Re: 7mm Irish Narrow Gauge on 21mm
Slaters do some wheels. I got some for my aborted 3ft Ravenglass and Eskdale project they are not bad and they will supply standard gauge wheels on 3ft axles.
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Furness Railway Wagon Co/Pre-Grouping Railways
www.pregroupingrailways.com
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01229219875
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From: Adrian Colenutt via groups.io
Sent: 20 October 2020 19:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] 7mm Irish Narrow Gauge on 21mm
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Hi Kelvin,
I would suggest looking at David Holman's Fintonagh - Irish Narrow Gauge 7mm/ft on 21mm gauge.
David has a thread on the Irish Railway Modeller forum.
Some pictures can be found at
Adrian
West Sussex
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kelvin White
Sent: 08 October 2020 17:20
To: [email protected]
Subject: [o14] 7mm Irish Narrow Gauge on 21mm
I’ve abandoned thoughts of using 5.5mm/ft on 16.5mm.? Is anybody on this list modelling the Irish or IoM in 7mm on 21mm gauge track?? I want advise on available kits etc.
thanks
best regards
Stay safe
Stay sane
Kelvin
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Re: 7mm Irish Narrow Gauge on 21mm
Hi Kelvin,
I would suggest looking at David Holman's Fintonagh - Irish Narrow Gauge 7mm/ft on 21mm gauge.
David has a thread on the Irish Railway Modeller forum.
Some pictures can be found at
Adrian
West Sussex
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Kelvin White Sent: 08 October 2020 17:20 To: [email protected]Subject: [o14] 7mm Irish Narrow Gauge on 21mm I’ve abandoned thoughts of using 5.5mm/ft on 16.5mm. Is anybody on this list modelling the Irish or IoM in 7mm on 21mm gauge track? I want advise on available kits etc. thanks best regards Stay safe Stay sane Kelvin
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7mm Irish Narrow Gauge on 21mm
I’ve abandoned thoughts of using 5.5mm/ft on 16.5mm. Is anybody on this list modelling the Irish or IoM in 7mm on 21mm gauge track? I want advise on available kits etc.
thanks
best regards
Stay safe
Stay sane
Kelvin
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Re: Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling REVIEW
Issue 124?is at the printers ready for distribution?later this month.?
The contents are:
- Tywyn Wharf in 5.5mm Scale?George Williamson describes his post preservation layout with plan
- Hard at Work?A close look at locomotive weathering by John Clutterbuck with protoype photos
- Talyllyn Railway Wagons?More craft work in 1:32 scale with Trevor Hughes
- Arizona Copper Company 20 inch gauge Locomotive No.8?Stuart L Baker describes an unusual prototype with prototype photos and scale drawing
- Drumcudden in 16mm Scale?Expanding on a theme by Paul Lindsay-Scott
- Come into my Parlour?David John kitbashes a Sandy River & Rangely Lakes Railroad Carrabasset in O14
- Tank Locomotive for 2ft Gauge?Archive material from Engineering magazine with makers GA scale drawing
And the usual editorial, news & jottings and product reviews.
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? Hi David - I’m awaiting a baseplate etch test sample from Narrow Planet (with associated clip - you would have to source the bolt separately) as per the Lynton and Barnstaple in SR days, ?now that the KB scale ABS moulded one is no longer a available.
Unfortunately the test etch has been delayed due to COVID-19, but once sorted I have asked for it to be available via NP for others interested in building their own track.
In the meantime, Branchlines advertise an etched NG baseplate in their range with fold up clips for the rail (which I have not personally seen).
BW
Jeremy
Jeremy Reed 07766442516 reed.jeremy48@...
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On 5 Oct 2020, at 13:44, elvan4472 via groups.io <DafyddElvy@...> wrote:
?I found this thread while searching for information regarding flat bottom rail base plates, I'm not yet sure if I'll use code 75 or 83 rail, being short of sanity I will be using individual ply sleepers.
My interest would therefore be for base plates, either with or without bolt or spike heads.
I don't know if this is something others might be interested in?
David?
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I found this thread while searching for information regarding flat bottom rail base plates, I'm not yet sure if I'll use code 75 or 83 rail, being short of sanity I will be using individual ply sleepers.
My interest would therefore be for base plates, either with or without bolt or spike heads.
I don't know if this is something others might be interested in?
David?
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
The Kadee coupler is not sprung. It is a tight fit so it won't flop around, but it can move a bit. With small industrial locomotives you can normally get away without using the Kadee draft box as the sideways offset is never too great.
If you look at??you can see a two level coupler pocket at the front of the Hunslet locomotive and you can just see an autocoupler adapter that is hooked into the coupler pocket at the rear.
Regards,
Michael Milway
Unanderra, Australia
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
Really nice idea Michael.? It has given me an idea for interchangeable couplers.? Ie. Link & Pin and Chopper. Regards
Rod Hutchinson
Mooroolbark, Australia
On Tue, 29 Sep. 2020, 15:42 Michael Milway, < xmjm57@...> wrote: I have built a pair of 2 level coupler pockets out of 40th styrene sheet and added them to my Simplex locomotive. I found a centre set Kadee #5 coupler could be fitted at the correct height in the bottom pocket. It is removable if I feel the need.
I have added some photos to my photo album (/g/o14/album?id=33470) showing the results. I think it came up quite well despite other people's misgivings.
I have also added a couple of photos of my model of the Illawarra Light Railway's #1 passenger carriage ().
Regards,
Michael Milway
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
That looks to be a very neat solution to fitting Kadee couplings.? Have you been able to spring them at all?
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Robin
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
I have built a pair of 2 level coupler pockets out of 40th styrene sheet and added them to my Simplex locomotive. I found a centre set Kadee #5 coupler could be fitted at the correct height in the bottom pocket. It is removable if I feel the need. I have added some photos to my photo album ( /g/o14/album?id=33470) showing the results. I think it came up quite well despite other people's misgivings. I have also added a couple of photos of my model of the Illawarra Light Railway's #1 passenger carriage (). Regards, Michael Milway
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The following photos have been
updated in
the mjm album of the [email protected] group.
By:
Michael Milway
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
That productive group of northern French NG modellers that rejoice under the title "escadrille saint michel” have a Nigel Lawton Simplex that works well, and might even boast KaDee couplers. I spoke to them about the fan. I was told that it worked well until they painted the loco and then “elas!” no more.
David WOODCOCK
Champlon, Belgique
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
The driver is also available from S&D Models, ref OF229.
Scroll about 2/3 down the page.
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Robin
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Thanks to all those who responded. No-one appears to have made the fan work, so I won't feel to bad about it either. I have just bought a KBScale Lister kit with driver. The driver is too fat to fit in the Simplex. (Sedentary factory worker
Vs active soldier?) The driver sold for the Simplex is currently out of stock.
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
I just thought I'd put in my twopeneth.
I built the simplex when they first came out, so I can't remember the details, but I didn't have any trouble getting the fan to work. Unfortunately, when gluing some extra lead under the bonnet, I got some super glue on the fan gearbox which put paid to that.
The driver I think was a wagon driver from Duncan's Models. I had to chop his left arm off, but it isn't really noticeable, it looks like he is fiddling with something on the engine.
I'll try and attach a picture.
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Thanks to all those who responded. No-one appears to have made the fan work, so I won't feel to bad about it either. I have just bought a KBScale Lister kit with driver. The driver is too fat to fit in the Simplex. (Sedentary factory worker Vs active soldier?) The driver sold for the Simplex is currently out of stock.
I don't think I have seen any photos of the 7mm Simplex online with couplings fitted. I will try to make up a small coupling pocket suitable for link and pin couplings. I will then modify a Kadee coupling to fit in the pocket. They will be removable. I like the idea of a?phosphor bronze wire?to centre the couplings, but I don't think there will be room.
My imaginary railway will be a small narrow gauge feeder (ala Whelshpool and Llanfair, but with lots of eucalyptus?trees) starting from the old Yallah railway site South of Wollongong in NSW and running up the Macquarie River valley to the foot of the escapment. The locomotives and rolling stock will be based on the exhibits at the nearby Illawarra Light?Railway Museum?(?) and anything else that takes my fancy. The?ILRMS uses small auto couplers on its large locomotives and passenger stock. These scale out to about the same size as Kadee H0 couplers in 7mm scale. The small industrial locomotives have auto coupler adapters that fit into the standard coupler pockets, so the above idea is actually authentic.
I have been an active member of the ILRMS for 38 years and the ILRMS has the original Yallah station building, so it all fits together.
Regards,
Michael Milway
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
Michael, ? Did more or less what you did with the coupling but on a KB Scale Lister.? One trick, drill into the end of the shaft and Araldite in a very thin length of phosphor bronze wire so the coupling self centres. Cannot remember the wire gauge but it is the thinnest that Eileen's do. ? Frank ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Milway
Sent: Tuesday, 1 September, 2020 00:59
To: [email protected]
Subject: [o14] Nigel Lawton Simplex kit? Hi all,
I have just about finished building my Nigel Lawton Bow Frame 20HP Simplex kit in 14mm gauge. I will post some pictures when it is complete. At few questions for the group:
What driver figure are people using?
Has anyone got the fan motor to work? I have everything in place. I can run the worm drive with my battery drill and watch the fan turn. But the motor isn't strong enough to run it. (I used the large 1/2W resistor for the main motor and the small 1/4W resistor for the fan motor. The instructions were not clear on which resistor to use.)
I would appreciate some advice on installing couplers. I would prefer to use Kadee couplers mounted at standard H0 height. On one previous locomotive I found that a cut off coupler shaft (i.e. remove the part that goes in the draft box) with a hole drilled in the shaft fitted reasonably well in one of the pockets in a three level coupling of the sort fitted to a lot of industrial locomotives. In this case, the Simplex comes with no form of couplings at all.
Regards,
Michael Milway
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
I used the other KB Scale figure, also available from S&D Models.
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I think it was originally intended for the Ruston LBT models from Roy C Link/KB Scale.? I find it a very versatile figure as it is
compact so it fits into some pretty small spaces.? For this loco I cut up between the legs and behind the right knee to swing that leg forward to rest on the clutch pedal.? The left arm is separate and was adjusted to sit on the gear lever. The figure comes
with 2 heads; the one shown and the other with a hard hat plus lamp.
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I am too clumsy to even think about getting the fan to work so I can’t help you with that bit.
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Robin
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
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Regarding a driver ... the old ABS cast whitemetal figures are now available from KWTrams ?( - scroll down page).? The range includes Simplex drivers in both uniform and civvies!
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Stay safe
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David
Website: www.rhyd.weebly.com
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
Hi Michael,
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It has been a very long time since I completed my model, however I believe
I used the driver sold by KB Scale.
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Cheers
Bruce W.
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From: Michael
Milway
Sent: 1 September, 2020 9:59 AM
Subject: [o14] Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
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Hi
all,
I have just about finished building my Nigel Lawton Bow Frame 20HP
Simplex kit in 14mm gauge. I will post some pictures when it is complete. At few
questions for the group:
What driver figure are people using?
Has
anyone got the fan motor to work? I have everything in place. I can run the worm
drive with my battery drill and watch the fan turn. But the motor isn't strong
enough to run it. (I used the large 1/2W resistor for the main motor and the
small 1/4W resistor for the fan motor. The instructions were not clear on which
resistor to use.)
I would appreciate some advice on installing couplers.
I would prefer to use Kadee couplers mounted at standard H0 height. On one
previous locomotive I found that a cut off coupler shaft (i.e. remove the part
that goes in the draft box) with a hole drilled in the shaft fitted reasonably
well in one of the pockets in a three level coupling of the sort fitted to a lot
of industrial locomotives. In this case, the Simplex comes with no form of
couplings at all.
Regards,
Michael Milway
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Re: Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
Ouch!!!
John Craig
Brenham, Texas
U.S.A
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It would be a shame to put kadee couplings onto a nice model and make it look like a piece of junk, why don;t you consider a more authentic type of coupling?
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Brian
Rawbelle County Workshops
Qld. Aust.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 9:59 AM
Subject: [o14] Nigel Lawton Simplex kit
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Hi all,
I have just about finished building my Nigel Lawton Bow Frame 20HP Simplex kit in 14mm gauge. I will post some pictures when it is complete. At few questions for the group:
What driver figure are people using?
Has anyone got the fan motor to work? I have everything in place. I can run the worm drive with my battery drill and watch the fan turn. But the motor isn't strong enough to run it. (I used the large 1/2W resistor for the main motor and the small 1/4W resistor
for the fan motor. The instructions were not clear on which resistor to use.)
I would appreciate some advice on installing couplers. I would prefer to use Kadee couplers mounted at standard H0 height. On one previous locomotive I found that a cut off coupler shaft (i.e. remove the part that goes in the draft box) with a hole drilled
in the shaft fitted reasonably well in one of the pockets in a three level coupling of the sort fitted to a lot of industrial locomotives. In this case, the Simplex comes with no form of couplings at all.
Regards,
Michael Milway
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Robin Edwards
