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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance


 

It was a busy time. Papers galore.

In electrical engineering ( ) and telecommunications ( ) the *Chu¨CHarrington limit* or *Chu limit* sets a lower limit on the Q factor ( ) for a small radio antenna ( ). [1] ( ) The theorem was developed in several papers between 1948 and 1960 by Lan Jen Chu ( ) , [2] ( ) Harold Wheeler ( ) , [3] ( ) and later by Roger F. Harrington ( ). [4] ( ) The definition of a small antenna is one that can fit inside a sphere whose diameter is

(radius

) ¨C a little smaller than 1 ? 3 wavelength ( ) in its widest dimension. For a small antenna the Q is proportional to the reciprocal of the volume of a sphere ( ) that encloses it. In practice this means that there is a limit to the bandwidth of data that can be sent to and received from small antennas such as are used in mobile phones ( ).

More specifically, Chu established the limit on Q for a lossless antenna as

for a linear polarized ( ) antenna, where

is the radius of the smallest sphere containing the antenna and its current distribution and

is the wavenumber ( ). A circular polarized antenna can be half the size [5] ( ) (an extension of the theory of Chu by Harrington). [6] ( )


On Mar 4, 2024, at 8:26?PM, Jim Lux <jimlux@...> wrote:


? Harrington & Chu, but yes.

On Mar 4, 2024, at 7:52?PM, AG6CX <edwmccann@...> wrote:



?Didn¡¯t Chu - Wheeler nail this one?



Ed McCann

AG6CX

MSEE MIT








On Mar 4, 2024, at 7:47?PM, W0LEV <davearea51a@...> wrote:





?One of the exercises we had in grad school was to prove that a radiating


structure could be down-sized to 10% of its full and ideal size without


losing efficiency, all other parameters being equal. ?The devil is in the


details, "all other parameters being equal".





Dave - W?LEV







On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 2:46?AM Jim Lux <jimlux@...> wrote:







How you define efficiency? ?If there¡¯s no loss, then an infinitely small



antenna (a hertzian dipole, for instance) just has 1.5 dB gain over an



isotropic antenna. Small antennas have low radiation resistance, but that



only affects efficiency if there¡¯s loss.







For the run of the mill, nearly full sized, dipole, whether or not it¡¯s



resonant doesn¡¯t change the radiation resistance much, neither does it



change the loss resistance, so the efficiency doesn¡¯t change much.







What might change is the loss in the matching network or feedline.







The compact loop is notorious for having high loss because it has low



radiation resistance compared to loss resistance. ?As is a mobile whip on



40 meters and down - they¡¯re a tiny fraction of a wavelength, so the



radiation resistance is low.





On Mar 4, 2024, at 1:01?PM, W0LEV <davearea51a@...> wrote:









?QUOTE (Jim Lux): ?.....short antennas have a different pattern than full




size antenna, but their "efficiency" isn't intrinsically different).









Jim, if we address small tuned loops on transmit, the efficiency over a




dipole radiator is considerably less, in round numbers, -20 dB.









In the limit of a point radiator (if it could radiate) - a true isotropic




source, the efficiency is zip, zero.









Dave - W?LEV










On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:28?PM Jim Lux <jimlux@...> wrote:











This is using resonance as a choke, not resonance of the entire antenna.











You want your choke to be high Z, so that currents don't flow on the





outside of the coax.











As far as the antenna goes, if you can drive it or couple power to/from





it, whether it's resonant or not makes no difference on the performance.





(aside from any other length related issues - short antennas have a





different pattern than full size antenna, but their "efficiency" isn't





intrinsically different).

















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Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] where is the end fed natural resonance











But then ARRL Antenna book says resonance has no affect on antenna





performance. Hams like to operate antennas at or near resonance as





that&rsquo;s where drive point impedance is at its lowest value so





it&rsquo;s easier to match,





Ray























































































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