Hi Dean and everyone who gave an answer firstly thank you. Yes I am using Nano Saver on my laptop, yes I am aware of how to calibrate and the importance of measuring at the plane, yes I have made jigs and am aware of stray inductance and capacitance. Greg Messenger's videos seem to me to be the best way of using the nano vna to determine values but I don't seem to be able to replicate his menu settings and that is why I asked is Ver 1.2.27 different from earlier versions. All the videos on this subject are excellent but no one takes you through the menu steps to achieve the results.