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Re: Definition of resonance


 

You have the impedance looking into the feedline from the transmitter end, but now you are asking what the antenna is doing.
An arbitrary amount of feedline will rotate a point on the smith chart trace around the center by an arbitrary angle, easily turning most anything into a reactance of zero.
And that one point is only for one frequency, at other frequencies it gets rotated by a different amount, because the feedline is a different number of wavelengths long.
Somebody might be able to figure out what's going on, given an exact measurement of the length of your feedline and the velocity factor of the feedline.
Not me, at least not with an awful lot of head scratching.

A couple weeks ago we had a discussion about doing an O-S-L calibration through the feedline to calibrate that out.
This looks like an excellent example of why one would want to do that.
The smith chart will look far different when you do, and tell you much more about exactly what is going on at the antenna.

Jerry, KE7ER.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 01:38 PM, Torbj?rn Toreson wrote:


Thanks for the input so far. I should have mentioned that the antenna (total
length 16 meter) was connected in the middle with a 20 meter long RG58 cable.
The VNA was calibrated "standalone". This was intentional because I wanted to
see what values of impedance I would get at the feedpoint, i.e. the point to
connect to a tuner. I am quite aware that the measured values as shown in the
Smith-diagram are not the same as those at the antenna connection. But I am
still curious how to interpret the four points where reactance is zero,
possibly this could be an effect of the impedance transformation in the cable
at various frequencies? But nevertheless I have four points with zero
reactance in my system consisting of antenna plus cable, all at lower
frequency than could be anticipated with regard to the length of the antenna,
so can those four points be called resonance points of the system? I am not
interested of getting 50 ohm, only to interpret/understand the Smith-diagram
zero-reactance points.

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