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How to get Files from the old qrp-tech group
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Hi everyone, I mentioned that I was working on a solution for getting files from the old qrp-tech group, and I am glad to report that I was able to make progress so that anyone can have access to them. The owner of the original qrp-tech group has re-enabled registration for new users. If you are unable to view the files, simply register to become a member of the group, and your registration will allow you to see the files. They are located at: /g/qrp-tech/files Please add any new files to this group and go to the old group for pre-existing files. Is it a little bit of a hoop to jump through? Yes. Does it keep satisfy everyone's needs? I hope so. -- Ryan Flowers W7RLF https://miscdotgeek.com
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Group Introduction: If you're going to post on the group, reply here!
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Hello everyone, Thank you for joining this group! I am new to being an admin of a groups.io group, but not to groups in general. If you see something that needs to be changed, feel free to comment about it. I'm flexible! This isn't my group, it's your group. My goal is to keep the old qpr-tech group alive under this new name, and I hope that all 2500+ on the old group will join this one, but I know that's not realistic. If you all could put the word out that the group has moved, it'll help keep this going. Despite those saying that "homebrew is dying" and the like, groups like this prove that it's alive and well. let's keep it that way! Because of the way Groups.io is set up, I can either moderate peoples first post, or I can set it so that so that people have to be approved to join the group. qrp-tech was set to the former, and so I've set this group the same. Your first post will have to be moderated, but I'll approve it as soon as possible. I'm never far from a browser and it's easy to do. Thank you and 73! -- Ryan Flowers W7RLF https://miscdotgeek.com
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60 Meter homebrew rig IF frequencies
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I am thinking building a version of my single band single band 40 Meter SSB transceiver to work on 60 meters, but have to carefully choose an IF frequency. The current IF frequency for te 40 meter version of the rig is 12.288 MHz. Since it uses the Si5351 you have to be careful about the odd and even harmonics emitted. A. For an IF of 12288 kHz: 2x the LO will be 10400-10800 kHz 3x the LO will be 15600-16200 kHz. 4x the LO will be 28352-29152 Khz [10 meter ham band] 5x the LO will be 35440-36440 kHz Analysis (All frequencies in kHz): 1. If I design the transceiver to tune from 5200-5400 kHz, then the LO will be in the middle of the 40 meter ham band at 7088-7288 kHz [regrettable, but livable I suppose]. 2. 3rd order product (remixing, 3*LO-tx frequency) due to non exact impedance matching in the TX mixer: Low 15600-5200 = 10400 High: 16200-5400 = 10800. Looks good 3. Closeness of LO to band (for effective filtering) 7288-5400 = 1888. Hmmm. Mediocre. May require a higher order post mixer filter. B. For an IF of 9000 kHz: 2x the LO will be 7600 to 8000 kHz 3x the LO will be 11400-12000 kHz. 4x the LO will be 15200-16000 KHz 5x the LO will be 19000-20000 kHz Analysis (All frequencies in kHz): 1. If I design the transceiver to tune from 5200-5400 kHz, then the LO will be in the middle of the 80 meter ham band at 3800-4000 kHz [regrettable, but livable I suppose]. 2. 3rd order product (remixing, 3*LO-tx frequency) due to non exact impedance matching in the TX mixer: Low 11400-5200 = 6200 High: 12000-5400=6600 . Unacceptable, would require a very high order filter. 3. Closeness of LO to band (for effective filtering) 5400-4000 = 1400, Poor. May require a higher order post mixer filter. -- So the choice appears to be 12288 kHz for the IF, unless someone can suggest a better IF frequency with readily available crystals. If anyone has built a 60 meter SSB transceiver, I'd like to know what IF frequency you chose and why. Steve WA6ZFT
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RF Power Transistors
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I've recently been testing a 14Mc power amp circuit, comparing several output transistors for 5 watts (45 Vpp) into a measured 50 ohm dummy load. I put a scope probe on the output and adjust for 45 Vpp with bench power supply set to 12.8 volts. I've found that a good transistor will give 5 watts out at that frequency at 12.8 volts. My reference has been a genuine 2SC5739. I adjust the input power from the function generator to give 45 Vpp output with the reference, then substitute other transistors to see how they compare. For instance the 2SC2078 is a popular transistor used in many CB radios as the final transistor. I have several genuine 2078s as pulls from old CBs (all over 10 years old) found in thrift shops. Most of them have a blown output transistor, but the few that are good I save the transistors. A good 2078 will give 46 Vpp or sometimes a little more output compared to the reference 5739. If you look on eBay there are literally hundreds of sellers of the 2078--the majority of them from China. I found a US seller offering 10 of them for a reasonable price and bought them to test. Every single one was a fake counterfeit with 30-35 Vpp output at 14Mc! When I complained, I was given a full refund. Someone sent me two 2078s to test, bought from a reputable US seller that most of us have bought from. Both of these too were fake counterfeits with 30-35 Vpp output. My last purchase of 2078s was from another US seller on eBay--his ad shows testing them on a Peak meter--he tests them for beta (gain) at the low currents any of these test meters can only test at. I corresponded with the seller, saying such a test at such low currents didn't tell much, that a real test would be for output power. He responded that he could only test the way he was showing but that previous purchasers seemed to be happy with these 2078s. I bought 5 of them to test--they finally arrived today, after 12 days! He's in Las Vegas, only a day or two mail time from me in Arizona, so for unknown reasons he appears to be very slow in shipping. I immediately tested all 5 and I'm very happy to report they all passed--3 gave 46 Vpp output, the other two 45.7 and 45.6 Vpp--exceeding the reference 5739 set for 45 Vpp. So these are the first Chinese 2SC2078s I can recommend, if you're looking for a decent RF power transistor. https://www.ebay.com/itm/286038719772 is the item and seller. Again note that you'll probably wait quite awhile to get these. (Email me privately if you want to know who the other seller of the fake ones is that I tested, I don't want to give his name out publicly since I've bought many things from him over the years and this is the first time I've seen fake counterfeit parts from him. Hopefully this particular part is the only fake part he's selling--listed as 2SC2078.) 73, Steve AA7U
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Benchtop DMM Recommendation
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Yesterday I managed to blow out the front end of my Sigalent SDM3045X benchtop DMM. Sending it in for repair will cost almost as much as a new one and the schematic is proprietary so repairing it myself is difficult. I opened it up and found two MOVs and two GDT devices on the input but they all tested open. There was no sign of physical damage to any of the components. So I think it is history. Since I obviously don't know how to treat a $400 DMM I'm thinking I should look for something in the $100 to $150 range. The OWON XMD1041 at $129 looks nice and has good reviews on Amazon. I also like the East Tester ET3240 but reviews aren't so great for it. If you have experience with OWON products or have a benchtop DMM you are happy with please let me know. 73 - Jerry - W0PWE
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RF Power Transistors--CORRECTION to sch
There is a correction to the schematic! I left out the negative feedback resistor and cap on Q1. Corrected schematic here along with same picture of the test fixture from before (which has the feedback). If you saved the previous schematic, throw it away and save this one! Steve AA7U
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PSSST-20 kit for sale
Hey everyone, I don't think I'm going to get around to building it. I was very excited about scratch building a PSSST-20 and the kit is awesome, but time constraints are causing me to be more realistic. I have a half built QMX+ on the bench that needs attention. Asking $120 shipped to the CONUS only. If anybody is interested in a Kenwood TS-140s that mostly works but needs maintenance or something, I have one of those I want to get rid of, too. Cheap. -- Ryan Flowers - W7RLF https://MiscDotGeek.com W7RLF Prototyping Boards MiscDotGeek YouTube Channel
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Charles Kitchen, N1TEV SK
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Gang, I first discovered Charles Kitchen when I started looking for regenerative receiver circuits many years ago. A few days ago I watched this very informative youtube video in which Mike Murphy WB2UID talked about the character of Charles "Chuck" Kitchen, N1TEV and his regenerative receiver circuits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA_NZVLQK3A Mike did a great job talking about his friend and co-worker's circuit design techniques. 73, Alan, N8WQ
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Fun With BJT (Bipolar Junction Transistors) For Biz Admin Majors
Folks, Chuck mentioned scoring a bag of 2N3904s and I similarly discovered a mess o' 2N4401s. Suspecting that there may be caches of the popular NPNs (and their matching PNPs) around, here's a sample of a series of YouTube videos for those of us who want to monkey around and perhaps learn a bit. Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Emitter Circuit https://youtu.be/unkBcz1-nLo?feature=shared Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Collector Circuit https://youtu.be/WZcCYgiGdd8?feature=shared Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Base Circuit https://youtu.be/zBBuKWwjKq0?feature=shared The three above are selected from a playlist done for Bipolar Junction Transistors. The entire playlist are of this quality and are comprised of 15 videos. And those 15 are part of an extensive series by Ralph Gable -- a retired electronics engineer -- who has put a lot of effort into a great number of videos he titles "Electronics for the Inquisitive Experimenter" including basic electronics to construction practices, and design theory. I first stumbled on Ralph's efforts when re-learning the ins and outs of my NanoVNA and then to tinkering with filters. His method of teaching is thorough, precise, and aimed at the beginner (the ersatz Biz Admin graduate) and many come with accompanying documentation a la W2AEW's videos. I highly recommend them as a great source of learning and study. -- William, k6whp -------------------- "Cheer up, things could get worse. So I cheered up and things got worse."
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Schematics for 10 watt 40 Meter Transceiver
Here are the schematics for all of the boards for the 10 Watt SSB transceiver discussed previously. /g/qrptech/files/WA6ZFT%2010%20Watt%2040%20Meter%20SSB%20TRANSCEIVER Steve WA6ZFT
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New single band superheterodyne transceiver
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Here's my latest rig (see pic below). It is a 10 Watt PEP single conversion transceiver using 6 printed circuit boards in a copper clad PCB enclosure. I've been having a lot of fun talking to my friends on 40 meters with this rig. The boards are as follows: 1. VFO board. (purple, front) This uses a raspberry pi pico. The pico has a really inexpensive debug probe you can get for $15. Debuggers make it really easy to find problems with your code. The board has an Si5351 and a 26 MHz 0.5ppm TCXO reference oscillator. I used Platformio IDE to develop the C++ code for this rig. I chose the Arduino framework in Platformio. 2. TX amp and filter board (left wall of enclosure). This board takes the output of the product detector (though a high pass filter) and amplifies it by 40dB. It has 2 stages.: a 2N3904 followed by a 2SC3357. It then filters the output with a triple-tuned bandpass filter for 40 meters. The purpose of the triple tuned bandpass filter is to filter out any spurs from the mixer before they get to the predriver and final amplifier. I thought about relay switching this band pass filter with one used in the front end board, but that would have over-complicated things and maybe introduced some paths to cause oscillation. I wanted to avoid bi-directional amplifiers as I wanted the rig to have AGC. 3. Predriver and final amplifier board (red, rear). This board takes the -9dBm output from the TX amp and filter board and amplifies it to +40dBm (10 Watts PEP). It has 2 stages. A pair of 2SC5706's followed by a pair of RD06HHF1's. If you push it you can get 12 watts PEP out of it, but I don't like running things at their limits. There is only one relay in this rig and it is on this board. The nice thing about push-pull amplifiers is that they attenuate the second harmonic significantly. The 5th order low pass filter on this board is good enough to attenuate all harmonics below the -43dBm limit. 4. Front end and crystal filter. (Green board closest to the rear and close to the pre-driver and final amplifier board). This board has a triple tuned bandpass filter before the mixer and also injects transmit audio into the mixer (which serves as the balanced modulator) during transmit. The output of the mixer is amplified using a 2SC3357 and then put through a 6dB pad before being presented to the 6 pole crystal filter. The crystal filter uses 12.288 MHz crystals. One thing to note about the 2SC3357: You can run it with 40mA of quiescent current, but you need to keep the the Vce below 12 volt absolute maximum in the datasheet. I power all the 2SC3357's in this rig with a switched 9 volt regulated supply. 5. Hycas IF amplifier board with AGC. (Green board closest to the right side of the enclosure). This is a variant of the Hycas IF amplifier featured in QST: https://www.ka7exm.net/hycas/hycas_200712_qst.pdf with some switching modifications to allow adjustable gain on transmit. 6. Product Detector/TX mixer/Audio Amplifier board. (Green board closest to the left front mounted on the bottom of the enclosure). This board contains a mixer, an NE5534 op-amp, and an LM380 audio amplifier.
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SolderSmoke DC Receiver Challenge
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Gang, I accepted the Soldersmoke DC Receiver Challenge on April 19th. Here is my 3 stage audio amplifier I finished this morning. Please join in on the fun! 73, Alan, N8WQ
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f_T fixture and cheap transistors [long]
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Gang, 1. First of all you are going to need something like the following RF probe to measure the output of the f_T tester we have been discussing in previous posts. There are a lot of RF probes that use the one diode, a 4.7M resistor and .... For this project I wanted more sensitivity. RF probe <https://tinyurl.com/yh2estzc> The reason for this is that I find that with the Rigol scope there is some jitter on the max values of the output from the CAL and OUTPUT. I am going to use the probe and an analog VTVM, B+K Model 177 VTVM, for a more steady reading. This meter I found at a swapmeet for $20 USD and I refurbished to like new. Big meter. 2. You will need the f_T fixture found at f_T fixture <https://techlib.com/newprojects.htm> Copyright by Charles Wenzel. No call sign that I see. This will now allow you to check all your transistor stock, old and new (see below), and document your builds. Call it f_T#1 by CW for your measurements using the original unmodified version. Now make your measurements according to the instructions in the schematic. V_in=1.0V_pk or 0.707V_RMS. Whatever voltage you get a CAL, and it may not be 100mV, make that the voltage out, V_OUT, to increase f_input to match. Then multiply the f_in by 20 to get f_T. Easy as pie. They just need to match. The value is not critical. 3. [Advanced] Now, Steve, AA7U, and I have mods to the fixture. Simple. Change the 150ohm resistor from V_cc to the 1K and 82ohm node to a variable resistor. I used a 2K and Steve uses a 500 ohm variable. The 500 will work better, but I didn't have one. Use this variable to adjust the bias to get 10mA through the 100ohm emitter resistor for the transistor you are testing. Since Steve and I are doing measurements for the V_ce in the spec sheet, we have a variable lab supply for the 5V source and we vary it to get the V_ce in the datasheet and adjust the variable R to get 10mA. You measure V_c, the collector voltage to ground, subtract 1.0V to get V_ce. This is going to be like adjusting a regen receiver. Also, use a SPDT switch and just switch V_CAL and V_OUT to your voltage measurement scope or meter so you won't be moving leads back and forth. Idea from Steve, AA7U. Speeds things up. 4. Cheap transistors. <https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805183310544.html> I have the 1,000 2N3904 NPN transistors received yesterday. Using the f_T#1 configuration, so that you can compare your 2N3904s to these, here is what I get. The cost was $14.64 USD from the site. He has about 50,000,000 left, so rush and get yours before they run out. There are some other transistors there and 1,000x2N7000 JFETs for $23.89+$7.94S&H. Now I did the following measurements as a first pass test to determine how critical the V_ce voltage is to the resulting f_T. It does matter. Also, I'm using the Rigol scope, so mileage may vary until I can get round to it using the diode probe and eliminate the small jitter. V_cc replaces the 5V supply in the schematic. V_c is voltage from the collector of the DUT to ground. V_ce is 1.0V subtracted from V_c, since there is a 1.0V drop across the 100 ohm emitter resistor due to 10.0mA current through it. V_cc I_C V_c V_ce f_T 5.25V 10.0mA 1.58V 0.58V ---- couldn't get a match V_OUT too low 9.00V 10.0mA 5.42V 4.42V 104MHz 12.0V 10.0mA 8.44V 7.44V 142MHz 23.6V 10.0mA 21.00V 20.0V 176MHz h_FE=331 as measured on the Chinese Critter Checker h_FE between 100 min and 300 max on Philips Semiconductor datasheet at I_C=10.0mA. Don't know what the emitter current is in the tester, not sure it's a valid comparison. f_T is shown to be 300MHz minimum in the datasheet. Because the h_FE=331 value, I'd expect the f_T value to be lower, but by how much is a guess. At f_T=176MHz, the transistors should be good enough for up to 0.1*f_T or so, but that is to be determined. For smaller quantities and better quality, you may want to shop around. I'm just pointing out how cheap these things were and I have a large number of projects to experiment using them in. It would be a waste to not use them up. They came in 12 days from the order date. These are
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Digi-key
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Nice piece this morning on NPR regarding Digi-Key. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/24/nx-s1-5332209/digikey-tariff-small-minnesota-town-big-company I didn't know it was started by a ham (AE5E) Jerry KI4IO Warrenton, VA
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Earliest example of Manhattan construction?
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Looking through my library, this is the earliest example of using PCB pads glued to a board for construction. Is it the earliest you have seen? September 1979 QST (back when there were construction articles) "Quick and Easy Circuit Boards for the Beginner" by Doug DeMaw, W1FB <sk>. Page 30-34 of the "QRP Classics" book by the ARRL dated 1990. FYI -- chuck adams, aa7fo QRP WAS 17m started Apr 2, 2025 WAS-17 QRP --> TX,FL,SC,GA,OK,AR,KS,AL,AZ,MN PA,CA,CO,WI,NE,ID,IL,NC DXCC W,VE,JA,PY
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LT Spice Alternatives
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Not a direct answer to your question, but ... yes, LTspice can be tough but probably no more than any other true SPICE package. I've presenting an introductory talk on the subject at FDIM. I'm not a super "power user" though. If you have an .asc file that's giving you problems, you can email it to me (include any models not part of the program) and I'll see if I can figure it out. Sometimes a second set of eyes can find a problem. 73 Nick, WA5BDU
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QRPBuilder at FDIM
Gang, The QRPBuilder magnetically attached Iambic and Single lever Paddles are now back in stock. Also, this will be our fifth year at the Dayton FDIM vendor night on Thursday May 15, with all our products available. We hope to see you there. 73, Ken - WA4MNT Karen - KF4EEL qrpbuilder.com
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cheap aliexpress LC100a = $13 paperweight?
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I bought a no name LC100a on aliexpress figuring it was worth the risk as they offered free returns. Unless I am really missing something, it looks like I will be taking them up on the free return. I understand my testing method is awful. 5% caps using one cheap device to compare to another cheap device should make most cringe but the Kaiweets meter is usually good. Those are 330pf caps. I have some 1% ones I should dig out but at this point I doubt it will matter. I did run and save all the self calibration routines several times. This is my fault for expecting anything better for $13 from a seller called Pure Pure Grocery Store but sometimes it is fun to roll the dice. Fun fact, the price is already up $5 from 2 weeks ago. Does anyone with one of these devices know of a trick I might be missing or as I suspect is this just more garbage made with floor sweepings?
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Mighty Mike Transmitter
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I've begun building this transmitter (Manhattan style) but cannot get the oscillator to oscillate. Has anyone built this before? I also put the oscillator into LTSpice and did not see oscillation. Does anyone know if this will work?
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L/C Meter Test
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Steve R. sent me some mica caps rated at +-1% for use as pseudo-standard for capacitance checks. Thanks Steve. I'm sending him some transistors for his effort. Here is a comparison between his measurements using a DE-5000, which seems to be popular and mine arrives tomorrow, and a W8BH L/C meter made from a kit and a LC200A which I bought years ago on ebay when they were cheaper. I gave up my AADE to a charter school. The 5pF was marked +-0.5pF and not a 1% precision one. FYI MICA CAP DE-5000 W8BN L/C meter LC200A 5pF 5.2 4.381 4.51 62pF 62.7 62.20 62.59 160pF 161.2 158.8 159.8 592pF 589.2 578.2 588.5 1000pF 997.1 1028 1010 1300pF 1303.1 1289 1309 I can do a video doing the measurements when I get my DE-5000, but I'm too busy hanging wall paper now. :-) My $400 USD budget for rebuilding the lab is not at an end. Let's hope that I don't have to do a go fund me account to get more. :-) I get a brand new metal brake today for doing the K7QO enclosure procedure for projects. Life is good. ciao, -- chuck adams, aa7fo QRP WAS 17m started Apr 2, 2025 WAS-17 QRP --> TX,FL,SC,GA,OK,AR,KS,AL,AZ,MN PA,CA,CO,WI,NE,ID,IL,NC,NY,AL MA DXCC W,VE,JA,PY,ZL
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