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Re: Net105 Observations


 

Hi,

My 2-cents, while a lot of it ought to be common sense and basic good 'ham practice', including noting 105 is not an aprs or wx spot (APRS has own frequency spots), this is really also very key;

"There shouldn't be "forwarding" or "sending messages at a timed interval" of any kind on frequency because it ties it up. If you want to forward, add an additional HF port on another frequency or 220 Mhz backbone frequency. It will be more effective anyway."

I've seen some of this lately on 20m 105 and I really think it should be avoided. Even if it seems benign, it really congests the heck out of the shared spot for all others.

Use an alternative freq for it.

Hopefully we all can use these bands well if we are considerate of others, and a lot of it is basically this premise, fundamentally.

All the best, de louis / kd2yck



On Sun, 17 Sept 2023 at 23:07, Chris Lance WW2BSA <Ww2bsa@...> wrote:
I'm not sure if I am echoing what you are saying and apologize in advance if I am misunderstanding what you are saying: a CW ID isn't necessary on packet because you call is already included in the data. Not even sure why it's there. Never seen it used in packet.

I believe what Burt was saying in regards to "there are no full server BBS to BBS forwarding systems" is because it ties up the frequency. Remember, the purpose of Network105 is real-time, live, keyboard-to-keyboard 300 baud AX.25 packet QSO's. Nodes help promulgate that goal, while mailboxes are a perk.
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There shouldn't be "forwarding" or "sending messages at a timed interval" of any kind on frequency because it ties it up. If you want to forward, add an additional HF port on another frequency or 220 Mhz backbone frequency. It will be more effective anyway.
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My advice on beacons: west of the Mississippi River - beacon on the hour every 30 mins. East of the Mississippi - beacon 10 mins past the hour every 30 mins. Europe - beacon every 20 mins past the hour every 30 mins. Too many collisions that way? Then stagger beacons. How? Note sure...
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Your thoughts on all this
Chris Lance
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On 09/17/2023 7:19 PM EDT Chris, N6CTA <mail@...> wrote:
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I will say though that LID comments are unnecessary and I did want to clarify some things.
We¡¯re all forever learning here.

CWID is identifying via CW instead of packet. That¡¯s not the same as sending traffic with the BEACON or ID designation. Sending a message at a timed interval to all the stations on this network detailing services and maidenhead is the same as calling CQ if the station can and will respond to queries. That is the nature of ACDS and differentiates the traffic from a beacon. That is well within the letter and spirt of both the law and the guidelines of the network.

Sending traffic to PBBS¡¯s is K2K. It does not need to be two live operators at the same time to qualify.?



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