Tdr
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Haven*t bought one yet but I*d like to make sure I get a version capable of the TDR addition. I*ll have to figure out how to add it if necessary after receiving it. Thanks.
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.NanoVNA-H v3.5_L: white screen - how do I connect USB to fix?
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I couldn't connect to the unit and somehow managed to wipe the processor. I've tried resetting it to reconnect, but the only response I get is in STM32Cube Programmer 'UR is set by HWrst' or something similar. I tried shorting BOOT0 to VDD as noted, screen remains white, no connection. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
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Erratic traces with SAA2N
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I have been using my nanovna SAA2N for months without issues, and I bought it from R&L who is an authorized distributer of legitimate Nanovna's. This morning my issue started after I calibrated the unit. All of my traces were erratic (see attached picture). Smith chart is a mess of zig zags instead of arcs. I tried the following and nothing has fixed the issue. "Reset" and "Reset All" prior to calibration. Tried multiple frequency ranges and trace points. Tried using both cables. Tested the cables for shorts/continuity. Tested all three standards (short, open, load) with an ohm meter, unfortunately I don't have another set to try. Flashed the firmware. Opened up the case and confirmed good solder joints and continuity from the N connectors to the board. Wiggled the connections and nothing changed. Checked again when the battery was fully charged. Also tried using VNA View and got the same results. The unit was safely stored in the case between the last time it worked and now. What am I missing?
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Different SWR/Smith plots, when off center dipole wire connections to transformer reversed?
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A ham friend has an unusual indoor antenna that he uses with a Zachtek WSPR transmitter. He gets lots of spots from the 200mW transmitter (>500 unique band/spotter combinations in 24 hours), and the beauty of the Zachtek is its tolerance of essentially any antenna load (from nothing attached to fully shorted). His antenna is effectively an off center fed dipole, where the two wire legs wrap around the inside bedroom walls, and are of random/different lengths..i.e .just whatever would fit onto the four walls. The two dipole legs are connected to a simple 6:4 turn ratio transformer (approx. 2:25:1 impedance ratio), with the primary side of the transformer attached to a 4 ft coax feedline line to the Zachtek transmitter. I decided to make some measurements of the SWR with the nanoVNA attached to this "creative" antenna setup. The nanoVNA was OSL-calibrated, followed by attaching the antenna feedline to collect data in nanovnasaver software. After collecting the data, I decided to reverse the two dipole legs connected to the transformer secondary, just to make sure I was getting reproducible data. What confused me were significant differences in the SWR/return loss/Smith charts for the two configurations. I am wondering if this simply reflects how non-balanced the dipole is, such that the coax feedline shield (about 4 ft long) from the transformer plays a different role in each of the two configurations. While making the measurements the nanoVNA was dangling hands free while connected to the USB port on my laptop...so the coax shield side would be the same in both cases...and the only electrical difference was in reversing the dipole legs (of differing lengths) connected to the transformer secondary.
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S-Parameter Plotter
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I recently wrote a program to renormalize S-parameter impedance. This lets you measure a filter with a 50 ohm VNA even though the design impedance is higher. In the course of testing the program, I needed to plot S-parameters. I searched extensively for suitable viewers, desktop or online. The ones I located were either incomplete, frustratingly awkward, or had bugs. I decided to write my own Windows S-parameter plotter. It's near the top of the following page. See the bottom of the page for downloading instructions. http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/mu.htm The first image compares group delay for two Murata ceramic filters. The next images show the benefit of phase unwrapping. Brian
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2025 SVHFS Conference Update
Below is an update on the schedule of speakers and presentations for the Southeastern VHF Society Conference. The conference will be held at the Quality Inn at Exit #4 in Clarksville, TN April 4-5, 2025. This is an opportunity to meet other VHF+ enthusiasts, learn, exchange ideas, and have FUN. The $69 registration fee for the conference is required, and it includes a 1 year membership in the SVHFS. Details are here: https://svhfs.org/wp/2025-conference/. Advance registration is highly recommended as the hotel requires a head count in order to prepare the food for the event. There will be door prizes given away at the banquet on Saturday evening. Feel free to contact me via email if you have any questions: RobinK4IDC@.... *Preliminary 2025 SVHFS Conference Schedule* *Friday* *8:00 AM Registration* 9:00 Charles Osborne -K4CSO 每 RF Zero - 30 min 9:30 Robin Midgett 每 K4IDC 每 RF Zero 2 Meter Beacon- 30 min 10:00 Bob Lear 每 W4ZST Power Dividers and Cable Loops 每 30 min 10:30 15 Minute Break 10:45 Mike Stipick 每 KC4RI 每 5.7 GHz SDR Transceiver - 45 min 11:30 Bill Pence 每 Grid Square Locator 每 30 min 12:00 PM Lunch - Steve and Sandra Kostro 每 Designing a Multi Band Transverter 1:15 2:00 Paul Wielozenski - K4PEW - VHF Nets 每 30 min 2:30 Ben Lowe 每 Rover Radiators 每 30 min 3:00 George Presley 每 10 GHz Beacon 每 30 min 4:00 Charles Osborne / Kent O* Dell 每 10GHz Antenna test Range - 30 min 5:00 Dinner 每On your own 7:00 Swap Fest and Hospitality Suite *Saturday* 9:00 AM Brian McCarthy 每 Lunar Rover Truck, 2.3GHz Amp 每 1 hour 10:00 Peter Van Horne 每 KA6U - Moon Bounce Rover 每 45 min 10:45 15 Minute Break 11:00 Chris Arthur - NV4B 每 45 min 12:00 PM Lunch - On your own 1:30 Larry Cagle - K4WLO 每 Meteor Scatter with MSK144 - 45 min 2:15 SVHFS Business Meeting 3:00 每 5:00 Rover Round Up and 10GHz Antenna Range 6:00 Social Hour- Hotel Bar 7:00 Dinner Banquet followed by the Door Prize Extravaganza! Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC
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Recall storage window
How to remove the stored numbers in the recall/empty windows
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Building Pi Network with VNA given values
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Hi All. I need to build a Pi Network for my circuit as shown in the fig below. 1741926237187.png So I have a 'Pi Matching Network' in my circuit. The datasheet asked me to build a Pi Matching Network. ( You know, how there is a series component, a source shunt component and a Load shunt component. ) Anyway, my VNA keeps telling me this: The measured load impedance is 31.9-58.5j. The VNA is automatically generating these four groups below ( group 1 thru 4 ) of available matching parameters on the screen: 1. 5.24pF capacitor for source shunt and 28.8nH inductor in series. Does that mean, this group does not need a Load Shunt at all? Does this mean that the proper tuning has been achieved with just a capacitor for source shunt and an inductor in series? 2. 23.1nH inductor for source shunt and 12nH inductor in series. Does that mean, this group does not need a Load Shunt at all? Does this mean that the proper tuning has been achieved with just a inductor for source shunt and an inductor in series? 3. 97.5nH inductor for load shunt and 23.3nH inductor in series. Does that mean, this group does not need a Source Shunt at all? Does this mean that the proper tuning has been achieved with just a inductor for load shunt and an inductor in series? 4. 15.3nH inductor for load shunt and 5.21pF capacitor in series. Does that mean, this group does not need a Source Shunt at all? Does this mean that the proper tuning has been achieved with just a inductor for load shunt and a capacitor in series? If the answer is yes to all the 4 above questions, then I still cant believe that a 'Pi matching Network' can exist with 1 of the 3 components totally missing. Ty for your reply!
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Help with LPF Measurement
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I've searched through the message list looking for symptoms similar to mine and didn't find anything. I'm somewhat new to this and would appreciate any help you can offer. I've been trying to get my NanoVNA-F (firmware 1.0.5) to show the results of a 40-meter low pass filter I've built. I know I'm doing something wrong here but can't figure it out. The VNA image is calibrated (including pass-thru), set for the range 6.5 to 29 MHz and logmag S21. Shouldn't this give a flat area leading up to the design frequency followed by a significant roll off through the remainder of the frequency range? My setup is very similar to W2AEW's YouTube demonstration of the NanoVNA with a LPF but gives entirely different results. The image is entirely different, with very large insertion loss and a steep area of suppression peaking at 11 MHz followed by a steep recovery. I worried that my filter wasn't what I thought it was so I tested it with a 7 MHz square wave, looking at input and output with the FFT function of my 'scope. The before and after images show several things: (1) the square wave (yellow trace) is hardly a square wave. It wasn't much of one before attaching to the input of the filter but it's definitely loaded and distorted by the filter. (I can live with the distortion in the test, since the filter is supposed to reduce the high freq distortion anyway, right?) (2) The purple trace is the filter output--pretty nice sine wave. (3) The FFT shows a good 40+ db suppression of the harmonics, especially the odd numbers. So the filter seems to be doing its job. There may be some things not right about my testing of the filter using signal generator and oscilloscope -- I'm new at this. For example, the shoulder on the filter output at about 10 MHz is troublesome, but still the logmag S21 output shouldn't be affected, should it? Any help in understanding why my results look as they do would be greatly appreciated. Best & 73, Mitch NK3H
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Readings are not correct for NanoVNA F V2.
Does anyone have a web-site or youtube that goes through the set-up on using the F V2 for checking Coax lengths. The new one I have does not show the correct length, example a known 15.24m / 50ft coax comes up over 3 times that. Thinking maybe velocity-factor inputs. No help. The H4 VNA I have is spot on with the numbers. Any help would be grateful. Thanks
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Seminar on VNA Basics
1 Hour... Good info... Excellent Intro.... Time well spent.... From R&S. https://event.on24.com/wcc/r/4871656/262AE419BBD73FA413BB90B6EEB73F0D?partnerref=mid_28133_na_m4c_inv-vna
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VNA-F V2 brand new screen black
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So i have in front of me a brand new in package/container: a brand new -f v2 All metal housing, protective plastic on screen. Upon start. Turn on. Screen flashes white then goes dark. Very faint lines and bars visible. This is a brand new unit. I am disinclined to take apart and mess with internals. Should i return? Warranty? How good is the company/manufacturer customer service?
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How to calibrate IF OFFSET (intermidiate frequency) in nanoVNA H4
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I am learning about RF and antennas and I want to understand how do I figure out how much the IF offset is, in NanoVNA-H4. I could not find any article explaining how to check if the default IF OFFSET (12kHz) is accurate. I also do not understand why its called an offset, since from what I read, this is the frequency that the VNA downconverts and uses it for receive-measure purposes. So it should say "IF", not "IF OFFSET". After all if it was indeed an offset setting, it would be default to 0, not around 12kHz.
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#firmware #nanovna-h
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#firmware
#nanovna-h
Hello everyone! I managed to brick my nanoVNA H (clone, as I've found later on this forum) and now it is showing a white screen. First of all, I should have read this forum before the purchase and buy the real thing, but the product looked legit at the first glance. Second, I should've made a copy of the initial firmware before I install the new one. But what is done is done and I'm looking forward for a posible solution. Do you know what firmware came with this thing in the first place, to help me roll back? Since it is a sofware problem I imagine it can be done, but the seller didn't provided his support. Thank you! There are some pictures with the front, back and inside the nanaVNA.
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NanoVNA-H version 3.6.1_SM_ST - ZEETK?
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I have NanoVNA-H version 3.6.1_SM_ST. I had 1.2.27 (20.02.2024) from the factory. During startup I had dashes, colored stripes on the screen. I downloaded new software from hugen79 in version 1.2.43. I chose the NanoVNA-H-ZK 2.8-inch NanoVNA-H using SJWCH5351 as signal source, machine label hardware version ZK or SM_ST ending because nan SM_ST. Did I do it right? MODE ZEETK generator system has now appeared. Should I stay on ZEETK or change to Si5351 or MS5351?
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New user
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I got my first Nano VNA yesterday, a friend who used to live 10 miles away, now lives 1000 miles away bought it for me along with jumpers and adapters. Today I set up "presets" for 80, 40, 20, and 2 meters. I researched a bit and found out it could be a small SD card, all I had was some 64-gig and one 16-gig card, well the 64 failed but I did manage to format the 16 to fat32 and that just got finished can see this device is going to be very handy, and a bit of a challenge, but that is OK. I have always believed that learning is a lifelong experience, and if you stop learning you stop living. As I try to learn more about this thing, I am sure I will be visiting this page frequently.
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Smith Chart accuracy - what am I missing ?
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Hi, I am trying to get to grips why I am not getting the same Smith Chart results with my NanoVNA as I am with my DG8SAQ VNA. I have got to the stage of trying to make everything as simple as possible. I am using the same connectors, cables and calibration standards. To make things even simpler I am just using a quality HV mica capacitor which measures 442 pf. According to Pasan software this should be 0 -j50 ohms at 7.2MHz. When I use the DG8SAQ VNA I get milli ohms -j46 ohms, which to me is close enough. Using the NanoVNA with an identical setup I get 11 ohms -j49 ohms. Which is pretty useless. What is going on ? T.I.A. Stewart G3RXQ
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Measuring Impedance for the 433 MHz RTL-SDR Antenna
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Hi, i am trying to get a grip on using the nanoVNA. Does anybody have the 433 MHz antenna + base from the RTL-SDR kit ? Firstly calibrated at device port (no cable), then measured the loaded monopole through its magnetic antenna base at 433 MHz (first picture, antenna is on the left): Nooelec - Nooelec NESDR SMArt v5 Bundle - HF/VHF/UHF (100kHz-1.75GHz) RTL-SDR Kit with 3 Antennas. RTL2832U & R820T2-Based Software Defined Radio Mounted on car hood: 8 ohm at resonanceMounted on bicycle: 7.5 ohm at resonance Does it sound right ?
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how good is a rain gutter antenna
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* RAIN GUTTER ANTENNA on upper HF bands* * * *I've been experimenting with a variety of HF antennas here at my new QTH at Crosslands Retirement Community in Kennett Square, PA. * *I have some space limitations, but live on the first floor of a two-story apartment building.* *Lots of RFI from everywhere inside the building - S9 on 80m and 40m, less noise on 20 and 10m. * * * *I have a 140 ft end-fed wire with a 49:1 UNUN which tunes up easily on 80/40/20m and not so well on 17m/15m/10m.* *This end-fed is horizontal, low to the ground (winds among trees) and is good for high-angle NVIS radiation on 80/40m.* *I use it on the PA NBEMS net (3583 kHz) and on the Mid-Atlantic NBEMS net (7068 kHz) * * * * * *I'd like to get up something with a _low-angle_ signal for DX on 20/17/10m bands. * *But can I keep any HF antenna "hidden"?* * * *What I am now trying is the aluminum _rain gutter_ for our building, vertical for about 20 ft, makes a right angle turn and runs horizontally for about 20 ft.* *The coax attaches at the base of the gutter, near ground, to a 9:1 UNUN with a sheet metal screw into the gutter for a decent electrical connection. * * * *So overall, about 40 ft of thick (painted) aluminum gutter radiating element - in the shape of an inverted L and not resonant on any ham band.* *Lowest SWR around 16 MHz. It looks like it might work out on the 30m band as well (10.1 MHz). * *I have a Palomar Engineering (500W rating) 9:1 UNUN on 50 ft RG8X coax into the shack (closet).* *I have one counterpoise wire about 20 ft long attached to the UNUN ground terminal.* *Then a good manual tuner in the shack to an HF rig for very low SWR on any band. * * * *Here is what I see on my Nano VNA from 10 - 30 MHz: not bad SWR (under 2.5:1) in the shack on 20/17/15/10 meters.* *I'll give it a try over the next few weeks and see if the local noise is more/less on these bands, compared to my 140 ft end-fed.* * * *I'm often running QRP on these bands, CW and digi modes only. * * * *de k3eui barry*
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Sysjoint SV4401A nanoVNA
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So i bought one of these on Amazon (SV4401A). They're $150 less on Ali Express, but i don't entirely trust Ali Express -- i've been burned twice by them. The last "burn" was $24 worth of fake coax. Not worth returning. Anyway, this SV4401A is great and does what it's supposed to do. BUT there are spelling errors on the main screen, unbelievable. On the main screen, bottom right, there is a 'button' labelled RUNING instead of RUNNING. There was another typo as well, but i can't find it at the moment. I guess that can be fixed with a firmware update. Best 73 Orrin WN1Z
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