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Consider:

1)? The DC resistance of the loop is constant.? It's independent of frequency.? That's one of the distinguishing characteristics of pure resistance vs. reactance.

2)? The radiation resistance of the loop varies with frequency.? However, it is a very small fraction of an ohm, typically around 0.001 ohms (that's a mΩ or milliohm using proper abbreviations) or less.? This is what spoils tuned loops for efficiency.

The DC resistance of my 0.5-inch copper tubing loop of 36-inches diameter (circumference of 113.10-inches) can be calculated.? I measured 7.007 Amperes through the loop with a voltage drop across the loop of 46.3 mV (millivolts).? So the DC resistance is (Ohm's Law):

? ?? R = V / I = 0.0463 volts / 7.007 Amperes = 6.61 mΩ (6.61 milliohms) or 0.00661 ohms.? ?

Another measurement yielded 4.123 Amperes through the loop with a voltage drop across the loop of 29.5 mV (29.5 millivolts).? Once again:

? ?? R = V / I = 0.0295 volts / 4.123 Amperes = 7.17 mΩ (7.17 milliohms) or 0.00717 ohms.

And for statistical significance:? measured 1.60 Amperes through the loop with a voltage drop across the loop of 9.98 mV (9.98 milivolts) or 0.00998 volts.? Again:

???? R = V / I = 0.00998 volts / 1.60 Amperes = 6.24 mΩ (6.25 milliohms) or 0.00624 ohms.

The numerical average of these three readings is:

???? R AVG = [6.61 + 7.17 + 6.24] mV / 3 = 6.66 mΩ (6.67 milliohms) or 0.00667 ohms.

???? AVG R = [ 0.00661 + 0.00717] / 2 = 6.89 mΩ (6.89 milliohms) or 0.00689 ohms.

This compared to a radiation resistance of 0.001 (1 milliohm) or less ohms, I believe makes a reasonable first-order argument for constant current vs. frequency.

Now we need a good measurement of radiation resistance to validate this argument.? Using a VNA for such low resistances is challenging.? I'll think of something.? Any other ideas?

I could feed a known amount of RF energy and actually measure the current induced through the loop.? I have several home made current probes that I can easily calibrate.? Other ideas and/or techniques are welcome along with contributions of others in measuring various parameters of SMLs.? .?? .?? .?? Please?

Dave - W?LEV ??



On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 7:25?PM Dan Clementi via <dan=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 07:55 AM, чавдар левков wrote:
What wanders me is the fact that the current into the load is almost the same even at the point of the first 0.5 wavelength ?resonance .
I freely admit that I am just guessing here, but sometimes it helps to recall that an antenna conductor (all by itself) is a transmission line.? When a loop is open-circuited , there must be reflection from the impedance discontinuity at the open ends.? When completely closed, the reflection disappears, which must change the behavior.? ?A bit like the difference between standing-wave and traveling-wave antennas.
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I wonder....does this imply that an antenna model that is independent of load impedance is not possible?
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Dan - K3GMQ



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