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S9 generator


 

I did the math.? Fundamental amplitude for a square wave is 4*A/pi, where A is the square
wave amplitude.? For A=3.3V, then fundamental is 4*3.3/pi ~= 4.2V.? Just attenuate to
0.5uV and let the receiver remove all the harmonics.? I think this will work and we
won't have to switch between filters in the generator.? Someone do the experiment
and report back.

I'm 532/937 on ProjectEuler.net, so I think my math is right.


 

4.2 volts across 50 ohms is +25 dBm. 0.5 uV across 50 ohms is -113 dBm. That's an awful lot of attenuation you're going to need (25 + 113)--I doubt your extensive shielding needed between input and output will be sufficient.

Steve AA7U

On 3/23/2025 8:20 AM, chuck adams via groups.io wrote:
I did the math.? Fundamental amplitude for a square wave is 4*A/pi, where A is the square
wave amplitude.? For A=3.3V, then fundamental is 4*3.3/pi ~= 4.2V.? Just attenuate to
0.5uV and let the receiver remove all the harmonics.? I think this will work and we
won't have to switch between filters in the generator.? Someone do the experiment
and report back.

I'm 532/937 on ProjectEuler.net, so I think my math is right.




 

I believe you can reduce the output level somewhat in the software to help with the attenuation.?

73 Don ve3ids?

On Sun., Mar. 23, 2025, 11:38 a.m. Steve Ratzlaff via , <ratzlaffsteve=[email protected]> wrote:
4.2 volts across 50 ohms is +25 dBm. 0.5 uV across 50 ohms is -113 dBm.
That's an awful lot of attenuation you're going to need (25 + 113)--I
doubt your extensive shielding needed between input and output will be
sufficient.

Steve AA7U

On 3/23/2025 8:20 AM, chuck adams via wrote:
> I did the math.? Fundamental amplitude for a square wave is 4*A/pi,
> where A is the square
> wave amplitude.? For A=3.3V, then fundamental is 4*3.3/pi ~= 4.2V.?
> Just attenuate to
> 0.5uV and let the receiver remove all the harmonics.? I think this
> will work and we
> won't have to switch between filters in the generator.? Someone do the
> experiment
> and report back.
>
> I'm 532/937 on ProjectEuler.net, so I think my math is right.
>
>
>
>
>






 

Before 40 people jump in to correct me on absolute levels from this square wave output, I was being somewhat tongue in cheek in my reply. Even if the absolute fundamental output of this generator is even 0 dBm, there is a lot of attenuation needed to get the signal down to -113 dBm. (It's easier to think in dB units than volts.)

73,

Steve AA7U

On 3/23/2025 8:38 AM, Steve Ratzlaff wrote:
4.2 volts across 50 ohms is +25 dBm. 0.5 uV across 50 ohms is -113 dBm. That's an awful lot of attenuation you're going to need (25 + 113)--I doubt your extensive shielding needed between input and output will be sufficient.

Steve AA7U

On 3/23/2025 8:20 AM, chuck adams via groups.io wrote:
I did the math.? Fundamental amplitude for a square wave is 4*A/pi, where A is the square
wave amplitude.? For A=3.3V, then fundamental is 4*3.3/pi ~= 4.2V.? Just attenuate to
0.5uV and let the receiver remove all the harmonics.? I think this will work and we
won't have to switch between filters in the generator.? Someone do the experiment
and report back.

I'm 532/937 on ProjectEuler.net, so I think my math is right.




 

On Sun, Mar 23, 2025 at 04:20 PM, chuck adams wrote:
? Just attenuate to 0.5uV and let the receiver remove all the harmonics.
?
The title says S9 (50uV) generator. What are the 0.5uV for?
?
--
73, Robert