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Re: SAA2N problem


 

Hi Dave
The charge only accumulates if it is connected to an antenna that is not a DC short.? ?i.e.? long wire, gama matched Yagi, 1/4 wave vertical etc.
Not a problem with a folded Dipole, loop, or the antenna has most balun designs.
We use to connect an NE-2 neon lamp across the coax connector to a long wire antenna.? ? ? ?Takes about 80 volts to light up an NE-2.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Brisk breeze when the humidity was low and that neon light would flash every few seconds.? ??
This is why most preamps have a 10K resistor across their inputs to bleed off that change.
OK, in the shack, but for outside antennas I would not connect my VNA's to an antenna that is not a DC short.
Kent WA5VJB? ?Antenna Editor CQ Magazine.

On Thursday, February 4, 2021, 02:56:03 PM CST, David Eckhardt <davearea51a@...> wrote:

A coaxial cable is a long cylindrical capacitor.? Being by design low loss,
it can accumulate and store a charge for quite some time.? When connecting
any longer piece of coaxial cable or other low-loss transmission line, I
always make it a habit before connecting it to anything expensive or valued
by pressing my finger across the end to discharge any accumulated charge.
Sometimes, there is nothing, but the first time you get 'bit', you will
become a believer.? Transmission charge is highly likely to accumulate
during a thunder storm, wind-blown dust orsand, and even snow fall.

Dave - W?LEV

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:27 PM schweppe <schweppe@...> wrote:

When looking at the front end of the nanovna you see a 10?F capacitor in
series with the MXD8641¨CSP4T Switch. This switch can resist 100V in
electrostatic discharge sensitivity testing (Machine Model). This test
is done with a loaded 200pF capacitor and a 0.5 ?H inductor in series.

A typical koaxcable (RG213 od RG58) with 100pF/m and 20m length will
have 20nF of capacitance. If this koax is loaded to 200V by
electrostatic, it will damage the MXD8641. Also if you measure an
outdoor antenna and there is electrostatic in the air, you may damage
your measuring equipment also.

It may be a good thing to protect your nanovna with ESD-diodes when
measuring long koaxcables and/or outdoor antennas.

73, DK5DN

Am 04.02.2021 um 10:30 schrieb Stephen Laurence:
Does this mean that a long length of coax can store/return dangerous (to
the vna) voltages, for example like a Tesla coil, or was the coax connected
to something at the other end?

Should we all be installing esd diodes to the port 1 input? Port 2
already has a 14db attenuator.? Is there a limit to the length we can
measure?

Steve L









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