and be far away from
power lines, so you see my dilemma. It may just not be
possible. The best idea I've come up with is to put a portable
dipole or EFHW in the attic, but I have not seen any reports
of detecting the decametric emissions with such a setup.
Has anyone had success with a more compact setup or one that
doesn't depends on grounds or a tree under conditions such as
these?
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Re: Audio of Jovian L-Bursts
Nice!
You should probably specify the audio bandwidth and
the RF frequency it was tuned to.
Dave?? AB7E
On 11/30/2024 9:00 AM, Thomas Ashcraft
via groups.io wrote:
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Help with identifying signal
Hi group,
?
It has been a while since I posted something. Been fighting RFI for the last couple of months. Not sure who on this group said fighting RFI is a job that takes a lot of time. Well, I agree absolutely.
?
Anyway I captured a signal I can't identify. Asked Sabine to take a look at it but she didn't received anything within that timeframe. Also nancay.fr showed no results. So we both agree it's not a Jupiter Event. As Sabine didn't receive anything I suppose it's local.
?
Still I'm curious so I hope someone in the group recognizes the signal to put my mind at rest :-)
?
Huub
Locator: JO21jn
Breda
The Netherlands
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Antenna alternatives for more constrained space and no trees/ground access
Hello everyone:
I've been using some low-quality antennas to try to detect Jupiter but I have not had success, so looking for other ideas.?
My fundamental problem is I have no way to set up anything remotely like the Radio Jove dipole I should be using. I realize that's the "right answer", but I do not have anywhere where I could physically place one.?
My problem is this. I live in a house, but I have a somewhat annoying set of constraints:
1) My "back yard" is entirely concrete- no grass to ground anything into
2) There are also some large power lines just outside the backyard?
3) There are no trees I can tie anything to
Most everything I've read suggests I should make a dipole and either ground it or tie it to a tree, and be far away from power lines, so you see my dilemma. It may just not be possible. The best idea I've come up with is to put a portable dipole or EFHW in the attic, but I have not seen any reports of detecting the decametric emissions with such a setup.
Has anyone had success with a more compact setup or one that doesn't depends on grounds or a tree under conditions such as these?
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Re: Jupiter's sounds of L and S bursts
Claudio Alberto Pérez Celeiro
Gracias Francisco.
Eso esta muy bien, para los que somos Radioastronomos de escucha... Jejeje
Claudio EA4AND
El sáb, 30 nov 2024 17:57, Francisco Reyes via <melipal41= [email protected]> escribió:
Claudio,
Here is a link to the Radio JOVE website with examples of Jupiter's sounds.
Francisco Reyes
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Jupiter's sounds of L and S bursts
Claudio,
Here is a link to the Radio JOVE website with examples of Jupiter's sounds.
Francisco Reyes
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Sabine Cremer
Dave Typinski
