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How to get Files from the old qrp-tech group
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Hi everyone, I mentioned that I was working on a solution for getting files from the old qrp-tech group, and I am glad to report that I was able to make progress so that anyone can have access to them. The owner of the original qrp-tech group has re-enabled registration for new users. If you are unable to view the files, simply register to become a member of the group, and your registration will allow you to see the files. They are located at: /g/qrp-tech/files Please add any new files to this group and go to the old group for pre-existing files. Is it a little bit of a hoop to jump through? Yes. Does it keep satisfy everyone's needs? I hope so. -- Ryan Flowers W7RLF https://miscdotgeek.com
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Group Introduction: If you're going to post on the group, reply here!
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Hello everyone, Thank you for joining this group! I am new to being an admin of a groups.io group, but not to groups in general. If you see something that needs to be changed, feel free to comment about it. I'm flexible! This isn't my group, it's your group. My goal is to keep the old qpr-tech group alive under this new name, and I hope that all 2500+ on the old group will join this one, but I know that's not realistic. If you all could put the word out that the group has moved, it'll help keep this going. Despite those saying that "homebrew is dying" and the like, groups like this prove that it's alive and well. let's keep it that way! Because of the way Groups.io is set up, I can either moderate peoples first post, or I can set it so that so that people have to be approved to join the group. qrp-tech was set to the former, and so I've set this group the same. Your first post will have to be moderated, but I'll approve it as soon as possible. I'm never far from a browser and it's easy to do. Thank you and 73! -- Ryan Flowers W7RLF https://miscdotgeek.com
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ADC Project Status, Fake Parts, Varactor Diodes and then Chinese Critter Checker[long]
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Delayed in getting to build second ADC xcvr prototype because a package of J310s has gone across the country and back for more than a week and having trouble getting to me. Hopefully by Monday. Then I'll build the second prototype to finish the complete manual and finalize the board layout. Speaking of boards. What is going to be the economics now of getting PCBWay or other boards from China? Inquiring minds want to know. Start a new topic heading on the subject, please. <https://www.ebay.com/itm/205033339282> is what I call the Chinese Critter Checker. This one from NJ distributor. Today's price is $16.49 with case and free shipping. If a number of you rush to get one, then we'll see if price gouging kicks in. And the blame goes to tariffing. This critter saved me yesterday. I'd been getting parts via Eliexpress with a 100% success rate until yesterday when I got a batch of 'BF245B' JFETs. Turns out to be plain NPN BJTs. The CCC caught it and I then went and found a simple test <https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/semiconductors/chpt-5/meter-check-transistor-jfet/> also confirmed the package as fakes. Since they are BJTs, I'll run them through the f_T tests to see if they are useable as just plain transistors at RF. Otherwise, I'll test them for audio amp use. Good news. Got immediate refund and the vendor disappeared from any listings. Looks like they, Aliexpress, run a tight ship. IMHO. YMMV. I asked DeepSeek why the significant price differential for BJT and JFETs and it gave me a very detailed explanation. Just gotta love AI. OK. Back to the bench. 17m hasn't been the greatest the last few days. Someone mentioned QRP on 160m. In my entire life I have never worked a single station on 80m, much less 160m, using QRP power. Thus, no one ever on 80m. Even when I had a 40m vee beam at Prescott AZ. Some magic must be involved, even when the band is open. NN1G had a cute little 80m transceiver in QRP Quarterly that I wanted to try, but never got around to it. I think Doug, KI6DS, started the question of VFO frequency change using a 1N4004 or varactor diodes. I did a series of measurements in the K7QO/AA7FO QRP Lab Notebook <https://www.aa7fo.com/lab.pdf> (404 pages and growing) on pages 233-248 on varactor diode measurements. Will add various other diodes when I get another fixture built for the LC-200A. FYI, -- chuck adams, aa7fo QRP WAS 17m started Apr 2, 2025 WAS-17 QRP --> TX,FL,SC,GA,OK,AR,KS,AL,AZ,MN PA,CA,CO,WI,NE,ID,IL,NC,NY,WV MA,OH,OR,RI,MT,WY,WA DXCC W,VE,JA,PY,ZL
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NC40A ON 160
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Good morning, all. I'm thinking about a 160M build using one of my leftover NC40A boards. I actually only need the receive side but with a bit more work can eventually get a complete transceiver. For now, I could build and test the receiver first, leaving the TX circuitry unpopulated. The mute circuit is critical as it would coexist with my QRO rig on 160 using just a LoG RX antenna. My keyer can output a PTT signal to control it. I'd need a common xtal frequency and a practical VFO tuning range to make this operable in the CW portion of the band. Has anyone tried it? Howard, n3fel
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QRP TX LPF illustration (30M built)
Also if you notice I widened the sweep this time to include the 4th harmonic which shows up about the same level as the 2nd harmonic. I imagine the other filters show the same for the 4th harmonic. (Filter sweep included again.) Steve
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QRP TX LPF illustration (30M built)
I built the 30M W5USJ LPF from the chart, next. You'll notice on the chart that the input and output impedances for this filter are close to 50 ohms with little differences. My tests showed the same--45 Vpp (5W) output either way. That indicates if one can design the trap filter for close to 50 ohms, then the filter is indeed symmetrical. Too bad Chuck Carpenter is not still around so we could ask him if he noticed the impedances were the same for this filter and not as close to 50 ohms for the others. 73, Steve AA7U
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QRP TX LPF illustration
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We're all aware of the current FCC regs for harmonics and spurious outputs from a transmitter needing to be -43 dBc or greater below the fundamental output. Here's a 40 M LPF with the original response of the filter when the current -43 dBc wasn't in effect vs. with adding the trap capacitors across the two inductors, showing how the filter easily surpasses -43 dBc--quite a dramatic difference. (I used a 40 dB tap for these pictures.) 73, Steve AA7U
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1W and 5W build guides
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Forgot. Old links at kitsandparts.com are for the old call. Here are the new links. <https://www.aa7fo.com/5w.pdf> <https://www.aa7fo.com/1w-108.pdf> <https://www.aa7fo.com/onewatter.html> and I found the old YouTuve videos, if a number of you think that I need to put them back up. I can do a new video, after I get the second version of the ADC project done. Waiting on some parts from an interested party. USPS is being stubborn. We need to get a 1W QSO party going, especially for the high bands during the peak for the last cycle some of us will ever see again. Let me know. dit dit -- chuck adams, aa7fo QRP WAS 17m started Apr 2, 2025 WAS-17 QRP --> TX,FL,SC,GA,OK,AR,KS,AL,AZ,MN PA,CA,CO,WI,NE,ID,IL,NC,NY,WV MA,OH,OR,RI,MT,WY,WA DXCC W,VE,JA,PY,ZL
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How good is the 1N4004 diode as a varactor
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What is your experience with using the 1N4004 diode as a varactor in tuning circuits? How does it compare to the MV209? In the same circuit, what is the comparison between the 2 diodes in tuning range?
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60 Meter homebrew rig IF frequencies
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I am thinking building a version of my single band single band 40 Meter SSB transceiver to work on 60 meters, but have to carefully choose an IF frequency. The current IF frequency for te 40 meter version of the rig is 12.288 MHz. Since it uses the Si5351 you have to be careful about the odd and even harmonics emitted. A. For an IF of 12288 kHz: 2x the LO will be 10400-10800 kHz 3x the LO will be 15600-16200 kHz. 4x the LO will be 28352-29152 Khz [10 meter ham band] 5x the LO will be 35440-36440 kHz Analysis (All frequencies in kHz): 1. If I design the transceiver to tune from 5200-5400 kHz, then the LO will be in the middle of the 40 meter ham band at 7088-7288 kHz [regrettable, but livable I suppose]. 2. 3rd order product (remixing, 3*LO-tx frequency) due to non exact impedance matching in the TX mixer: Low 15600-5200 = 10400 High: 16200-5400 = 10800. Looks good 3. Closeness of LO to band (for effective filtering) 7288-5400 = 1888. Hmmm. Mediocre. May require a higher order post mixer filter. B. For an IF of 9000 kHz: 2x the LO will be 7600 to 8000 kHz 3x the LO will be 11400-12000 kHz. 4x the LO will be 15200-16000 KHz 5x the LO will be 19000-20000 kHz Analysis (All frequencies in kHz): 1. If I design the transceiver to tune from 5200-5400 kHz, then the LO will be in the middle of the 80 meter ham band at 3800-4000 kHz [regrettable, but livable I suppose]. 2. 3rd order product (remixing, 3*LO-tx frequency) due to non exact impedance matching in the TX mixer: Low 11400-5200 = 6200 High: 12000-5400=6600 . Unacceptable, would require a very high order filter. 3. Closeness of LO to band (for effective filtering) 5400-4000 = 1400, Poor. May require a higher order post mixer filter. -- So the choice appears to be 12288 kHz for the IF, unless someone can suggest a better IF frequency with readily available crystals. If anyone has built a 60 meter SSB transceiver, I'd like to know what IF frequency you chose and why. Steve WA6ZFT
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Final PA Transistor
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Here is one used in the 1W and 5W xcvr of KitsAndParts designed by Diz, W8DIZ<sk>. I bought a 100 and tried them in a 20m 5W and a 12m 1W and got the exact same output as non-fake parts. Go look at the manuals at KitsAndParts.com in the retired kits section to see how they are used in the final PA section. These things will take a beating and keep on ticking. Heat sink recommended and look at the manual to see how to attach using a screw and nut and you don't have to drill holes if you used the horse shoe shaped heatsink. <https://www.ebay.com/itm/123382968697> Mike has some boards available and the toroids you need to build one up, if you happened to miss the run of a 1,000 kits. How many of you are using them? That's what I thought. :-) I have one more to build from an unbuilt kit that I found in a drawer. FYI, -- chuck adams, aa7fo QRP WAS 17m started Apr 2, 2025 WAS-17 QRP --> TX,FL,SC,GA,OK,AR,KS,AL,AZ,MN PA,CA,CO,WI,NE,ID,IL,NC,NY,WV MA,OH,OR,RI,MT,WY,WA DXCC W,VE,JA,PY,ZL
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RF Power Transistors
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I've recently been testing a 14Mc power amp circuit, comparing several output transistors for 5 watts (45 Vpp) into a measured 50 ohm dummy load. I put a scope probe on the output and adjust for 45 Vpp with bench power supply set to 12.8 volts. I've found that a good transistor will give 5 watts out at that frequency at 12.8 volts. My reference has been a genuine 2SC5739. I adjust the input power from the function generator to give 45 Vpp output with the reference, then substitute other transistors to see how they compare. For instance the 2SC2078 is a popular transistor used in many CB radios as the final transistor. I have several genuine 2078s as pulls from old CBs (all over 10 years old) found in thrift shops. Most of them have a blown output transistor, but the few that are good I save the transistors. A good 2078 will give 46 Vpp or sometimes a little more output compared to the reference 5739. If you look on eBay there are literally hundreds of sellers of the 2078--the majority of them from China. I found a US seller offering 10 of them for a reasonable price and bought them to test. Every single one was a fake counterfeit with 30-35 Vpp output at 14Mc! When I complained, I was given a full refund. Someone sent me two 2078s to test, bought from a reputable US seller that most of us have bought from. Both of these too were fake counterfeits with 30-35 Vpp output. My last purchase of 2078s was from another US seller on eBay--his ad shows testing them on a Peak meter--he tests them for beta (gain) at the low currents any of these test meters can only test at. I corresponded with the seller, saying such a test at such low currents didn't tell much, that a real test would be for output power. He responded that he could only test the way he was showing but that previous purchasers seemed to be happy with these 2078s. I bought 5 of them to test--they finally arrived today, after 12 days! He's in Las Vegas, only a day or two mail time from me in Arizona, so for unknown reasons he appears to be very slow in shipping. I immediately tested all 5 and I'm very happy to report they all passed--3 gave 46 Vpp output, the other two 45.7 and 45.6 Vpp--exceeding the reference 5739 set for 45 Vpp. So these are the first Chinese 2SC2078s I can recommend, if you're looking for a decent RF power transistor. https://www.ebay.com/itm/286038719772 is the item and seller. Again note that you'll probably wait quite awhile to get these. (Email me privately if you want to know who the other seller of the fake ones is that I tested, I don't want to give his name out publicly since I've bought many things from him over the years and this is the first time I've seen fake counterfeit parts from him. Hopefully this particular part is the only fake part he's selling--listed as 2SC2078.) 73, Steve AA7U
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Benchtop DMM Recommendation
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Yesterday I managed to blow out the front end of my Sigalent SDM3045X benchtop DMM. Sending it in for repair will cost almost as much as a new one and the schematic is proprietary so repairing it myself is difficult. I opened it up and found two MOVs and two GDT devices on the input but they all tested open. There was no sign of physical damage to any of the components. So I think it is history. Since I obviously don't know how to treat a $400 DMM I'm thinking I should look for something in the $100 to $150 range. The OWON XMD1041 at $129 looks nice and has good reviews on Amazon. I also like the East Tester ET3240 but reviews aren't so great for it. If you have experience with OWON products or have a benchtop DMM you are happy with please let me know. 73 - Jerry - W0PWE
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RF Power Transistors--CORRECTION to sch
There is a correction to the schematic! I left out the negative feedback resistor and cap on Q1. Corrected schematic here along with same picture of the test fixture from before (which has the feedback). If you saved the previous schematic, throw it away and save this one! Steve AA7U
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PSSST-20 kit for sale
Hey everyone, I don't think I'm going to get around to building it. I was very excited about scratch building a PSSST-20 and the kit is awesome, but time constraints are causing me to be more realistic. I have a half built QMX+ on the bench that needs attention. Asking $120 shipped to the CONUS only. If anybody is interested in a Kenwood TS-140s that mostly works but needs maintenance or something, I have one of those I want to get rid of, too. Cheap. -- Ryan Flowers - W7RLF https://MiscDotGeek.com W7RLF Prototyping Boards MiscDotGeek YouTube Channel
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Charles Kitchen, N1TEV SK
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Gang, I first discovered Charles Kitchen when I started looking for regenerative receiver circuits many years ago. A few days ago I watched this very informative youtube video in which Mike Murphy WB2UID talked about the character of Charles "Chuck" Kitchen, N1TEV and his regenerative receiver circuits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA_NZVLQK3A Mike did a great job talking about his friend and co-worker's circuit design techniques. 73, Alan, N8WQ
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Fun With BJT (Bipolar Junction Transistors) For Biz Admin Majors
Folks, Chuck mentioned scoring a bag of 2N3904s and I similarly discovered a mess o' 2N4401s. Suspecting that there may be caches of the popular NPNs (and their matching PNPs) around, here's a sample of a series of YouTube videos for those of us who want to monkey around and perhaps learn a bit. Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Emitter Circuit https://youtu.be/unkBcz1-nLo?feature=shared Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Collector Circuit https://youtu.be/WZcCYgiGdd8?feature=shared Basic Bipolar Junction Transistor Analysis: The Common-Base Circuit https://youtu.be/zBBuKWwjKq0?feature=shared The three above are selected from a playlist done for Bipolar Junction Transistors. The entire playlist are of this quality and are comprised of 15 videos. And those 15 are part of an extensive series by Ralph Gable -- a retired electronics engineer -- who has put a lot of effort into a great number of videos he titles "Electronics for the Inquisitive Experimenter" including basic electronics to construction practices, and design theory. I first stumbled on Ralph's efforts when re-learning the ins and outs of my NanoVNA and then to tinkering with filters. His method of teaching is thorough, precise, and aimed at the beginner (the ersatz Biz Admin graduate) and many come with accompanying documentation a la W2AEW's videos. I highly recommend them as a great source of learning and study. -- William, k6whp -------------------- "Cheer up, things could get worse. So I cheered up and things got worse."
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Schematics for 10 watt 40 Meter Transceiver
Here are the schematics for all of the boards for the 10 Watt SSB transceiver discussed previously. /g/qrptech/files/WA6ZFT%2010%20Watt%2040%20Meter%20SSB%20TRANSCEIVER Steve WA6ZFT
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New single band superheterodyne transceiver
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Here's my latest rig (see pic below). It is a 10 Watt PEP single conversion transceiver using 6 printed circuit boards in a copper clad PCB enclosure. I've been having a lot of fun talking to my friends on 40 meters with this rig. The boards are as follows: 1. VFO board. (purple, front) This uses a raspberry pi pico. The pico has a really inexpensive debug probe you can get for $15. Debuggers make it really easy to find problems with your code. The board has an Si5351 and a 26 MHz 0.5ppm TCXO reference oscillator. I used Platformio IDE to develop the C++ code for this rig. I chose the Arduino framework in Platformio. 2. TX amp and filter board (left wall of enclosure). This board takes the output of the product detector (though a high pass filter) and amplifies it by 40dB. It has 2 stages.: a 2N3904 followed by a 2SC3357. It then filters the output with a triple-tuned bandpass filter for 40 meters. The purpose of the triple tuned bandpass filter is to filter out any spurs from the mixer before they get to the predriver and final amplifier. I thought about relay switching this band pass filter with one used in the front end board, but that would have over-complicated things and maybe introduced some paths to cause oscillation. I wanted to avoid bi-directional amplifiers as I wanted the rig to have AGC. 3. Predriver and final amplifier board (red, rear). This board takes the -9dBm output from the TX amp and filter board and amplifies it to +40dBm (10 Watts PEP). It has 2 stages. A pair of 2SC5706's followed by a pair of RD06HHF1's. If you push it you can get 12 watts PEP out of it, but I don't like running things at their limits. There is only one relay in this rig and it is on this board. The nice thing about push-pull amplifiers is that they attenuate the second harmonic significantly. The 5th order low pass filter on this board is good enough to attenuate all harmonics below the -43dBm limit. 4. Front end and crystal filter. (Green board closest to the rear and close to the pre-driver and final amplifier board). This board has a triple tuned bandpass filter before the mixer and also injects transmit audio into the mixer (which serves as the balanced modulator) during transmit. The output of the mixer is amplified using a 2SC3357 and then put through a 6dB pad before being presented to the 6 pole crystal filter. The crystal filter uses 12.288 MHz crystals. One thing to note about the 2SC3357: You can run it with 40mA of quiescent current, but you need to keep the the Vce below 12 volt absolute maximum in the datasheet. I power all the 2SC3357's in this rig with a switched 9 volt regulated supply. 5. Hycas IF amplifier board with AGC. (Green board closest to the right side of the enclosure). This is a variant of the Hycas IF amplifier featured in QST: https://www.ka7exm.net/hycas/hycas_200712_qst.pdf with some switching modifications to allow adjustable gain on transmit. 6. Product Detector/TX mixer/Audio Amplifier board. (Green board closest to the left front mounted on the bottom of the enclosure). This board contains a mixer, an NE5534 op-amp, and an LM380 audio amplifier.
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SolderSmoke DC Receiver Challenge
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Gang, I accepted the Soldersmoke DC Receiver Challenge on April 19th. Here is my 3 stage audio amplifier I finished this morning. Please join in on the fun! 73, Alan, N8WQ
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