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The conical spring design I first saw on the old Tyco 10 wheeler that was being sold back in the 1970’s it had a conical spring for the 4 pilot wheels and worked very well. The link I gave you for the spring is about the right spring to use, as available from there stock spring range unless you want to have a custom spring made which would cost you an arm & leg, not to mention having to perhaps buy 1000 minimum. I don’t know how much weight you have in your loco, but if that spring tend to lift the drivers slightly you may have to add a bit more weight to the loco, which will make it run better and pull better. And yes, small end to the top or loco chassis and big end to the pilot or pony wheels frames.
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Brian
Rawbelle County Workshops
Qld. Aust.
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From: Allan Dare
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [o14] Loco suspension
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Hi Brian
Thanks - the conical spring idea is intriguing. Am I right to assume that the narrow end of the spring is centred on and attached to the loco frames, with the truck bolster moving laterally under the wide end of the spring?
Putting in see-saw compensation would be ideal, but unfortunately the frames, etc. were all built rigid when I started construction of the loco back in 2001(!). As it was the first etched brass loco I'd ever attempted, I kept things simple (crude would be a better description). Still, all part of the learning curve....So, thanks for the offer of etching components, but for now I'm stuck with the original arrangement.
Allan


On 28 Jul 2018, at 21:45, Brian <rallim56@...> wrote:

Allan,
I have done this on a number of different loco's over the years, there are several ways of doing this, the simplest way is to do it is to use a conical shaped spring, that way it not only applies a down force but also creates a sideways resistance.
I don't know how much room you have to play with but one possible spring might be this one:-
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Another way of doing it is to set up all 5 axles so they have “see-saw” arms between each axle meaning all 5 axles carry the weight of the loco, and then have horizontally mounted straight compression springs to control the side movement.
Let me know what you want I can probably photo etch some components to make it all work how it should.
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Brian
Rawbelle County Workshops
Qld. Aust.
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From: Allan Dare
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 1:56 AM
Subject: [o14] Loco suspension
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I'm just finishing off an Alan Gibson kit for an L&B 2-6-2t. (I purchased it from Alan's stand at NEC Warley in 2001, which may be some kind of record for slow work!).
Anyway, given the short coupled wheelbase and long overhangs on the Lynton locos, it would be nice to incorporate some form of side control on the front and rear trucks, so that they do their real-life job of helping steer the loco into curves. However, my initial efforts have merely succeeded in lifting the lead truck's inside wheel off the rail on curves.
Has anyone developed a satisfactory form of pony truck side control for the larger n.g. locos, or is this best consigned to the "too difficult" file?
Allan
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