----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Hebert

To: loopantennas@...

Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:52 PM

Subject: [loopantennas] Re: Please add me back to the list

Ahhhh... BPL! Just say no! And file interference reports and more
interference reports and more interference reports... and mebbe even
drop a few cheap buzzers around the base of utility poles. Lean up
against them for hours calling "Breaker 19". Use them as convenient
hiding spots for foxhunt transmitters. Conduct a RACES exercise in
near proximity then file reports with CD authorities about all the
unwarranted and capricious interference.

BPL has to coexist with licensed services on a non-interfering basis
which it is not capable of doing therefore BPL has to go and so it
will. It's a bottom-line losing proposition for the utility companies.

73,

'Bear' NH7SR

--- In loopantennas@..., "Scott Savage KC7WDG"
wrote:
> *cough* BPL *cough*
>
>
> not wireless in a sense in all points of the system but its an RF
trash generator
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Hebert
> To: loopantennas@...
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:10 AM
> Subject: [loopantennas] Re: Please add me back to the list
>
>
> Wireless DSL??? First I've heard of that one. I would say that if
> you're hearing it on the FR-200 there's probably a Part 15
violation
> going on. It's probably being radiated from the telephone lines and
> may be due to an excessively high signal level. Wireless broadband
> devices (access points, routers and the like) should be
undetectable
> on the FR-200 since they're based at 2.4 GHz or higher.
>
> 73,
>
> 'Bear' NH7SR
>
> --- In
loopantennas@..., "Tom,webmaster,indigotalkradio"
> wrote:
> > Jim in Ontario and To whom it may concern:
> >
> > Please add my name back to the loop antennas
> > list.
> > As soon as I added another yahoo group I stopped
> > receiving messages from this list.
> >
> > As to the buzzing from 570kHz-1150kHz and
> > 3mHz-8mHz, Jim, thanks for the reply.
> > I just discovered yesterday that the wires at the
> > streetlight nearby had been vandalized, pulled
> > down, and cut, with water leaking into the entire
> > assembly. It is a electricution hazard and a fire
> > hazard.? That explains why other residents have
> > the problem and why it is worse in rain. It has
> > nmothing to do with DSL, thankfully! However, in
> > bicycling around with a grundig FR-200, there
> > definitely are problems with some people who have
> > wireless DSL covering several homes yet the
> > "pitch is much higher" and not a "buzzing."
> >
> > sincerely
> > -tom
> > --- Jim Dunstan <> wrote:
> >
> > > At 11:59 PM 8/10/04 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >Installation of DSL has caused terrible
> > > overnight
> > > >buzzing from the 500's to about 1000kHz.
> > > >
> > > >Phone company made adjustments at street and
> > > >house.
> > > >
> > > >Buzzing on portable radios re-radiated in
> > > vicinity
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > I'm sorry I am no help re your problem... but I
> > > will be reading the mail as
> > > I am curious about your EMI situation and the
> > > DSL installation.? Does your
> > > phone line come to your house via buried cable
> > > or is an overhead line from
> > > the pole?? I have a DSL installation at this
> > > location .... in fact the
> > > outlet for the DSL modem and the modem itself
> > > are located about 1 1/2 ft
> > > from my operating position ..... I experience
> > > no noise from it what so ever
> > > .... however, I will check a little more
> > > closely on the frequencies you
> > > mention.? By the way the phone line here comes
> > > in via a buried cable (6
> > > pairs) the local telephone company installed
> > > about 3 or 4 years ago.
> > >
> > > Now I did have some noise problem from the
> > > telephone installation about 2
> > > years ago.? The distribution within the house
> > > comes from the power
> > > panel.? That is they terminate the lines from
> > > outside and distribute lines
> > > within the house from that location.? At one
> > > point I had 4 lines terminated
> > > from outside and 5 cables going off to
> > > different locations within the
> > > house.? Over the years it became a rats nest of
> > > connections and
> > > wires.? Even when the phone company installed
> > > the new underground cable
> > > from the lane the rats nest remained.? Finally
> > > I couldn't stand it any more
> > > and I found a couple of 24 place barrier strips
> > > in the junk box and I
> > > mounted them on the wood backing of the power
> > > panel.? I then methodically
> > > terminated the incoming lines and the internal
> > > lines to the barrier
> > > strips.? I then drew up a schematic with the
> > > termination numbers.? I then
> > > cross connected the terminals to effect the
> > > desired distribution.? I used a
> > > 'LED' test tool to make sure the polarity of
> > > every line showed 'green' at
> > > every telephone jack.? Magically the noise
> > > stopped and the terminations
> > > really looked professional.? When they came to
> > > install the DSL service the
> > > installer was amazed at the setup .... 'this
> > > can't be our work' , he said!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Dunstan
> > > Thunder Bay, ON
> >
> >
> > =====
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> >
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