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Re: Is there a known ch0 input protection mod? #problem #nanovna


 

Hi Jim/Dave, I too have used these mini-circuits limiters, mostly the
ones in a higher range 20/30MHz to 3000 and 6000MHz on commercial SA's
observing multiple 6MHz wide QAM carrier systems with 10 to >100
carriers. Haven't observed any excessive third order IM (IP3). Of
course you have to be aware of the total power produced by the sum of
the carrier powers. Referencing the data sheet (attached) for this
particular limiter, the VSWR is pretty good with highs of 1.44 at
0.2MHz and 1.4 at 3K with mostly less than 1.1 between those
extremities.
The packaging is great, hardly larger that a normal SMA attenuator,
and at $49/ea ordered direct from mini-circuits, it won't break the
bank. Might be a good solution for those who would prefer not to do
surgery on their NanoVNA/TinySA circuit boards.

-----------------------------------------From: "Jim Lux"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Friday February 4 2022 3:50:39PM
Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Is there a known ch0 input protection
mod? #problem #nanovna

On 2/4/22 2:00 PM, W0LEV wrote:
> Device from MiniCircuits: VLM-33W-2W-S+
>
> URL:
/> >
> Rated from 0.200 through 3000 MHz in a 50-ohm system. It's marketed
as a
> spectrum analyzer protector.
>
> Dave - W?LEV

That looks like the ticket. One thing to check - if you put two
signals
in (with the sum of signals being < limiting threshold) is there any
IMD.

For NanoVNA, which is single frequency at a time, this would be ok,
but
for a spectrum analyzer or receiver protector, maybe not.

I suspect that this has one of the TVS parts we're talking about
inside,
but just in case it's just a diode or something, you want to check.
(It
is sold for protecting SAs, so it's probably not going to introduce
IMD,
but...)

> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 8:19 PM Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
> wrote:
>
>> On Friday 04 February 2022 07:43:31 am Michael wrote:
>>> Search on "How not to damage your NanoVNA when measuring SWR" in
>>> Youtube. Good video basically TVS + Back to Back diodes, series
resistor
>>> and good description of functions. Also applies to TinySA.
>>>
>>> Michael (GW7BBY/GB2MOP)
>> Good video, that. I wonder, though, how necessary that protection
>> network is if you make it a point to ground the cable to the
antenna to
>> discharge static buildup, and you don't plan to leave the Nano
connected?
>>
>>
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