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Re: [QRP-L] FOX: propagation tests (long)


W.D. (Doc) Lindsey
 

Gary:

Several have theorised that it *was* in fact related to large (= read
"commercial") aircraft coming into land in the Twin Cities. Sure makes
sense to me. Here for instance is what Scott N0AR wrote overnite:

Hey Doc -
I had the same thing happen to me, N0UR is only 20 miles away.
I was listening and heard a jet plane taking the E/W route to MSP. (They
do this when traffic is heavy) Anyway Jim suddenly went to a solid S9, I
made the qso and within 25 seconds he was back in the noise and gone for
good. Bottom line is that there is always hope for a contact, you just
have to be ready for your opportunity!

GL - Scott N0AR Vadnais Hgts, MN<

These large aircraft include the huge widebodies from all around the world
which fly to the Minneapolis airport which is a hub for _____________
Airline. Sometimes traffic is quite heavy as they are sequenced to the
airport, plus these big planes land slowly anyway. So it certainly makes
sense that they could/would offer a 20-25 second "target" when I could have
worked Jim, ie a reflector between N0UR in MSP and K0UR in Rochester.

73,
--Doc/K0EVZ


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Subject: Re: [QRP-L] FOX: propagation tests (long)


-----Original Message-----
From: W.D. (Doc) Lindsey <dock0evz@...>
To: qfox <qfox@...>; QRP-L Reflector <qrp-l@...>
Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:07:17 -0700
Subject: [QRP-L] FOX: propagation tests (long)

And SUDDENLY....out of all that white noise here came Jim calling
calling a huge CQ FOX at about 25 over S-9! It only lasted about 20-25
seconds! I nearly fell off the chair, it was so loud and so unexpected.
Luckily he heard me during that short burst, and we made contact. And I
was in the log. Chuck Adams happened to come to Minneapolis a week or two
later, and Jim and I asked him about this curious incident. And he
confirmed that while rare, this kind of thing did indeed occasionally
occur
on 40 Metres, which is one reason he had decided to put the HF FOX Hunt on
40 Metres in the first place!
Many tks for that post Doc. Many of us have just given up attempting
to work FOXii that are located in surrounding States (being just too
close for long skip propagation conditions). It definitely is a hard
nut to crack. I think your suggestion is the correct one .. keep
monitoring the frequency for that "quick burst" from the FOX. I know
it's boring just listening to noise for a long period of time. However,
if you wish to be successful, this must be done.

Here's my question Doc. Chuck and others agree that this propagation
oddity does occur on rare occasions. What we're not being told is ...
what allows it to happen??? This curiosity is driving me nuts. HI
I believe aircraft being in the right place can briefly reflect a VHF
signal (burst) on occasion but our focus is what happens on HF.
Interesting question eh? Take care my friend.

72, Gary -K8KFJ-
West Virginia

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