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Re: nanoVNA Real Resistance Measurement Range


 

Hi Tom,

Did you know that if you are working with antennas (or whatever) close
to another characteristic impedance than 50 Ohms, you can just calibrate
with that value of load resistor?? The center of the Smith Chart is then
that resistance, and the chart is relative to that instead of 50 ohms.?
Divide values in the 50 ohm world by 50 and multiply by the new
resistance.? The bridge isn't tuned for the new resistance, but it still
works pretty well.

Rob

On 9/10/19 5:54 PM, Tom VA7TA via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Dave,

Yes I agree that the 20:1 VSWR impedance ratio for my 1K hi Z test is higher than for the 5 Ohm low R which is half that at 10:1 VSWR. I selected the values of my test loads based on the range of impedance I would like to have the ability to measure with a reasonable degree of accuracy. I never made up any loads for less than 5 Ohms as with typical antenna matching tasks one would not often run across the need to measure a load less than 5 Ohms. I guess there would be exceptions for example a short mobile whip where the radiation resistance is less than 5 Ohms. Of course the input Z of solid state RF power amplifiers might be another example where there would be need to measure very low Zs. I agree that if one were to try and measure a very low resistance load it would, as you point out, be also difficult. Series inductance and I suppose skin effect R could become significant factors.

I do think the need to measure high impedance loads is relatively more common for antenna building which I think is the most common application for the nanoVNA. For example a coaxial stub might be needed to match an end fed antenna. The use of 450 Ohm balanced line for feeding non resonant multiband wire antennas with VSWR exceeding 3:1 is not that uncommon. Most antenna feedpoints present a series impedance bucket curve that approaches 50 Ohms at resonance and off resonance the Z typically increases dramatically due to reactance. Thus 50 Ohms is more or less the minimum encountered in that case. My impression is that there is more of a real world need to have the ability to measure very hi Z loads than for measuring very low Zs. There are probably methods to measure hi Z loads using impedance step down techniques but much more convenient to be able to make the measurement directly.

My original intent was to raise awareness of the hi Z measurement difficulty at higher frequencies. I think if in the future parallel equivalent impedance data is provided by software/firmware that will be very helpful for those making hi Z measurements. In my case it would have given me a much better perspective. I would have become immediately aware that the real R value measurement was close and the problem was just due to parasitic shunt capacitance. But by just looking at the serial Z data I gained the false impression that the real R measurement accuracy had fallen off around 100 MHz when in fact with my nanoVNA it remains quite good up to 450 MHz - what a wonderful little instrument!

Best Regards,
Tom
VA7TA


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Rob Frohne, Ph.D. P.E.
E. F. Cross School of Engineering
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