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Re: Nanovna-H board upgrades

 

The v3.4 hardware is not that old (NanoVNA started with Chinese production in 3.0).
You can see more information on my website.
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: Red LED

 

OK we need absolute clarification from like the manufacturer or something here.

Mine NanoVNA-H4

First time I used it i did the charge before use. I was "Told" that when charging the red led will flash, and when fully charged, it will be a constant light. At least that is what I was "Told"

And that's how I have been using it from the first day. If I know I will need it, I will charge it first.

Connect to charge,,,
Light flashing,,,,,,,,,
ok steady light go and use it.

NOW,,? the thought of the light going out,? first question I have is OK what does flashing mean?

and two,, By accident, I connected it to get charged, and something came up and I was not able to do the test, and I forgot all about it being on the charger. Only to discover it like 4 days later with a solid red light on still.

I would think after 4 days of charging it would be done wouldn't you?

Joe

On 3/4/2022 4:23 PM, Tim Dawson wrote:
On mine, the red LED indicates charging, and it goes out when full.

- Tim

On March 4, 2022 4:00:30 PM CST, "Tom C. via groups.io"<uuhamfl@...> wrote:
I am a new owner of an Aursinc NanoVNA-H, HW Version 3.6
Charged it for 4 hours out of the box, but only RED LED solid.
Used it for 90 minutes matching mobile HF antenna; seems to work fine.
Now to charge it after use. Still getting only RED LED solid. (?)
Not sure about this indication or if it is charging.
Any ideas?





Nanovna-H4 / F - Very Large Font Firmware?

 

Hello,

Does anyone know if the jumbo font used in the latest 'H' firmware (for 2.8" devices) has made it into the 'H4' or 'F' firmware (for 4" display devices) - as of March 2022? See the attached image for reference

I've read through the firmware releases for H4 and F hardware variants but do not see any mention of a jumbo font being included.



There was talk of this in 2020 here: /g/nanovna-users/topic/74430800
And again in 2021 here:/g/nanovna-users/message/25619

Aware that there are 'AA' firmware versions available but these do not seem to use the Jumbo font shown.

Thanks.


Nanovna-H board upgrades

 

I have one of the older -H version 3.4
I was wondering if anyone has ever done a component-level upgrade of the board to the latest hardware version, or if a change log of sorts exists?


Re: Red LED

 

On mine, the red LED indicates charging, and it goes out when full.

- Tim

On March 4, 2022 4:00:30 PM CST, "Tom C. via groups.io" <uuhamfl@...> wrote:
I am a new owner of an Aursinc NanoVNA-H, HW Version 3.6
Charged it for 4 hours out of the box, but only RED LED solid.
Used it for 90 minutes matching mobile HF antenna; seems to work fine.
Now to charge it after use. Still getting only RED LED solid. (?)
Not sure about this indication or if it is charging.
Any ideas?




--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


Re: Software

 

Yes. The most recently released version is v1.1.0.
If you are interested in the details of firmware development, you can find a description on my website in pdf file or more on the forum wiki here.

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Gyula HA3HZ ()


Re: What is nanoVNA-D??

 

Yes. The hardware is NanoVNA-H by Hugen, while the firmware is NanoVNA-D by Dislord, which is suitable for operating -H to -H4.
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Gyula HA3HZ


Software

 

This may be a dumb question but it seems I have an older version of nanovna
that has 0.8.0 version, that is the last version of EDY555. Can I jump to
another tree? or if there is a newer version could you point me in the
right direction?

--
Clear Skies and
Keep Looking up
David Stansberry


What is nanoVNA-D??

 

Hi,

I am currently using DiSLords v1.0.69 on my nanoVNA H.

To keep up-to-date I looked around for the latest DiSlords software v1.1.00 and found the "NanoVNA.H.v1.1.00.dfu" file in the GitHub pages for "nanoVNA-D".
What is meaning of "-D" ???
Is this file suitable for my nanoVNA H???
--
Cheers,
Ian
Melbourne, Australia


Re: Question about Measurements in Smith.

 

--- On Monday, March 7, 2022, 12:31:57 PM EST, Antonio (EA7HJ) via groups.io <ea7hj@...> wrote:
I have always used the Smith's Chart with the standardized values
of the ¸é¦¸ +/- jXXX impedance. In the NanoVNA H4 the measurement
makes it as ¸é¦¸ + XnH or ¸é¦¸ - XpF. My question is how I can convert
the inductive/capacitive reactance of the impedance of NanoVNA to
the "j" value standardized in the Smith Chart.
For an inductor, Xl = j * omega * L
For a capacitor, Xc = 1 / (j * omega * C)

omega = 2 * pi * freq
j = sqrt(-1)

73,
Ken N8KH


Re: SOLVED - Question about Measurements in Smith.

 

Thank you very much to all.
Each one of you has made an interesting contribution for me.
Thanks again /EA7HJ - Antonio


Re: Question about Measurements in Smith.

 

Ditto. I really don't understand why the NANO's do not display real and
complex values for the impedance.

Jim, I just stick with basic units: Ohms, Hertz, Farads, and Henries.
Simply utilize the appropriate exponential notation and all is well in the
conversions.

But I'd still rather see the actual values in Ohms, be it real, +jX, or
-jX.

Dave - W?LEV

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:35 PM Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:

On 3/7/22 9:31 AM, Antonio (EA7HJ) via groups.io wrote:
Hi
I have always used the Smith's Chart with the standardized values of the
¸é¦¸ +/- jXXX impedance. In the NanoVNA H4 the measurement makes it as ¸é¦¸ +
XnH or ¸é¦¸ - XpF. My question is how I can convert the inductive/capacitive
reactance of the impedance of NanoVNA to the "j" value standardized in the
Smith Chart.


X = 2*pi*f*L

X = -1/(2*pi*f*C)

If L in nH and f in MHz, then X = 2E-3*pi*f(MHz) * L(nH)

if C in pF and f in MHz, then X = 1E6/(2*pi*f(MHz) * C(pF))







--
*Dave - W?LEV*
*Just Let Darwin Work*


Re: Question about Measurements in Smith.

 

Thanks for that reminder, Herb. In the latest V1.1 firmware, the smith
chart format is accessed in the menu tree under "Marker" / "Smith value".

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:04 AM hwalker <herbwalker2476@...> wrote:

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 09:31 AM, Antonio (EA7HJ) wrote:

"I have always used the Smith's Chart with the standardized values of the
¸é¦¸
+/- jXXX impedance. In the NanoVNA H4 the measurement makes it as ¸é¦¸ +
XnH or
¸é¦¸ - XpF. My question is how I can convert the inductive/capacitive
reactance
of the impedance of NanoVNA to the "j" value standardized in the Smith
Chart."


If you are using DiSlord's latest v1.1.01 FW then that format can be
selected under FORMAT->SMITH->R+jX (See attachment).


Herb






Re: Question about Measurements in Smith.

 

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 09:31 AM, Antonio (EA7HJ) wrote:

"I have always used the Smith's Chart with the standardized values of the ¸é¦¸
+/- jXXX impedance. In the NanoVNA H4 the measurement makes it as ¸é¦¸ + XnH or
¸é¦¸ - XpF. My question is how I can convert the inductive/capacitive reactance
of the impedance of NanoVNA to the "j" value standardized in the Smith Chart."


If you are using DiSlord's latest v1.1.01 FW then that format can be selected under FORMAT->SMITH->R+jX (See attachment).


Herb


Re: Question about Measurements in Smith.

 

To display the re/im directly on the nanovna screen, you can choose two
other traces, and format one of them for 'real' and one for 'imag'. Then
as you move your cursor across the smith chart display, you will see its
default R + C/L values, plus the real and imaginary values (and the linear
re/im traces will appear with the smith chart trace)

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 9:35 AM Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:

On 3/7/22 9:31 AM, Antonio (EA7HJ) via groups.io wrote:
Hi
I have always used the Smith's Chart with the standardized values of the
¸é¦¸ +/- jXXX impedance. In the NanoVNA H4 the measurement makes it as ¸é¦¸ +
XnH or ¸é¦¸ - XpF. My question is how I can convert the inductive/capacitive
reactance of the impedance of NanoVNA to the "j" value standardized in the
Smith Chart.


X = 2*pi*f*L

X = -1/(2*pi*f*C)

If L in nH and f in MHz, then X = 2E-3*pi*f(MHz) * L(nH)

if C in pF and f in MHz, then X = 1E6/(2*pi*f(MHz) * C(pF))








Re: Question about Measurements in Smith.

 

On 3/7/22 9:31 AM, Antonio (EA7HJ) via groups.io wrote:
Hi
I have always used the Smith's Chart with the standardized values of the ¸é¦¸ +/- jXXX impedance. In the NanoVNA H4 the measurement makes it as ¸é¦¸ + XnH or ¸é¦¸ - XpF. My question is how I can convert the inductive/capacitive reactance of the impedance of NanoVNA to the "j" value standardized in the Smith Chart.

X = 2*pi*f*L

X? = -1/(2*pi*f*C)

If L in nH and f in MHz, then X = 2E-3*pi*f(MHz) * L(nH)

if C in pF and f in MHz, then X = 1E6/(2*pi*f(MHz) * C(pF))


Question about Measurements in Smith.

 

Hi
I have always used the Smith's Chart with the standardized values of the ¸é¦¸ +/- jXXX impedance. In the NanoVNA H4 the measurement makes it as ¸é¦¸ + XnH or ¸é¦¸ - XpF. My question is how I can convert the inductive/capacitive reactance of the impedance of NanoVNA to the "j" value standardized in the Smith Chart.

Thanks in advance.
EA7HJj - Antonio


Re: "Zero calibration" (or "no calibration") question

 

Very good assessment, Roger. The 269 was designed during days when the PIC was king. While it does a lot of functions, it¡¯s not easy for the end-user to cal.

You Kits as a company can¡¯t keep any reliable production schedule, even before Covid-19 hit the supply chain. They only manufacture sporadically. (I¡¯ve been waiting fo over a year for their qrp watt meter to come back into stock.) That¡¯s why MFJ quit being their worldwide distributor.

RE has its own domestic issues right now so I won¡¯t comment there. Documentation is a weakness.

The SARK 110 device is useful, easy to cal and update firmware, but is very small physically.

Frank
K4FMH


Re: "Zero calibration" (or "no calibration") question

 

Roger,

Thank you for the detailed explanation. I and others appreciate the time you took to answer my question.

Dave K8WPE

David J. Wilcox¡¯s iPad

On Mar 5, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Roger Need via groups.io <sailtamarack@...> wrote:

?On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 02:57 AM, David Wilcox K8WPE wrote:


Can someone explain why my YouKits FG 01 and RigExpert A600 (and even my old
MJF 269) analyzers don¡¯t need calibration every time I use them compared to
the NanoVNA? What is the difference in the operating firmware or actual
operation?

In the ¡°old days¡± I never had to calibrate anything when tuning my
antennas with my GDO or noise bridge? Ha!
The NanoVNA is a two port Vector Network Analyzer that is capable of much better accuracy than any of the other devices you mentioned. It is also a more complicated instrument with more features. The best results are obtained when you calibrate for the range of interest because this creates a good reference plane and the best instrument calibration. However you could use the NanoVNA out-of-the box or by calibrating once for the widest frequency range and storing that in slot 0 for future measurements. You could then zoom to the frequency range of interest and get as good or better SWR and RL measurements than the other instruments you mentioned. For complex impedance measurements calibration is required for the best accuracy.

The devices you mentioned were calibrated at the factory and this is sufficient for making RL and SWR measurements. For complex impedance measurements they are not that accurate out-of-the box.

The MFJ 269 has a difficult calibration procedure that the user can perform and this will give better performance than the usual poor factory calibration. I know because I did my MFJ-259B which is an earlier version of the 269. Unfortunately the calibration is only done on the RF drivel level and the bridge resistors and does not do anything about the other sources of error in the device. The RL and SWR are acceptable on this device but the complex impedance is not great and you don't know the sign of the reactance.

I don't know about the YouKits FG 01 but I can tell you about the RigExpert RigExpert A600. It is a one port VNA and comes factory calibrated for the full frequency range and has this cal data stored in the instrument. However the device is capable of SOL calibration by the user and the manual states than this should be used for precise measurements. You can save the user cal data and switch between it and the factory default.

In this group we often see people questioning why the operation of the NanoVNA requires more effort and knowledge than Antenna Analyzers, GDO's and noise bridges that are also used for tuning antennas. The reason is that A VNA is a much more powerful instrument and requires more training and care in its use. Entry level VNA products cost thousand of $$ only a few years ago but the price has dropped to where hobbyists can purchase one. But just because it is low-cost does not mean that the skill level to use one properly has dropped as well.

These handy devices are handy to own, fun to use and worth the effort to learn how to use in my opinion.

Roger






Re: Nanovna-H4, looking for a case this will fit in.

 

I designed and 3D printed a case and sleeve. The design is free to use, copy, modify as you so wish.





John G7JMZ