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Re: VLF question


 

Martin, great history document. Who would have thought that buried wire could actually have worked that well.

Thanks for the history lesson.

Fred

N4cla


On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 06:17 Martin - Southwest UK via <martin_ehrenfried=[email protected]> wrote:

I think the issues is how much contribution there is from the ground path vs, the interconnecting wire laid on the surface.
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Earth probes and amplifiers were extensively used during trench warfare in WWI, in order to eavesdrop on field telephones, that at the time used the earth as a return path for the single wire phone line. Twin wire was then introduced, and latterly the Fullerphone, with increasing development to further improve security.
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The earth itself is a lossy dielectric medium, but at VLF it's mainly resistive, the ground conductivity, and underlying geology having a major effect on propagation.
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50 or 60Hz mains "hum" and harmonics are a major issue, and extensive filtering is required to reduce their level.
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There has been some amateur experimentation at around 8kHz, and transatlantic communications, at a very low data rate has been achieved.
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Some interesting historical notes on underground VLF antennas, including loops, can be found here.
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Regards,
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Martin
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 09:54 AM, John E. Burgar wrote:
I have been meaning to try an earth probe antenna here for over a year. I wanted to make one about 500' long with each end terminated by 8' copper coated ground rods.

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