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Re: cable extensions etc.

 

+1 for W5SWL.

73,

Gordon KF5JWL

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 8:30 PM Jim Shorney <jimNU0C@...> wrote:


W5SWL. Excellent vendor, I have bought from him several times. He sells
direct or eBay.



73


-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 20:00:58 -0400
"Gary Lee" <kb9zuv@...> wrote:

looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma
connectors on the nano. good build quality is more important than price to
me. its hard to judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being
totally blind, I cannot see their pics or graphs.

Thank you for your assistance.











Re: stand for the NanoVNA???

 

4 inch is a good compromize

be it saa2n, v2plus4, litevna 64 or the new vna6k

for bench use i like the idea of the 7 inch

dg9bfc sigi


Am 02.09.2022 um 03:57 schrieb Clyde Lambert:

The down side is the larger the VNA the less it is portable.
The original was designed so one could slip it in a shirt or pants pocket. Making it usable on a roof or tower. If you are using it in a shop or Shack, you could have one the size of my 82 inch TV. All though I could feed the video out of my laptop to the TV.
I myself, even at 78 and needing reading glasses, wanted one for what it was originally designed for.
That is, conveniently portable.
So each their own.
I wouldn't buy a duce and half for what a light weight pickup could due.
Just my 2 cents.
Clyde KC7BJE




Re: cable extensions etc.

 

Tell him! Except for a couple I picked up at a hamfest, I have purchased all of my adapters from him. Shipping is always fast and I get exactly what I ordered. Decent quality too. A USA seller and your money is going to a fellow ham.


73

-Jim
NUpC


On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 20:12:14 -0700
"Martin Glazer" <mglazer2014@...> wrote:

thats really a nice webpage

Martin

N6QLH

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 7:27 PM Ron <rs9591@...> wrote:

Thank you

Sent from Mail<> for Windows

From: Jim Shorney<mailto:jimNU0C@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 18:30
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] cable extensions etc.


W5SWL. Excellent vendor, I have bought from him several times. He sells
direct or eBay.



73


-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 20:00:58 -0400
"Gary Lee" <kb9zuv@...> wrote:

looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma
connectors on the nano. good build quality is more important than price to
me. its hard to judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being
totally blind, I cannot see their pics or graphs.

Thank you for your assistance.



















Re: cable extensions etc.

 

thats really a nice webpage

Martin

N6QLH

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 7:27 PM Ron <rs9591@...> wrote:

Thank you

Sent from Mail<> for Windows

From: Jim Shorney<mailto:jimNU0C@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 18:30
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] cable extensions etc.


W5SWL. Excellent vendor, I have bought from him several times. He sells
direct or eBay.



73


-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 20:00:58 -0400
"Gary Lee" <kb9zuv@...> wrote:

looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma
connectors on the nano. good build quality is more important than price to
me. its hard to judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being
totally blind, I cannot see their pics or graphs.

Thank you for your assistance.
















Re: cable extensions etc.

 

Thank you

Sent from Mail<> for Windows

From: Jim Shorney<mailto:jimNU0C@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 18:30
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] cable extensions etc.


W5SWL. Excellent vendor, I have bought from him several times. He sells direct or eBay.



73


-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 20:00:58 -0400
"Gary Lee" <kb9zuv@...> wrote:

looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma connectors on the nano. good build quality is more important than price to me. its hard to judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being totally blind, I cannot see their pics or graphs.

Thank you for your assistance.






Re: stand for the NanoVNA???

 

The down side is the larger the VNA the less it is portable.
The original was designed so one could slip it in a shirt or pants pocket. Making it usable on a roof or tower. If you are using it in a shop or Shack, you could have one the size of my 82 inch TV. All though I could feed the video out of my laptop to the TV.
I myself, even at 78 and needing reading glasses, wanted one for what it was originally designed for.
That is, conveniently portable.
So each their own.
I wouldn't buy a duce and half for what a light weight pickup could due.
Just my 2 cents.
Clyde KC7BJE


Re: cable extensions etc.

 

Hi Gary,

I recently purchased 6 pairs of these:



(I bought a set for each of several TinySA and NanoVNA devices.)

I have used them for 3 months and find them to be excellent. They are inexpensive, but not cheaply made.

Hope this helps.

Take care,

Larry
AC9OX


Re: cable extensions etc.

 

W5SWL. Excellent vendor, I have bought from him several times. He sells direct or eBay.



73


-Jim
NU0C

On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 20:00:58 -0400
"Gary Lee" <kb9zuv@...> wrote:

looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma connectors on the nano. good build quality is more important than price to me. its hard to judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being totally blind, I cannot see their pics or graphs.

Thank you for your assistance.






Re: cable extensions etc.

 

yes ... use the cheap ones ... and count them as "trow away" thingy

replace if contact becomes questionable

dg9bfc sigi

Am 02.09.2022 um 02:20 schrieb Roger Need via groups.io:

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 05:01 PM, Gary Lee wrote:

looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma connectors on
the nano. good build quality is more important than price to me. its hard to
judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being totally blind, I
cannot see their pics or graphs.
I use the Asian ones on eBay but if you want a brand name with industrial quality use Amphenol. Not cheap though...


Roger




Re: Antenna simulation result different from experiment with NanoVNA

 

exactly what i have done :-)

a bit of a problem problem may be that you have a staircase instead a diagonal line (finer resolution> finer steps) ... but ok i can live with that

you have to build a real antenna anyway and measure if it is like your model (and maybe find a correction factor) ... but at least it gets you close

yes that was a simple patch (a tubular waveguide for 3cm in centre acting as a BIIIIG ground via) and we have dozens of real world users of this superb circular patch antenna on qo100

use as uplink on qo100 (and a "normal" lnb used for 3cm downlink inside that waveguide)

clever solution for circular tx on 13cm and linear receive on 3cm

in the picture you see a patch i made for simon (sdr console) ... ontop of the patch some flat rings soldered on to lower sidelobes a bit but thats optional and only for cf dishes around f/d 0.4

this one optimized for 0.42

dg9bfc sigi


Am 02.09.2022 um 00:44 schrieb Jim Lux:

On 9/1/22 12:35 PM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
sonnet works superb and is quite easy to use ;-)

see picture (circular polarized patch ... a square with truncated corners)

dg9bfc sigi

many thanks for making that list of the free eda soft ... maybe i will try one or two of them (BESIDES SONNET)

And I think Sonnet Lite (the student/free) version will do simple patches. The limitation is in how big a model you can build.? If you give them your name, etc., the free version will have increased memory, etc.




Am 01.09.2022 um 16:42 schrieb Jim Lux:
On 9/1/22 6:21 AM, Gary W9TD wrote:
EZNEC is now free.

EZNEC as a Method of Moments code that is derived from NEC is really a "wire" modeling code and doesn't do patches very well.

One can "grid" a patch, and put it over ground with soil properties set to match the substrate, but it doesn't have a way to do the ground plane on the other side of the substrate. (well, in NEC4 you could bury a grid of wires)).

NEC based codes will not do the matching sections or transmission line.


What the OP needs is a low cost tool that is designed for microstrip patches.

Ancient, but maybe PUFF (an early microwave circuit modeling package) would work?

At work we use HFSS, but that's sort of the antithesis of free.

I'd start with the list here:



Sonnet has a student version














Re: cable extensions etc.

 

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 05:01 PM, Gary Lee wrote:


looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma connectors on
the nano. good build quality is more important than price to me. its hard to
judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being totally blind, I
cannot see their pics or graphs.
I use the Asian ones on eBay but if you want a brand name with industrial quality use Amphenol. Not cheap though...


Roger


Re: cable extensions etc.

 

Likewise. Looking for good quality SMA Connector Savers.
I agree with Gary, very hard to judge online.

Regards...Bob VK2ZRE

On 2/09/2022 10:00 am, Gary Lee wrote:
looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma connectors on the nano. good build quality is more important than price to me. its hard to judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being totally blind, I cannot see their pics or graphs.

Thank you for your assistance.





cable extensions etc.

 

looking for some recommendations for good extensions for the sma connectors on the nano. good build quality is more important than price to me. its hard to judge online ads as they all claim to be good, and being totally blind, I cannot see their pics or graphs.

Thank you for your assistance.


Re: Antenna simulation result different from experiment with NanoVNA

 

On 9/1/22 12:35 PM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
sonnet works superb and is quite easy to use ;-)
see picture (circular polarized patch ... a square with truncated corners)
dg9bfc sigi
many thanks for making that list of the free eda soft ... maybe i will try one or two of them (BESIDES SONNET)
And I think Sonnet Lite (the student/free) version will do simple patches. The limitation is in how big a model you can build. If you give them your name, etc., the free version will have increased memory, etc.




Am 01.09.2022 um 16:42 schrieb Jim Lux:
On 9/1/22 6:21 AM, Gary W9TD wrote:
EZNEC is now free.

EZNEC as a Method of Moments code that is derived from NEC is really a "wire" modeling code and doesn't do patches very well.

One can "grid" a patch, and put it over ground with soil properties set to match the substrate, but it doesn't have a way to do the ground plane on the other side of the substrate. (well, in NEC4 you could bury a grid of wires)).

NEC based codes will not do the matching sections or transmission line.


What the OP needs is a low cost tool that is designed for microstrip patches.

Ancient, but maybe PUFF (an early microwave circuit modeling package) would work?

At work we use HFSS, but that's sort of the antithesis of free.

I'd start with the list here:



Sonnet has a student version








Re: stand for the NanoVNA???

 

No, standard battery lasts long enough for my purposes. Anyway, I mainly use it with nanoVNA Saver.

Michael.

On 01/09/2022 21:53, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
i would have used n sockets ;-) ... but i have a v2 that goes way higher in frequency as the older nanovna

but ok ... nice work

do you have a bigger battery also or a second one soldered in parallel?? (wire bridges will do fine)

dg9bfc sigi

Am 01.09.2022 um 22:14 schrieb Michael:

The following is a copy of my post of 30th August 2021 which illustrates my solution to the enclosure/connector issues:

The attached pictures show my solution to the SMA issue.

1) BNCs match all my other test gear removing the need for adapters
when interfacing. Indeed BNCs are the standard connector used for
professional test gear up to a few, GHz. (Perhaps 10GHz - Have to
check that).
2) Any risk of straining the SMA attachment point to the PCB is
eliminated.
3) The additional weight of the enclosure reduces the risk of the
nanoVNA being dragged off the workbench by the attached cables.
4) The aluminium enclosure adds a measure of screening - probably a
marginal. benefit.
5) The number of connection cycles permissible with BNCs while not
infinite, is far, far greater than the the very small number of
connection cycles specified for SMAs (in the hundreds if I remember
correctly).

The enclosure is made from extruded aluminium "U" section, readily available from eBay, with suitable apertures cut. I'm not sure that the reference planes for the BNC calibration pieces are perfect, but empirically, the results are the same as those obtained with the calibration devices supplied with the nanoVNA.

Michael. (GW7BBY/GB2MOP).



On 01/09/2022 20:40, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
IF YOU REALLY HIT THE USB CABLE THAT TINY 2.8 INCH UNIT WILL FLY ACROSS THE ROOM HI HI

buy a 4 inch screen and print a bigger case maybe??

diSlord is experimenting with even bigger (7 inch) screens on the v2!!!

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 01.09.2022 um 16:09 schrieb n1evh via groups.io:
I recently purchased a NanoVNA (with a 2.8 inch screen). I was
wondering if anyone has designed/printed a stand for the
NanoVNA???

I'm looking for something that I can put the end of it into (so that
the SMA jacks are facing up)? so I can attach an SMA antenna
for an HT to it.

With a stand... I won't have to worry about the NanoVNA falling
over if the USB cable between my laptop or tablet gets hit or
moves (more of a problem if holding a tablet) and since it will
keep the NanoVNA from falling over... I won't have worry about
anything touching the antenna to affect the measurements.

Thanks,

Mike - N1EVH













Re: stand for the NanoVNA???

 

tooo big and it does not fit in your shirt pocket ... thats a down side ... grin

(sorry could not resist)

dg9bfc sigi

Am 01.09.2022 um 22:34 schrieb John:

Bigger screen begets a bigger case which begets more weight/stability which
begets a bigger battery which begets longer use time... where is the down
side??

John
VE7KKQ

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 12:51 PM Siegfried Jackstien <
siegfried.jackstien@...> wrote:

IF YOU REALLY HIT THE USB CABLE THAT TINY 2.8 INCH UNIT WILL FLY ACROSS
THE ROOM HI HI

buy a 4 inch screen and print a bigger case maybe??

diSlord is experimenting with even bigger (7 inch) screens on the v2!!!

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 01.09.2022 um 16:09 schrieb n1evh via groups.io:
I recently purchased a NanoVNA (with a 2.8 inch screen). I was
wondering if anyone has designed/printed a stand for the
NanoVNA???

I'm looking for something that I can put the end of it into (so that
the SMA jacks are facing up) so I can attach an SMA antenna
for an HT to it.

With a stand... I won't have to worry about the NanoVNA falling
over if the USB cable between my laptop or tablet gets hit or
moves (more of a problem if holding a tablet) and since it will
keep the NanoVNA from falling over... I won't have worry about
anything touching the antenna to affect the measurements.

Thanks,

Mike - N1EVH









Re: stand for the NanoVNA???

 

i would have used n sockets ;-) ... but i have a v2 that goes way higher in frequency as the older nanovna

but ok ... nice work

do you have a bigger battery also or a second one soldered in parallel?? (wire bridges will do fine)

dg9bfc sigi

Am 01.09.2022 um 22:14 schrieb Michael:


The following is a copy of my post of 30th August 2021 which illustrates my solution to the enclosure/connector issues:

The attached pictures show my solution to the SMA issue.

1) BNCs match all my other test gear removing the need for adapters
when interfacing. Indeed BNCs are the standard connector used for
professional test gear up to a few, GHz. (Perhaps 10GHz - Have to
check that).
2) Any risk of straining the SMA attachment point to the PCB is
eliminated.
3) The additional weight of the enclosure reduces the risk of the
nanoVNA being dragged off the workbench by the attached cables.
4) The aluminium enclosure adds a measure of screening - probably a
marginal. benefit.
5) The number of connection cycles permissible with BNCs while not
infinite, is far, far greater than the the very small number of
connection cycles specified for SMAs (in the hundreds if I remember
correctly).

The enclosure is made from extruded aluminium "U" section, readily available from eBay, with suitable apertures cut. I'm not sure that the reference planes for the BNC calibration pieces are perfect, but empirically, the results are the same as those obtained with the calibration devices supplied with the nanoVNA.

Michael. (GW7BBY/GB2MOP).



On 01/09/2022 20:40, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
IF YOU REALLY HIT THE USB CABLE THAT TINY 2.8 INCH UNIT WILL FLY ACROSS THE ROOM HI HI

buy a 4 inch screen and print a bigger case maybe??

diSlord is experimenting with even bigger (7 inch) screens on the v2!!!

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 01.09.2022 um 16:09 schrieb n1evh via groups.io:
I recently purchased a NanoVNA (with a 2.8 inch screen). I was
wondering if anyone has designed/printed a stand for the
NanoVNA???

I'm looking for something that I can put the end of it into (so that
the SMA jacks are facing up)? so I can attach an SMA antenna
for an HT to it.

With a stand... I won't have to worry about the NanoVNA falling
over if the USB cable between my laptop or tablet gets hit or
moves (more of a problem if holding a tablet) and since it will
keep the NanoVNA from falling over... I won't have worry about
anything touching the antenna to affect the measurements.

Thanks,

Mike - N1EVH










Re: stand for the NanoVNA???

 

and no reading glasses needed anymore ... grin

dg9bfc sigi

ps i already told to "diSlord" that you can hide half a dozen or more 18650 cells behind a 7 inch screen ... yes he is working on fw for 7 inch!!!!

Am 01.09.2022 um 22:34 schrieb John:

Bigger screen begets a bigger case which begets more weight/stability which
begets a bigger battery which begets longer use time... where is the down
side??

John
VE7KKQ

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 12:51 PM Siegfried Jackstien <
siegfried.jackstien@...> wrote:

IF YOU REALLY HIT THE USB CABLE THAT TINY 2.8 INCH UNIT WILL FLY ACROSS
THE ROOM HI HI

buy a 4 inch screen and print a bigger case maybe??

diSlord is experimenting with even bigger (7 inch) screens on the v2!!!

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 01.09.2022 um 16:09 schrieb n1evh via groups.io:
I recently purchased a NanoVNA (with a 2.8 inch screen). I was
wondering if anyone has designed/printed a stand for the
NanoVNA???

I'm looking for something that I can put the end of it into (so that
the SMA jacks are facing up) so I can attach an SMA antenna
for an HT to it.

With a stand... I won't have to worry about the NanoVNA falling
over if the USB cable between my laptop or tablet gets hit or
moves (more of a problem if holding a tablet) and since it will
keep the NanoVNA from falling over... I won't have worry about
anything touching the antenna to affect the measurements.

Thanks,

Mike - N1EVH









Re: stand for the NanoVNA???

 

Bigger screen begets a bigger case which begets more weight/stability which
begets a bigger battery which begets longer use time... where is the down
side??

John
VE7KKQ

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 12:51 PM Siegfried Jackstien <
siegfried.jackstien@...> wrote:

IF YOU REALLY HIT THE USB CABLE THAT TINY 2.8 INCH UNIT WILL FLY ACROSS
THE ROOM HI HI

buy a 4 inch screen and print a bigger case maybe??

diSlord is experimenting with even bigger (7 inch) screens on the v2!!!

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 01.09.2022 um 16:09 schrieb n1evh via groups.io:
I recently purchased a NanoVNA (with a 2.8 inch screen). I was
wondering if anyone has designed/printed a stand for the
NanoVNA???

I'm looking for something that I can put the end of it into (so that
the SMA jacks are facing up) so I can attach an SMA antenna
for an HT to it.

With a stand... I won't have to worry about the NanoVNA falling
over if the USB cable between my laptop or tablet gets hit or
moves (more of a problem if holding a tablet) and since it will
keep the NanoVNA from falling over... I won't have worry about
anything touching the antenna to affect the measurements.

Thanks,

Mike - N1EVH









Re: stand for the NanoVNA???

 

The following is a copy of my post of 30th August 2021 which illustrates my solution to the enclosure/connector issues:

The attached pictures show my solution to the SMA issue.

1) BNCs match all my other test gear removing the need for adapters
when interfacing. Indeed BNCs are the standard connector used for
professional test gear up to a few, GHz. (Perhaps 10GHz - Have to
check that).
2) Any risk of straining the SMA attachment point to the PCB is
eliminated.
3) The additional weight of the enclosure reduces the risk of the
nanoVNA being dragged off the workbench by the attached cables.
4) The aluminium enclosure adds a measure of screening - probably a
marginal. benefit.
5) The number of connection cycles permissible with BNCs while not
infinite, is far, far greater than the the very small number of
connection cycles specified for SMAs (in the hundreds if I remember
correctly).

The enclosure is made from extruded aluminium "U" section, readily available from eBay, with suitable apertures cut. I'm not sure that the reference planes for the BNC calibration pieces are perfect, but empirically, the results are the same as those obtained with the calibration devices supplied with the nanoVNA.

Michael. (GW7BBY/GB2MOP).

On 01/09/2022 20:40, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
IF YOU REALLY HIT THE USB CABLE THAT TINY 2.8 INCH UNIT WILL FLY ACROSS THE ROOM HI HI

buy a 4 inch screen and print a bigger case maybe??

diSlord is experimenting with even bigger (7 inch) screens on the v2!!!

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 01.09.2022 um 16:09 schrieb n1evh via groups.io:
I recently purchased a NanoVNA (with a 2.8 inch screen). I was
wondering if anyone has designed/printed a stand for the
NanoVNA???

I'm looking for something that I can put the end of it into (so that
the SMA jacks are facing up)? so I can attach an SMA antenna
for an HT to it.

With a stand... I won't have to worry about the NanoVNA falling
over if the USB cable between my laptop or tablet gets hit or
moves (more of a problem if holding a tablet) and since it will
keep the NanoVNA from falling over... I won't have worry about
anything touching the antenna to affect the measurements.

Thanks,

Mike - N1EVH