Re: SWR vs. Resonance
Owen Duffys blog owenduffy.net seems to be offline.
Message: "content no longer available"
it would be a great loss if his site remained closed.
regards
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Fred_M
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#39198
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Uhhhh ..... that level of accuracy is only true at one Altitude, Temperature, and Relative Humidity!
As they say, "Why be approximately correct when you can be precisely wrong?"
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KENT BRITAIN
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#39197
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Dave (W0LEV),
I climbed aircraft carrier masts in the 70's to tune antenna matching
boxes and told "bone-headed" acceptance engineers if they touched the
balancing biases in the radio room when the
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Mike C.
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#39196
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Don't buy a VNA of any sort, sounds good to me, what do you think. This
is accurate to .0000000000001%, close enough??
Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
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Mike C.
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#39195
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Re: 1.2.40 firmware
First, re-download the new firmware file, and make sure you get the one with H4 in the name.
Then use nanovna-app to load it.
The reason to re-download the file is two-fold: 1) to make sure you got
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Stan Dye
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#39194
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1.2.40 firmware
I've tried installing DiSlord firmware version 1.2.40 on my NanoVNA-H4,
but it seems to "brick it"? Going back to 1.2.29 works. Ideas as to why
1.2.40 doesn't work?? I've tried uploading it with
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Stan Gammons
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#39193
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Thanks, Jim Lux! This is why I routinely remind others on the groups to
which I subscribe and contribute that we, professionals, amateur radio
operators, non-professionals, service technicians, or
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W0LEV
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#39192
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Thanks. Useful information.
DaveD
KC0WJN
[email protected]> wrote:
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Dave Daniel
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#39191
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
I was thinking the GUM (Guide for Uncertainty of Measurements)
Uncertainty of Measurement Results from NIST ( https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Uncertainty/index.html )
physics.nist.gov (
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Jim Lux
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#39190
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Jim,
Do you refer to John Taylor's "An Introduction to Error of Analysis"?
That's the text that I used in college, and the photo on the cover is so
great that I have a framed poster of it on a wall
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Dave Daniel
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#39189
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Measuring resistance to 4 or 5 digits is challenging with good repeatability. What¡¯s the temperature coefficient of your unknown? What¡¯s the tempco of your measurement system.
And of course, the
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Jim Lux
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#39188
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
For anything above 1 GHz (radio astronomy), I use the SMA standards which
are rated to 20+ GHz. I have both the N and SMA HP cal kits.
Dave -
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W0LEV
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#39187
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Probably not 12. :)
But really, let¡¯s look at it.
Reflection coefficient is what? <0.005 or <0.0025?
Rho= (Z1-Z2)/(Z1+Z2)
So we¡¯re looking at about 3 or 4 digits, which is pretty good.
The
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Jim Lux
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#39186
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
Hi WW6X
HP 909 coax terminaison seems to be garanteed to 50 +/- 0.2 Ohm from DC to 2Ghz , and it costs more than twice NanoVNA's .
For HF band it should have better accuracy .
Some resistor meters
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Team-SIM SIM-Mode
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#39185
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
If one were to buy an HP 909C with ISO IEC 17025 Accredited certification (about $400 total), how many guaranteed decimal places would that have?
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ww6x
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ww6x
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#39184
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
?Indeed. Well, that¡¯s, what, 1 part in 1E12?
There are relatively few things one can measure to that kind of precision. In the Radio Science world, they measure the round trip delay of a radio
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Jim Lux
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#39183
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
The problem with that, of course, from a basic error analysis perspective,
is that any other values used in any equation using a value of Z? with 12
(or 14) significant figures will probably have
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Dave Daniel
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#39182
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
The impedance of free space is Z? = 376.730313412(59) ¦¸. I, for one, will not stand for any measurement with less accuracy.
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ww6x
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ww6x
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#39181
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
It is close enough for YOU. It is NOT close enough for everyone.
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Jerry, AI0K
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#39180
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Re: 1.2.40 strange displayed S11 Smith value
ER calibration allow compensate DUT impedance mismatch in S21 measurements
But on H4 not allow fix Port 2 impedance mismatch due to memory limits (need additional space)
On LiteVNA and V2 implemented
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DiSlord
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#39179
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