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Re: NanoVNA-Saver Linux update procedure #tutorials

 

This seemed to work for me...

$ sudo python3.7 -m pip --no-cache-dir install .
Processing /home/nick/nanovna-saver-0.2.2
Requirement already satisfied: PyQt5 in /home/nick/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages (from NanoVNASaver==0.2.2)
Requirement already satisfied: numpy in /home/nick/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages (from NanoVNASaver==0.2.2)
Requirement already satisfied: pyserial in /home/nick/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages (from NanoVNASaver==0.2.2)
Requirement already satisfied: scipy in /home/nick/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages (from NanoVNASaver==0.2.2)
Requirement already satisfied: PyQt5_sip<13,>=4.19.19 in /home/nick/.local/lib/python3.7/site-packages (from PyQt5->NanoVNASaver==0.2.2)
Installing collected packages: NanoVNASaver
Found existing installation: NanoVNASaver 0.1.4
Uninstalling NanoVNASaver-0.1.4:
Successfully uninstalled NanoVNASaver-0.1.4
Running setup.py install for NanoVNASaver ... done
Successfully installed NanoVNASaver-0.2.2

To test properly I would need to uninstall all 5 dependencies.

It would be nice to understand what is going on here before I do that.


Re: 1/2 of TDR #tdr

 

There are now several new features. One seems to be scale for the delay. I have check this, so this may be no problem at all.


1/2 of TDR #tdr

 

I have some 32cm teflon coax with an open end. I see no TDR from NanoVNA but I see a proper TDR from NanoVna_saver 0.22. Frequency settings seem to matter with TDR too. My frequency range was 50k-500M at first and TDR wasn't right. I wish to see TDR from Nano, because it has delay in seconds and not in meters.
I just updated my VNA to 0.54.
I attached a screen capture of delay from Nano.


Re: NanoVNA-H Install Problem -- Needed Proper Printer Driver.

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 09:16 AM, Larry Rothman wrote:

I would definitely look the "next" time, and thanks, Larry.

Please remember folks - This info is all in the NanoVNA WIKI - link is at the
bottom of every email post...
Not really "all"...I had no clue that a missing driver was the problem: As a tech writer, a problem I encountered often when those who have a lot of experience leave out details needed by the less experienced. Interviewing the "Subject Mater Experts" often required several interviews to get to the meat of the requirements.

As a minimum, including a lead sentence or paragraph about when and why would be a help. Some key words included for searching too, e.g., Not connecting, missing drivers and etc.

Please refer to the Wiki and Files areas as they have a pile of very good reference material, posted by a number of forum members over the last 6 months. Cheers,Larry
On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 11:49:16 a.m. GMT-5, Chuck Carpenter
<w5usj@...> wrote:

My desk-top PC (laptop) has never had an external device connected to it.
Therefore no peripheral drivers have been installed. Might not be a problem in
general but it was with this old HP Win7 Pro.

When I attempted to connect the NanoVNA-H to the PC nothing happened!? Tried
a few things, posted some "need help" messages but nada.

Gyula Molnar, HA3HZ, came to my rescue.? He provided me with the information
and resources to find what was needed.

One source was STMicroelectroncs where I found and installed a version that
did the job. (VCP_V1.5.0_Setup_W7_x64_64bits.exe). SUCCESS!!

Nanovna-saver found the serial driver at COM4 and ran a scan using the
installed calibration (?) : Useless info as nothing was connected, but it
seemed to be working OK.? I've since connected a 4:1 Voltage BalUn, the input
to an adjusted ATU ( 50ohms?) and some filters of various configurations. The
BalUn looked really good scanned from 3.5 to 54 MHz.? I'll check it again
after doing the calibration. Not sure what the tuner results meant: Needs
further research...8^)

Many thanks to Gyula for the help; I'd have had no idea where to look for the
needed driver**.? ST also has versions for W8 which were also downloaded with
the Zip file.? Maybe someone else would have a use for the info.? There are
2 versions each in the Zip file, W7 and W8, of 32 and 64 bits.

** I tried Microsoft but not much help, maybe because Win7 is not longer
supported.
--
Chuck, W5USJ



--
Chuck, W5USJ


Re: NanoVNA-Saver Linux update procedure #tutorials

 

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:04 PM Nick <g3vnc@...> wrote:

$ python3.7 -m pip install .
in your case try
$ sudo python3.7 -m pip install .

/Martin
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Re: NanoVNA-H Install Problem -- Needed Proper Printer Driver.

 

I second Larry's advice. There is a lot of invaluable information in the Wiki and Files sections that can save our members a lot of time and effort. This group members always seem to be willing to help with installation and new user questions, but a lot solutions have already been archived in the Wiki and Files sections.

- Herb


Re: NanoVNA-Saver Linux update procedure #tutorials

 

Using Linux Mint 19.3 amd64 here.

Built 0.2.2alpha successfully on 15.12.19 using the instructions here...



Upgraded LM19.2 to LM19.3 on 19.12.19.

Now all versions 0.2.2 going back to 0.1.5 will not build with the same errors as reported in this thread i.e.

$ python3.7 -m pip install .
Processing /home/nick/nanovna-saver-0.2.2
Collecting PyQt5 (from NanoVNASaver==0.2.2)
Using cached
...
buffer = _builtin_open(filename, 'rb')
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-build-danvcfgl/PyQt5/setup.py'
...
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/apt/__init__.py", line 23, in <module>
import apt_pkg
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'apt_pkg'

Original exception was:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
File "/usr/lib/python3.7/tokenize.py", line 447, in open
buffer = _builtin_open(filename, 'rb')
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-build-danvcfgl/PyQt5/setup.py'

----------------------------------------
Command "python setup.py egg_info" failed with error code 1 in /tmp/pip-build-danvcfgl/PyQt5/

Note that there are 2 errors. The first error can be produced by...

$ pip3 install PyQt5
Collecting PyQt5
Using cached
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
File "/usr/lib/python3.6/tokenize.py", line 452, in open
buffer = _builtin_open(filename, 'rb')
FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-build-zdfcvwzx/PyQt5/setup.py'

----------------------------------------
Command "python setup.py egg_info" failed with error code 1 in /tmp/pip-build-zdfcvwzx/PyQt5/

It seems to me...

- this is not a nanovna-saver problem
- something may have changed in PyQt5 since 15.12.19
- the upgrade from LM19.2 to LM19.3 may have broken something in the python3.7 installation.

However if I just do this into a clean directory...

$ git clone
$ python3.7 ./nanovna-saver/nanovna-saver.py

then nanovna-saver runs fine, with no "python3.7 -m pip install ."


Re: NanoVNA-Saver v0.2.2 #nanovna-saver

 

Hi Rune,

I still find some strange things in the marker handling? :

1) I did a 2 port calibration? from 10kHz to? 1400MHz (and pressed "apply")

2) I filled all 9 marker-bars with different frequencies from 1MHz to 1400MHz

3) Then I did a sweep with CH0 connected to CH1 by a +/-30 cm long? RG316 cable, that was still connected to the VNA after the through calibration.

4) After this, the markers 1 up to included 5 on the data field were filled with data, the markers 6 up to included 9? were EMPTY. !

5) Marker 4 its color was grey so the tekst above the data field did not show up on the gray background.

6) I tried to change the color, but marker 4 does not accept the new color . (I tried several others and they did)

7) The markers 3 and 4 original frequencies that were set were overwritten both with 100.616536MHz (I had set marker 5 , to 100MHz)

I hope this is of help for this great program.

Kind regards

Jos



Op 13-1-2020 om 17:30 schreef Rune Broberg:

Hi Leif,
they are in 0.2.2 - set up which marker data you want under "Display
settings".


Re: NanoVNA-H Install Problem -- Needed Proper Printer Driver.

 

Please remember folks - This info is all in the NanoVNA WIKI - link is at the bottom of every email post...
Please refer to the Wiki and Files areas as they have a pile of very good reference material, posted by a number of forum members over the last 6 months.
Cheers,Larry

On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 11:49:16 a.m. GMT-5, Chuck Carpenter <w5usj@...> wrote:

My desk-top PC (laptop) has never had an external device connected to it. Therefore no peripheral drivers have been installed. Might not be a problem in general but it was with this old HP Win7 Pro.

When I attempted to connect the NanoVNA-H to the PC nothing happened!? Tried a few things, posted some "need help" messages but nada.

Gyula Molnar, HA3HZ, came to my rescue.? He provided me with the information and resources to find what was needed.

One source was STMicroelectroncs where I found and installed a version that did the job. (VCP_V1.5.0_Setup_W7_x64_64bits.exe). SUCCESS!!

Nanovna-saver found the serial driver at COM4 and ran a scan using the installed calibration (?) : Useless info as nothing was connected, but it seemed to be working OK.? I've since connected a 4:1 Voltage BalUn, the input to an adjusted ATU ( 50ohms?) and some filters of various configurations. The BalUn looked really good scanned from 3.5 to 54 MHz.? I'll check it again after doing the calibration. Not sure what the tuner results meant: Needs further research...8^)

Many thanks to Gyula for the help; I'd have had no idea where to look for the needed driver**.? ST also has versions for W8 which were also downloaded with the Zip file.? Maybe someone else would have a use for the info.? There are 2 versions each in the Zip file, W7 and W8, of 32 and 64 bits.

** I tried Microsoft but not much help, maybe because Win7 is not longer supported.
--
Chuck, W5USJ


Re: How to find the right ferrite toroid for a receiving antenna balun?

 

Attached is the one I could convert to PDF. The other is standard jpg.

Dave - W?LEV

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 7:44 PM Keith <zl2tpq@...> wrote:

Hi David,
Is there any chance that you could convert the Word document to a PDF
which would allow the likes of myself to read it.
I don't want to buy a later version of MS Office than the one I use now.

Keith ZL2TPQ


------ Original Message ------
From: "David Eckhardt" <davearea51a@...>
To: "NANO VNA" <[email protected]>
Sent: 14/01/2020 7:06:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] How to find the right ferrite toroid for a
receiving antenna balun?

The attachments may be of some help. Generally, for HF, 43, 73 or 75
material is used.

Wind your transformer. Properly calibrate the VNA with SOL over the
frequency range of interest - no through is required as you need only a
one-port cal for the measurement. Connect one set of windings to the S11
port. Terminate the other set of windings with a 450-ohm non-inductive
resistor. Measure the side connected to the Port 0 (the S11 port). If
this is 'off scale' or hard to read, try a resistor value half that value.
The impedance transformation will be close to the 450-ohm termination read
with the lower value when 450-ohm terminates the transformer, but may be
easier to real. Things should end up on the right side of the Smith Chart
(the High-Z side).

Dave - W?LEV

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 4:09 PM <ohansmit@...> wrote:



This one covers various core materials.

Regards
Ohan, ZS1SCI



--

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*Just Let Darwin Work*
*Just Think*





--

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*Just Let Darwin Work*
*Just Think*


NanoVNA-H Install Problem -- Needed Proper Printer Driver.

 

My desk-top PC (laptop) has never had an external device connected to it. Therefore no peripheral drivers have been installed. Might not be a problem in general but it was with this old HP Win7 Pro.

When I attempted to connect the NanoVNA-H to the PC nothing happened! Tried a few things, posted some "need help" messages but nada.

Gyula Molnar, HA3HZ, came to my rescue. He provided me with the information and resources to find what was needed.

One source was STMicroelectroncs where I found and installed a version that did the job. (VCP_V1.5.0_Setup_W7_x64_64bits.exe). SUCCESS!!

Nanovna-saver found the serial driver at COM4 and ran a scan using the installed calibration (?) : Useless info as nothing was connected, but it seemed to be working OK. I've since connected a 4:1 Voltage BalUn, the input to an adjusted ATU ( 50ohms?) and some filters of various configurations. The BalUn looked really good scanned from 3.5 to 54 MHz. I'll check it again after doing the calibration. Not sure what the tuner results meant: Needs further research...8^)

Many thanks to Gyula for the help; I'd have had no idea where to look for the needed driver**. ST also has versions for W8 which were also downloaded with the Zip file. Maybe someone else would have a use for the info. There are 2 versions each in the Zip file, W7 and W8, of 32 and 64 bits.

** I tried Microsoft but not much help, maybe because Win7 is not longer supported.
--
Chuck, W5USJ


Re: Poor Manual

 

excellent thanks
Tom Sides KI7FTK
skype: Thomas Sides
4243 e. st Charles ave
Phx AZ 85042

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:39 PM <t.h.meier@...> wrote:

This Link is, in addition to my proposed PDF (G. Kraus) a more practical
oriented HowTo:


hth
Thomas




Re: How to find the right ferrite toroid for a receiving antenna balun?

 

6 dB insertion loss or more. Just what I've been waiting for... ;-)? said the old HF CW op.

(wow, what bandwidth...? nice job)

73

Arie PA3A

Op 14-1-2020 om 12:06 schreef Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd:


300 kHz to 67 GHz



Dave.


Re: How to find the right ferrite toroid for a receiving antenna balun?

 

Using an FT240-61 core I got good performance from 1.8 to 30MHz, with less than 0.5dB loss over most of the range up to 30MHz

Optimised with 6 trifilar turns of 18AWG silver plated stranded wire twisted together. PTFE insulation, 1.85mm outer dia (CPC part number CB10433) wound on FT240-61 core.

Should be good up to at least the 100w level

--
Regards,

Martin - G8JNJ


Re: NanoVNA-Saver Linux update procedure #tutorials

 

Rune,

You shouldn't have to necessarily run the program on Linux. We Linux users can do that for you. As long as you don't use some function in Python that is a Windows Only function, there shouldn't be too much problems debugging the program. Python should be able to handle the differences between Windows, Linux and Mac as long as you aren't trying to tap some special feature of Windows. It might also help if you listed a set of dependencies required by the program and the version of Python you're using.

I myself use Linux as my production PC. I haven't found anything I can't do on Linux that must be done on Windows except for some Windows Only applications which are not cross platform. With Microsoft sunsetting support of Windows 7 today (1/14), I suspect there will be many more converts to Linux given that there are millions of Windows PC's out there still in use.

With your insight into the program, just help us interpret the error messages and we'll debug the program. A great program even if I do have to run it on Windows for a while.

BruceN / K4TQL

--
*"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk"* -- Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)


Re: How to find the right ferrite toroid for a receiving antenna balun?

 

Hi

I have with great success made a "portable" 1:9 UNUN and choke solution into a small plastic box like in the picture. I use it for OZ0RF with my RFzero and it was also used by KH8/OZ1RH too. The blue banana socket is where the wire goes and the SO-239 is the counterpoise. The SO-239 can then be used fur a banana plug or spare coax when portable.

The 1:9 UNUN is an Amidon FT114-43 and the choke is an Amidon FT-114-177. I consulted J?rgen, OZ7TA, who has a solid background in designing broadband HF PA commercially. The FT-114 are big enough to handle 25 W even if the SWR is bad. The UNUN ferrite should provide the matching but not dampen the signal. On the other hand the choke ferrite's job is to dampen signals. Both across the desired bandwidth.

Bo


Re: How to find the right ferrite toroid for a receiving antenna balun?

GmailK4KV
 

I know engineers who spent many hours trying to find a material that would allow

160M through 6M on the same amplifier.? It is not easy!? As I remember, they settled on type 62.

If you are using hf try type 43.

If you can, get Jerry Sevick's book on the subject.

73

Glen K4KV

On 1/14/2020 06:06, Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 12:03, Gert Gremmen <cetest@...> wrote:

. It is
difficult to have more than 1:100 in frequency range for a non tuneable
balun, due to non-symmetries in windings and interconnects.

My 1 cents.....

Gert
300 kHz to 67 GHz



Dave.

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Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


Re: How to find the right ferrite toroid for a receiving antenna balun?

 

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 12:03, Gert Gremmen <cetest@...> wrote:

. It is
difficult to have more than 1:100 in frequency range for a non tuneable
balun, due to non-symmetries in windings and interconnects.

My 1 cents.....

Gert

300 kHz to 67 GHz



Dave.

--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


Re: White NanoVNA-H Install Problem Help

 

Gyula,

The PDF is a big help. After reading your previous message, I was scanning the book about NanoVNA via Kindle. Near the end of the book (?) I found a reference to the need for a printer driver; Needed before you could run the VNA to do the things previously described in the book... ;-)

Ah-hA, now I remember. Seems we did that in the early days before most software auto-installed what it needed.

The book made reference to a driver called PuTTY; so I found it and installed it, ran it, but novavna-saver didn't find it! Decided not to pursue it.

Next, I downloaded the ST 32bit driver from your PDF. Installation failed as my PC required a 64bit version. Found an updated version on the STMicroelectronics site and installed it. (VCP_V1.5.0_Setup_W7_x64_64bits.exe). SUCCESS!!

Nanovna-saver found it at COM4 and ran a scan: Useless info as nothing was connected, but it seems to be working now.

Many thanks for your help; I'd have had no idea where to look for the needed driver**. ST also has versions for W8 which were also downloaded. Maybe someone else would have a use for the info. There are 2 versions each in the Zip file, W7 and W8, of 32 and 64 bits.

Again my thanks and Best Regards.

**I tried the Microsoft site but not much help, maybe because Win7 is no longer supported.


Re: Poor Manual

 

I downloaded the kindle manual on my PC...
but I find it very very annoying to read and consult the e-book...probably because I'm a dinosaur, more used to leafing through a book than reading a PC screen...
it would be better to have at least a .pdf printable file...

i2NDT Claudio