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FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability?
I'm using lockdown for one of my irregular and sporadic attempts to get back into some Proper Modelling in O14 and make some progress with a couple of small projects. I'm not too familiar with what's around in 7mm at present, so can anyone confirm that I'm right in thinking the only FR rolling stock available is as below?
Chris |
开云体育I think Mountaineer Models has a few items in their Shapeways 3d printed shop: ?
? I think David John (Rhyd) has some and they look pretty good to me.? It depends what era you are after, the wagons (which you can get in a pack of 5 different types) cover pretty much all the eras but the Conway Castle is obviously for much later in the preservation era. ? Cheers, ? Robin ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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Sent: 28 April 2020 08:25 To: [email protected] Subject: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability? ? I'm using lockdown for one of my irregular and sporadic attempts to get back into some Proper Modelling in O14 and make some progress with a couple of small projects. I'm not too familiar with what's around in 7mm at present, so can anyone confirm that I'm right in thinking the only FR rolling stock available is as below?
Thanks in advance, |
开云体育Chris, ? If all that stops Mercian supplying is wheels, AFAIK they use Alan Gibson wheels. Colin Seymour who has AG now is still working, I spoke to him yesterday. One thing to watch, AG do their wheels on 26.5 mm standard axles but also on 24.5.? 14mm gauge on the longer axles looks odd, the shorter axles, still a bit long for 14mm gauge look better but it will depend on what the kit is designed to take. ? Association white metal bogies are I think based on FR practice. ? Frank ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chrisveitch via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2020 08:25 To: [email protected] Subject: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability? ? I'm using lockdown for one of my irregular and sporadic attempts to get back into some Proper Modelling in O14 and make some progress with a couple of small projects. I'm not too familiar with what's around in 7mm at present, so can anyone confirm that I'm right in thinking the only FR rolling stock available is as below?
Thanks in advance, |
Chris, EDM does small England engine wheelsets too: Though Paul is understandably not taking orders at present. I've just re-read your question and notice you say rolling stock, but as I've written this it may be of interest! Hopefully won't be TOO long before we're allowed to play up there again. Cheers, Pete
On Tuesday, 28 April 2020, 11:15:22 BST, Frank Sharp via groups.io <frank.j.sharp@...> wrote:
Chris, ? If all that stops Mercian supplying is wheels, AFAIK they use Alan Gibson wheels. Colin Seymour who has AG now is still working, I spoke to him yesterday. One thing to watch, AG do their wheels on 26.5 mm standard axles but also on 24.5.? 14mm gauge on the longer axles looks odd, the shorter axles, still a bit long for 14mm gauge look better but it will depend on what the kit is designed to take. ? Association white metal bogies are I think based on FR practice. ? Frank ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chrisveitch via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2020 08:25 To: [email protected] Subject: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability? ? I'm using lockdown for one of my irregular and sporadic attempts to get back into some Proper Modelling in O14 and make some progress with a couple of small projects. I'm not too familiar with what's around in 7mm at present, so can anyone confirm that I'm right in thinking the only FR rolling stock available is as below?
Thanks in advance, |
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 03:15 AM, Frank Sharp wrote:
If all that stops Mercian supplying is wheels, AFAIK they use Alan Gibson wheels. Colin Seymour who has AG now is still working, I spoke to him yesterday. One thing to watch, AG do their wheels on 26.5 mm standard axles but also on 24.5.? 14mm gauge on the longer axles looks odd, the shorter axles, still a bit long for 14mm gauge look better but it will depend on what the kit is designed to take.Thanks for that Frank - the (slightly esoteric) Mercian site says "Slate series unavailable due to wheel shortages" but doesn't specify which kits this includes. I think I'll have to assume it's anything with curly-spoked wheels as that what their slate waggon kits use.? Regards, Chris |
开云体育Chris, AG do the curly spoke wheels. Mercian aren't brilliant at answering e-mails, you could try phoning ? Frank ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Veitch via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2020 12:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability? ? On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 03:15 AM, Frank Sharp wrote: If all that stops Mercian supplying is wheels, AFAIK they use Alan Gibson wheels. Colin Seymour who has AG now is still working, I spoke to him yesterday. One thing to watch, AG do their wheels on 26.5 mm standard axles but also on 24.5.? 14mm gauge on the longer axles looks odd, the shorter axles, still a bit long for 14mm gauge look better but it will depend on what the kit is designed to take. Thanks for that Frank - the (slightly esoteric) Mercian site says "Slate series unavailable due to wheel shortages" but doesn't specify which kits this includes. I think I'll have to assume it's anything with curly-spoked wheels as that what their slate waggon kits use.? |
开云体育If I can shed a bit of light on the AG curly spoked wheel issue….. ? There has been an availability issue for some time now and despite it not needing a massive amount of time to fix it doesn’t seem to be getting to the top of the to do list.?? The problem is that the latest batch of axles bought in, whilst in spec, were at the max diameter of acceptable. These worked with many of the wheels in the range but it would seem the pin in the mould that determines the axle hole in the curly spoke wheels is at the minimum end of the spec. In most of the wheels this sort of thing isn’t a problem, it just makes them a tighter fit on the axle. The curly spoke doesn’t have much of a boss in the middle and it instead tends to split.? The fix is a slightly larger pin in the mould. Not a long job but also clearly not seen as a priority. ? I do have some in stock – mostly the larger ones I think. I would try nagging Colin for the bulk order I have had in for nearly two years now but then, awkwardly, he’d want paying which with EDM Models closed at the moment I don’t have the money for. ? On the health front. After a couple of dodgy weeks dealing with infections and blood balances made more complicated by Covid19 I am now on the mend. [came out of hospital with a cough caused by the anaesthetic then gets an infection in the surgery causing a fever – well you can guess the conclusion the GP jumped to].? I am getting a bit better everyday and getting frustrated and what I can’t do. It’ll be a couple of weeks yet before I re-open EDM Models and make our website live again [the boss won’t let me jeopardise my recovery by doing it too soon] but my limited potterings at the moment are making some moves towards that day. I will add counting up the curly spokes and making sure they are on the website to the to do list ? Paul Martin EDM Models ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Veitch via
Sent: 28 April 2020 12:40 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability? ? On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 03:46 AM, Peter Tarver wrote:
Indeed Pete. Cabin fever setting in badly here. A Saturday afternoon pottering about in Minffordd Yard would be most welcome.? |
开云体育Hi Paul Good to see that your on the mend. ? ? Marc Dobson ? From: Paul Martin
Sent: 28 April 2020 12:57 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability? ? If I can shed a bit of light on the AG curly spoked wheel issue….. ? There has been an availability issue for some time now and despite it not needing a massive amount of time to fix it doesn’t seem to be getting to the top of the to do list.?? The problem is that the latest batch of axles bought in, whilst in spec, were at the max diameter of acceptable. These worked with many of the wheels in the range but it would seem the pin in the mould that determines the axle hole in the curly spoke wheels is at the minimum end of the spec. In most of the wheels this sort of thing isn’t a problem, it just makes them a tighter fit on the axle. The curly spoke doesn’t have much of a boss in the middle and it instead tends to split.? The fix is a slightly larger pin in the mould. Not a long job but also clearly not seen as a priority. ? I do have some in stock – mostly the larger ones I think. I would try nagging Colin for the bulk order I have had in for nearly two years now but then, awkwardly, he’d want paying which with EDM Models closed at the moment I don’t have the money for. ? On the health front. After a couple of dodgy weeks dealing with infections and blood balances made more complicated by Covid19 I am now on the mend. [came out of hospital with a cough caused by the anaesthetic then gets an infection in the surgery causing a fever – well you can guess the conclusion the GP jumped to].? I am getting a bit better everyday and getting frustrated and what I can’t do. It’ll be a couple of weeks yet before I re-open EDM Models and make our website live again [the boss won’t let me jeopardise my recovery by doing it too soon] but my limited potterings at the moment are making some moves towards that day. I will add counting up the curly spokes and making sure they are on the website to the to do list ? Paul Martin EDM Models ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Chris Veitch via ? On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 03:46 AM, Peter Tarver wrote:
Indeed Pete. Cabin fever setting in badly here. A Saturday afternoon pottering about in Minffordd Yard would be most welcome.? ? |
开云体育Paul, ? Would a 2mm parallel reamer not sort this on a temporary basis if Colin will supply wheels and axles as separate items? Not suggesting you do them, but it wouldn't be a major task for any of us to do our own, ? Frank ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Martin
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April, 2020 12:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability? ? If I can shed a bit of light on the AG curly spoked wheel issue….. ? There has been an availability issue for some time now and despite it not needing a massive amount of time to fix it doesn’t seem to be getting to the top of the to do list.?? The problem is that the latest batch of axles bought in, whilst in spec, were at the max diameter of acceptable. These worked with many of the wheels in the range but it would seem the pin in the mould that determines the axle hole in the curly spoke wheels is at the minimum end of the spec. In most of the wheels this sort of thing isn’t a problem, it just makes them a tighter fit on the axle. The curly spoke doesn’t have much of a boss in the middle and it instead tends to split.? The fix is a slightly larger pin in the mould. Not a long job but also clearly not seen as a priority. ? I do have some in stock – mostly the larger ones I think. I would try nagging Colin for the bulk order I have had in for nearly two years now but then, awkwardly, he’d want paying which with EDM Models closed at the moment I don’t have the money for. ? On the health front. After a couple of dodgy weeks dealing with infections and blood balances made more complicated by Covid19 I am now on the mend. [came out of hospital with a cough caused by the anaesthetic then gets an infection in the surgery causing a fever – well you can guess the conclusion the GP jumped to].? I am getting a bit better everyday and getting frustrated and what I can’t do. It’ll be a couple of weeks yet before I re-open EDM Models and make our website live again [the boss won’t let me jeopardise my recovery by doing it too soon] but my limited potterings at the moment are making some moves towards that day. I will add counting up the curly spokes and making sure they are on the website to the to do list ? Paul Martin EDM Models ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Veitch via ? On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 03:46 AM, Peter Tarver wrote:
Indeed Pete. Cabin fever setting in badly here. A Saturday afternoon pottering about in Minffordd Yard would be most welcome.? |
开云体育Hi Frank
?
I think you’ll find it will just rip the centre out of the wheel spokes,
they are very fragile. I was led to believe that Colin had sorted the problem
as, after a two year + wait, I received a bulk delivery from him last October
for my Port Wynnstay kits including “Curly” spoke wheels in the 10.5 mm
diameter, whether he has fixed the other diameters yet I don’t know.
?
Phil T.
Port Wynnstay Models
? From: Frank Sharp via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock
availability? ?
Paul, ? Would a 2mm parallel reamer not sort this on a temporary basis if Colin will supply wheels and axles as separate items? Not suggesting you do them, but it wouldn't be a major task for any of us to do our own, ? Frank ? From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul
Martin ? If I can shed a bit of light on the AG curly spoked wheel issue….. ? There has been an availability issue for some time now and despite it not needing a massive amount of time to fix it doesn’t seem to be getting to the top of the to do list.?? The problem is that the latest batch of axles bought in, whilst in spec, were at the max diameter of acceptable. These worked with many of the wheels in the range but it would seem the pin in the mould that determines the axle hole in the curly spoke wheels is at the minimum end of the spec. In most of the wheels this sort of thing isn’t a problem, it just makes them a tighter fit on the axle. The curly spoke doesn’t have much of a boss in the middle and it instead tends to split.? The fix is a slightly larger pin in the mould. Not a long job but also clearly not seen as a priority. ? I do have some in stock – mostly the larger ones I think. I would try nagging Colin for the bulk order I have had in for nearly two years now but then, awkwardly, he’d want paying which with EDM Models closed at the moment I don’t have the money for. ? On the health front. After a couple of dodgy weeks dealing with infections and blood balances made more complicated by Covid19 I am now on the mend. [came out of hospital with a cough caused by the anaesthetic then gets an infection in the surgery causing a fever – well you can guess the conclusion the GP jumped to].? I am getting a bit better everyday and getting frustrated and what I can’t do. It’ll be a couple of weeks yet before I re-open EDM Models and make our website live again [the boss won’t let me jeopardise my recovery by doing it too soon] but my limited potterings at the moment are making some moves towards that day. I will add counting up the curly spokes and making sure they are on the website to the to do list ? Paul Martin EDM Models ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris
Veitch via ? On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 03:46 AM, Peter Tarver wrote:
Indeed Pete. Cabin fever setting in badly here. A Saturday
afternoon pottering about in Minffordd Yard would be most welcome. |
I got some curly spoke 10.5mm from Colin (AG) a couple of months ago and he wasn’t able to fulfil all the order as I had cleared him out. Sorry! However, they seem fine.?
I think if you ring him and get to the end of the usually hilarious and tortuous voicemail message, he will ring back. A reasonable order would hopefully result in a batch coming off his production line. cheers Paul? |
开云体育>> A reasonable order would hopefully result in a batch coming off his production line.<< ? Dream on. Mercian, Phil and Myself placed orders for over a 1000 wheels in each size and still nothing happened. At the last York show we even set his wife on him, which usually gets things done, but nothing happened. I suspect that he has recently found some of the last batch of axles which would account for him completing some orders and not others ? Paul ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Paul Holmes
Sent: 28 April 2020 14:36 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [o14] FR 7mm scale rolling stock availability? ? [Edited Message Follows] I got some curly spoke 10.5mm from Colin (AG) a couple of months ago and he wasn’t able to fulfil all the order as I had cleared him out. Sorry! However, they seem fine.? |