Curiouser and Curiouser! I installed iOS 16.2 on my iPad (up from 16) and the TiVo app once again works. Best I can figure is there was some glitch in 16 that interfered with the TiVo app and either a gazillion users complained to Apple and they figured it out or TiVo informed Apple and they corrected it OR it was all happenstance. In any event, once again, I am a happy TiVo camper.
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On Dec 10, 2022, at 8:37 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer via groups.io <hejb44@...> wrote:
Tom,
Thanks.
But we can do it with my wife’s iPad - it’s really old and the TiVo app works on it - at least for now!
On Dec 10, 2022, at 6:22 PM, tom holloman <chubacha@...> wrote:
YouTube tv has unlimited recording
Tom
On Dec 10, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
?I was holding out for a jailbreak solution that you might find, but Apple has been squashing those options at every turn recently, so I’m not surprised you didn’t find any.
Sounds like you need to research another recording/streaming solution.
::-(
Jonathan
On Dec 10, 2022, at 6:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Jonathan,
I did google it and there doesn’t seem to be a way to install a lesser version of the iOS.
Thanks
On Dec 10, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote: Harry, that sounds like the responsibility of TiVo to make sure their app works with the latest versions of the Ones they have their app on.
I wouldn’t expect Apple to respond to such a request unless the developer could prove that the OS has a bug. They are the best bet to be able to convince Apple that there is something wrong.
I wouldn’t think there is an easy way to reinstall an old iOS, but you can google for it to see if someone has come up with a way.
Jonathan
On Dec 10, 2022, at 12:36 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
Greetings everyone. Hope you are enjoying the final month of 2022 and looking forward to the new year.
When I am away from home I use the TiVo app on my iPad to watch shows I have recorded on my TiVo at home. With the app I can download the shows to my iPad and then watch them at my leisure.
Recently iOS 16 showed up on my iOS devices (phone and iPad), so, unthinkingly, I installed it. Well, much to my chagrin, when I download programs from my TiVo to my iPad they will not play. I get an error message. I can still stream them, although when I connect my iPad to the TV the streaming is erratic and often just stops. Under iOS 15 I didn’t have these problems.
I contacted Apple and was told there was no way to reinstall iOS 15. I asked what if I wipe the iPad and start over and the advisor said that wouldn’t work.
We started to have a discussion about the TiVo app when the call was disconnected AND the advisor failed to call me back..
My iPad is two or three years old.
Have any of you tried to reinstall an older iOS on your iPad or iPhone?
If so how did you do it?
I haven’t yet had an opportunity to contact TiVo to see if they plan to update the app for iOS 16 compatibility but will do so soon.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks.
Harry
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Re: Awful crunchy sticky keys
Just to close things out, I did fix my mom's laptop keyboard. There are some notes for anyone wanting to do this in the future:
Following the video [1], I did manage to take all the keycaps off and clean things up. Cleaning the keycaps was simple: as the video said, just dump them in warm water, swirl them around for a little while, then put them on a towel and dry them off. Cleaning the butterfly switches took more effort. (They were gunky, too.) The video shows a quick brush with a toothbrush wetted with isopropyl alcohol. It took me more than a quick brush on multiple keys. I did figure out that you can test each butterfly switch to see if it is clean by pulling up (gently) on the butterfly switch with the toothpick, and seeing if it falls back down. If it eases itself down like it has a shock absorber, it needs more cleaning. You should also test the butterfly switches again after the isopropyl alcohol has dried, as the alcohol can act as a lubricant and give a false sense of success. You can also clean the joints in the butterfly switches by pulling them up (open) with the toothpick and then brushing the joints gently.
Also: putting the space bar and shift keys back was tricky and slow. All the rest were quick.
It took me roughly 3.5 hours to get the keyboard working well, but I was slow working on each first-time task, because breaking the keyboard would have been a disaster. Now I think I could do the job in 1.5 hours.
Cheers,
Bill
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On Dec 21, 2022, at 22:21, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
Here's something that didn't come up on the video.... It's impossible to shut of an M1 laptop. Apple has made it so that even shutting down the computer doesn't really shut it down. It fakes being shut off, and starts when the lid is opened and a key is touched. Really annoying and useless when trying to fix a keyboard.
All I can do, I guess, is try to drain the battery of the computer first. Of course, I cannot login to the computer to get onto some energy-wasting site (ahem, CBSSports), because the keys stick so badly, and I have to use a shift key in my password.
I'm really starting to think of Apple as an Italian Design company, where everything is so over-engineered and where form is far more important than function. Status is worth more than ability. Arrrgh.
Bill
not at all happy
On Dec 21, 2022, at 20:04, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
On Dec 21, 2022, at 18:38, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
You hope the liquid didn’t make it to the motherboard. If so, it’s time to buy a new computer. The computer works fine. The keys just crunch, are hard to press down, and stick. So... not sure that there are problems inside. Of course, maybe some could come up later.
If it is ONLY the keyboard affected, then the machine can be disassembled and the keyboard washed thoroughly with warm clean water. I have saved several corded keyboards by running them through a soapless, heatless dishwasher cycle. It is possible that something similar can be done with a laptop keyboard that is separated from its enclosure. Eek. I looked at some teardown videos, and they look really difficult. BUT, I did find a better video about getting the keycaps (and only the keycaps) off. I'll put it here, in case anyone else ever wants to look at it, and (possibly) comment back after buying some playing cards and toothpicks.
Bill
Jonathan
On Dec 21, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
Hi all,
My mom has a MBP 13" 2020 M1 laptop, on which she must've spilled something with sugar in it.
The keyboard is now a crunchy sticky mess, and nearly impossible to type on. (Typing makes loud crunching sounds, and both shift keys get stuck down and have to be pried back up much of the time.) [1]
When I searched around for how to clean up such a mess, all I could find was Apple's advice to blow air along the edges of the keys while holding the keyboard at a 70? angle. I did this once, and it seemed to have helped a little. Now things are awful, again, so I tried blasting air, again, to no avail.
I could take the computer to an Apple store/Apple authorized dealer, but my mom lives in East Nowhere, New Hampshire, and the nearest authorized Apple repair place is 1 1/2 hours away (seriously, I just looked it up ... the second-closest is 2 hours away).
Does anyone have experience removing the keys on a 'Magic Keyboard' [2]? Videos linked from iFixit make the keys look like rather delicate things to work on. If they are delicate, I'll puzzle out how to get the computer fixed without a zillion hours driving and waiting. Otherwise I feel like I should start popping the keycaps off and cleaning them.
Thanks for any advice,
Bill
[1] Worst of all is typing passwords, because the Gods of the Computer World usually won't let you see what is being typed. My mom obviously gets frustrated, and sometimes gets locked out of accounts.
[2] Magic as in 'possessed'
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Re: Awful crunchy sticky keys
Here's something that didn't come up on the video.... It's impossible to shut of an M1 laptop. Apple has made it so that even shutting down the computer doesn't really shut it down. It fakes being shut off, and starts when the lid is opened and a key is touched. Really annoying and useless when trying to fix a keyboard.
All I can do, I guess, is try to drain the battery of the computer first. Of course, I cannot login to the computer to get onto some energy-wasting site (ahem, CBSSports), because the keys stick so badly, and I have to use a shift key in my password.
I'm really starting to think of Apple as an Italian Design company, where everything is so over-engineered and where form is far more important than function. Status is worth more than ability. Arrrgh.
Bill
not at all happy
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On Dec 21, 2022, at 20:04, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
On Dec 21, 2022, at 18:38, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
You hope the liquid didn’t make it to the motherboard. If so, it’s time to buy a new computer. The computer works fine. The keys just crunch, are hard to press down, and stick. So... not sure that there are problems inside. Of course, maybe some could come up later.
If it is ONLY the keyboard affected, then the machine can be disassembled and the keyboard washed thoroughly with warm clean water. I have saved several corded keyboards by running them through a soapless, heatless dishwasher cycle. It is possible that something similar can be done with a laptop keyboard that is separated from its enclosure. Eek. I looked at some teardown videos, and they look really difficult. BUT, I did find a better video about getting the keycaps (and only the keycaps) off. I'll put it here, in case anyone else ever wants to look at it, and (possibly) comment back after buying some playing cards and toothpicks.
Bill
Jonathan
On Dec 21, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
Hi all,
My mom has a MBP 13" 2020 M1 laptop, on which she must've spilled something with sugar in it.
The keyboard is now a crunchy sticky mess, and nearly impossible to type on. (Typing makes loud crunching sounds, and both shift keys get stuck down and have to be pried back up much of the time.) [1]
When I searched around for how to clean up such a mess, all I could find was Apple's advice to blow air along the edges of the keys while holding the keyboard at a 70? angle. I did this once, and it seemed to have helped a little. Now things are awful, again, so I tried blasting air, again, to no avail.
I could take the computer to an Apple store/Apple authorized dealer, but my mom lives in East Nowhere, New Hampshire, and the nearest authorized Apple repair place is 1 1/2 hours away (seriously, I just looked it up ... the second-closest is 2 hours away).
Does anyone have experience removing the keys on a 'Magic Keyboard' [2]? Videos linked from iFixit make the keys look like rather delicate things to work on. If they are delicate, I'll puzzle out how to get the computer fixed without a zillion hours driving and waiting. Otherwise I feel like I should start popping the keycaps off and cleaning them.
Thanks for any advice,
Bill
[1] Worst of all is typing passwords, because the Gods of the Computer World usually won't let you see what is being typed. My mom obviously gets frustrated, and sometimes gets locked out of accounts.
[2] Magic as in 'possessed'
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Re: Awful crunchy sticky keys
Very interesting. Thanks Bill. Hope you get your mother’s computer fixed.
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On Dec 21, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
On Dec 21, 2022, at 18:38, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
You hope the liquid didn’t make it to the motherboard. If so, it’s time to buy a new computer. The computer works fine. The keys just crunch, are hard to press down, and stick. So... not sure that there are problems inside. Of course, maybe some could come up later.
If it is ONLY the keyboard affected, then the machine can be disassembled and the keyboard washed thoroughly with warm clean water. I have saved several corded keyboards by running them through a soapless, heatless dishwasher cycle. It is possible that something similar can be done with a laptop keyboard that is separated from its enclosure. Eek. I looked at some teardown videos, and they look really difficult. BUT, I did find a better video about getting the keycaps (and only the keycaps) off. I'll put it here, in case anyone else ever wants to look at it, and (possibly) comment back after buying some playing cards and toothpicks.
Bill
Jonathan
On Dec 21, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
Hi all,
My mom has a MBP 13" 2020 M1 laptop, on which she must've spilled something with sugar in it.
The keyboard is now a crunchy sticky mess, and nearly impossible to type on. (Typing makes loud crunching sounds, and both shift keys get stuck down and have to be pried back up much of the time.) [1]
When I searched around for how to clean up such a mess, all I could find was Apple's advice to blow air along the edges of the keys while holding the keyboard at a 70? angle. I did this once, and it seemed to have helped a little. Now things are awful, again, so I tried blasting air, again, to no avail.
I could take the computer to an Apple store/Apple authorized dealer, but my mom lives in East Nowhere, New Hampshire, and the nearest authorized Apple repair place is 1 1/2 hours away (seriously, I just looked it up ... the second-closest is 2 hours away).
Does anyone have experience removing the keys on a 'Magic Keyboard' [2]? Videos linked from iFixit make the keys look like rather delicate things to work on. If they are delicate, I'll puzzle out how to get the computer fixed without a zillion hours driving and waiting. Otherwise I feel like I should start popping the keycaps off and cleaning them.
Thanks for any advice,
Bill
[1] Worst of all is typing passwords, because the Gods of the Computer World usually won't let you see what is being typed. My mom obviously gets frustrated, and sometimes gets locked out of accounts.
[2] Magic as in 'possessed'
—
Jonathan Fletcher
Workplace Innovation Facilitator
Fletcher Data Consulting, LLC
A Claris Business Partner
jonathan@...
www.fletcherdata.com
502-509-7137
Kentuckiana’s FileMaker Developers Group
Next meeting: Tuesday, January 24th, 12:30 to 3:00-ish
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Re: Awful crunchy sticky keys
On Dec 21, 2022, at 18:38, Jonathan Fletcher <lists@...> wrote:
You hope the liquid didn’t make it to the motherboard. If so, it’s time to buy a new computer. The computer works fine. The keys just crunch, are hard to press down, and stick. So... not sure that there are problems inside. Of course, maybe some could come up later. If it is ONLY the keyboard affected, then the machine can be disassembled and the keyboard washed thoroughly with warm clean water. I have saved several corded keyboards by running them through a soapless, heatless dishwasher cycle. It is possible that something similar can be done with a laptop keyboard that is separated from its enclosure. Eek. I looked at some teardown videos, and they look really difficult. BUT, I did find a better video about getting the keycaps (and only the keycaps) off. I'll put it here, in case anyone else ever wants to look at it, and (possibly) comment back after buying some playing cards and toothpicks. Bill
Jonathan
On Dec 21, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
Hi all,
My mom has a MBP 13" 2020 M1 laptop, on which she must've spilled something with sugar in it.
The keyboard is now a crunchy sticky mess, and nearly impossible to type on. (Typing makes loud crunching sounds, and both shift keys get stuck down and have to be pried back up much of the time.) [1]
When I searched around for how to clean up such a mess, all I could find was Apple's advice to blow air along the edges of the keys while holding the keyboard at a 70? angle. I did this once, and it seemed to have helped a little. Now things are awful, again, so I tried blasting air, again, to no avail.
I could take the computer to an Apple store/Apple authorized dealer, but my mom lives in East Nowhere, New Hampshire, and the nearest authorized Apple repair place is 1 1/2 hours away (seriously, I just looked it up ... the second-closest is 2 hours away).
Does anyone have experience removing the keys on a 'Magic Keyboard' [2]? Videos linked from iFixit make the keys look like rather delicate things to work on. If they are delicate, I'll puzzle out how to get the computer fixed without a zillion hours driving and waiting. Otherwise I feel like I should start popping the keycaps off and cleaning them.
Thanks for any advice,
Bill
[1] Worst of all is typing passwords, because the Gods of the Computer World usually won't let you see what is being typed. My mom obviously gets frustrated, and sometimes gets locked out of accounts.
[2] Magic as in 'possessed'
—
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Workplace Innovation Facilitator
Fletcher Data Consulting, LLC
A Claris Business Partner
jonathan@...
www.fletcherdata.com
502-509-7137
Kentuckiana’s FileMaker Developers Group
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Re: Awful crunchy sticky keys
You hope the liquid didn’t make it to the motherboard. If so, it’s time to buy a new computer. If it is ONLY the keyboard affected, then the machine can be disassembled and the keyboard washed thoroughly with warm clean water. I have saved several corded keyboards by running them through a soapless, heatless dishwasher cycle. It is possible that something similar can be done with a laptop keyboard that is separated from its enclosure. Jonathan On Dec 21, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bill Rising via groups.io <brising@...> wrote:
Hi all,
My mom has a MBP 13" 2020 M1 laptop, on which she must've spilled something with sugar in it.
The keyboard is now a crunchy sticky mess, and nearly impossible to type on. (Typing makes loud crunching sounds, and both shift keys get stuck down and have to be pried back up much of the time.) [1]
When I searched around for how to clean up such a mess, all I could find was Apple's advice to blow air along the edges of the keys while holding the keyboard at a 70? angle. I did this once, and it seemed to have helped a little. Now things are awful, again, so I tried blasting air, again, to no avail.
I could take the computer to an Apple store/Apple authorized dealer, but my mom lives in East Nowhere, New Hampshire, and the nearest authorized Apple repair place is 1 1/2 hours away (seriously, I just looked it up ... the second-closest is 2 hours away).
Does anyone have experience removing the keys on a 'Magic Keyboard' [2]? Videos linked from iFixit make the keys look like rather delicate things to work on. If they are delicate, I'll puzzle out how to get the computer fixed without a zillion hours driving and waiting. Otherwise I feel like I should start popping the keycaps off and cleaning them.
Thanks for any advice,
Bill
[1] Worst of all is typing passwords, because the Gods of the Computer World usually won't let you see what is being typed. My mom obviously gets frustrated, and sometimes gets locked out of accounts.
[2] Magic as in 'possessed'
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Awful crunchy sticky keys
Hi all,
My mom has a MBP 13" 2020 M1 laptop, on which she must've spilled something with sugar in it.
The keyboard is now a crunchy sticky mess, and nearly impossible to type on. (Typing makes loud crunching sounds, and both shift keys get stuck down and have to be pried back up much of the time.) [1]
When I searched around for how to clean up such a mess, all I could find was Apple's advice to blow air along the edges of the keys while holding the keyboard at a 70? angle. I did this once, and it seemed to have helped a little. Now things are awful, again, so I tried blasting air, again, to no avail.
I could take the computer to an Apple store/Apple authorized dealer, but my mom lives in East Nowhere, New Hampshire, and the nearest authorized Apple repair place is 1 1/2 hours away (seriously, I just looked it up ... the second-closest is 2 hours away).
Does anyone have experience removing the keys on a 'Magic Keyboard' [2]? Videos linked from iFixit make the keys look like rather delicate things to work on. If they are delicate, I'll puzzle out how to get the computer fixed without a zillion hours driving and waiting. Otherwise I feel like I should start popping the keycaps off and cleaning them.
Thanks for any advice,
Bill
[1] Worst of all is typing passwords, because the Gods of the Computer World usually won't let you see what is being typed. My mom obviously gets frustrated, and sometimes gets locked out of accounts.
[2] Magic as in 'possessed'
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Problem was Mac didn’t communicate with keyboard. Plugged one in and got into disk utility. Had to partition had to extended as high Sierra doesn’t work with apfs.. sadly Apple help didn’t know that
On Dec 11, 2022, at 7:40 PM, tom holloman < chubacha@...> wrote: Get the below screen trying to start an erased Intel Mac. Holding command r does not boot into safe mode. Any ideas?
If ?-R, ?-?-R and ?-?-?-R at startup all fail it’s often because the machine can’t get on a network. In that case, I’d beg, borrow, or steal an external boot up disk.
L^2
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On Dec 11, 2022, at 7:40 PM, tom holloman <chubacha@...> wrote: Get the below screen trying to start an erased Intel Mac. Holding command r does not boot into safe mode. Any ideas?
If ?-R, ?-?-R and ?-?-?-R at startup all fail it’s often because the machine can’t get on a network. In that case, I’d beg, borrow, or steal an external boot up disk.
L^2
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You can call Apple support. They should be able to help you.
Also it is possible to connect the locked computer to another computer and have it show up as a hard drive on the second computer. I’m sorry but I don’t remember the steps to do this.?
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On Dec 12, 2022, at 12:43 PM, tom holloman <chubacha@...> wrote:
? no dice! Still opens locked. Its a 2011 model that i erased to give to grandkids. Somehow erasing the HD locked it. Guess im out of luck as i dont?keep?receipts that long. Tom On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 11:45 AM Brian ONeal < brian@...> wrote: Try internet recovery… Restart Mac. Press option +command +r
Brian
? Tom,
I had a computer that showed that symbol and it meant it was “locked.” ?Had to go to the Apple Store, show a receipt of purchase, etc. to get it unlocked.?
Dan On Dec 11, 2022, at 8:38 PM, tom holloman <chubacha@...> wrote:
?Nothing there works. No matter which keys I hold I get the circle with a line thru it? Tom On Dec 11, 2022, at 8:32 PM, Ed Wiser <ewiser@...> wrote:
? On Dec 11, 2022, at 8:18 PM, tom holloman <chubacha@...> wrote:
?There is no Apple menu. Just screen as shown On Dec 11, 2022, at 8:15 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <hejb44@...> wrote:
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