MLA-30+, the story continues!
#Small_receiving_loops_RX-only
I want to add this post to Martin's MLA-30 thread ( /g/loopantennas/topic/mla_30/34311042 ) , but it is locked. Hence, my starting this new topic.
I know the MLA-30+ has been done to
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biastee@...
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Hi Chavdar,
Thanks for the above clarification.?
I built my LZ1AQ prototypes with input LP filters after reading your remarks " This (filter) does not impair the amp performance. ?Without ?this
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biastee@...
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
About: Does the Norton measurement setup can be used to measure correctly the frequency response of the antenna factor of an active small loop wideband (low Zinput) amplifier?
To Mark AG5RT and Dan
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чавдар левков
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Chavdar,
No doubt it follows Faraday's law about induced current. Your effort has been design of? active small loop antenna with a flat frequency response.
We have to observe a number of conditions
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Raphael Wasserman
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
All,
Regarding Dave's question please see the created album titled Short Circuit Current of SMA.
Raphael
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Raphael Wasserman
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Photo Small-Magnetic-Loop-Antenna_0002.jpg uploaded
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The following photos have been uploaded to the Short Circuit Current for SMA ( /g/loopantennas/album?id=298140 ) photo album of the [email protected] group.
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Added photo album Short Circuit Current for SMA
#photo-notice
Raphael Wasserman <wassermanr46@...> added the photo album Short Circuit Current for SMA ( /g/loopantennas/album?id=298140 ) : Based on Chavdar Levkov's paper "Very Weak
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Dave,
Probably one of the best VNAs for the money?is the SDR-Kits?VNWA 3SE Automatic 2 Port VNA - N-Connector Version. I own 2 of them and use one almost every day. They have great support and there
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Everett N4CY
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Since I and many others are totally unaware of the origins or derivation of
that "formula", I believe the best path forward is to start over. Is
anyone aware of the origin or derivation of it?
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W0LEV
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
To Raphael,
1. The flat frequency response comes from two conditions ?- e..m.f . rises linearly with frequency (Faraday; this is not mathematiucal trick) ?and inductive Xl raises in the same manner.
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чавдар левков
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Raphael, I don't know.....I'm not smart enough to find "holes" in the numerical electromagnetics code.? I do know that there is no equation for any particular antenna configuration in the
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Dan Clementi
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Dan,
I think it is a doubtful conclusion, let's for sake of argument forget about any software simulations apps.
The loop in short mode current is closed with about 3 ohms load resistor and the
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Raphael Wasserman
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Added photo album Short Current Mode of Small Loop Antenna
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Raphael Wasserman <wassermanr46@...> added the photo album Short Current Mode of Small Loop Antenna ( /g/loopantennas/album?id=298122 ) : Chavdar Levkov's published
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
I don't think this supposition is correct.? In simulation of a short-circuited loop with ZERO ohmic resistance, we see that flat frequency response.? In my simple country engineer way of looking at
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Dan Clementi
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Done.? See folder HERE ( /g/loopantennas/files/One-meter%20circular%20loop%20excited%20by%20plane-wave ).
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Dan Clementi
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Dave,
This is a known difference between a magnetic antenna and electric antenna.
Raphael
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Raphael Wasserman
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
Hi Chavdar,
What bothers me in your published article https://www.lz1aq.signacor.com/docs/fa-eng/Weak_ ( https://www.lz.signacor.com/docs/fa-eng/Weak ) signals-mag_loop_engl.htm where using known
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Raphael Wasserman
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
And yet another interesting result: Look at below and above resonance.
With a dipole of 1/4-wavelength monopole when its short (physically) it's
capacitove. When long, it's inductive. Just the
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W0LEV
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
If anyone is interested I have a few unpopulated LZ1AQ boards, that take all leaded parts and 2N2222 transistors. If interested please contact me off list at everettsharp (at) aol com.
?Everett N4CY
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Everett N4CY
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Re: Steve ugly-build LZ1AQ using MPS2222 sweeps uploaded to Photos
All,
The mentioned here Chavdar's webpage represents correct equivalent model of small loop antenna that should be used in order to come up with a dummy aerial for loop antenna.
Raphael
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Raphael Wasserman
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