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I thought that congress and the FCC directed that all HOAs cannot ban all antennas.?

Alan - W6ARH

On 10/24/2022 7:03 PM, John Perry wrote:

I've did it relatively successfully over the years and I've seen others do it that way as well. I know this much and I've had plenty of 2000 to 6000 mile contacts over the years using Magnetic Loops indoors at relatively low wattages under 100 watts. It can be done plus here in the states we have a lot of lightning prone areas where you might not want to have your mag loop outside and be able to use it in an attic or somewhere that isn't so conspicuous. One problem here in the United States is the increasingly influence of the local antenna police called HOA or commonly known as homeowner associations. Therefore there are many hams who cannot because of their local environment be able to put a funky looking loop outside even on their patio or some other place around their property even with them owning their property that they are still subject to HOA rules due to it being a requirement for such ownership of said property.?

Many Americans these days live in apartments as well and some of the restrictions that come with boilerplate leases and renting also involve restrictions on any outside antenna including anything that would be much more than the basic satellite dish of maximum of one meter or approximately 40 inches in diameter. Anything else is seriously prohibited in many rental agreements or even by landlords who do not want antennas visible in their properties. So therefore ham radio operators and shortwave enthusiasts often have to conceal these antennas from spying eyes or nosy neighbors or overbearing landlords, apartment police or such ne'er do wells that have nothing better to do than serve as the local auxiliary police force of the local apartment complex or the neighborhood due to the HOA.?

One can use these loops to receive signals from thousands of miles away with quite acceptable results like my reception daily of Radio New Zealand from 13000 kilometers or 8200 miles away with S9 plus signal on a daily basis just using a Yaesu FRG-100B receiver with a small 4 foot magnetic loop with quite good results. Then again I've also used magnetic loops to contact many stations in Europe and Russia which are both well over 4000 miles/7000 kilometers away in the case of Europe as well as much as 7000 miles/10000 kilometers away to Russia or even Japan which is 10000 km away or 6000-6500 miles away.?

I've also worked a little over 100 countries using indoor antenna such as a 200 foot longwire?ran around a ceiling and fed into a 9 to 1 balun for a number of years as well and also achieved a great deal of success with working long distance DX.? I'll take my results for now and when my situation changes in the future will probably be putting up something outdoors but for now what I have works. I might also add that I've also worked a great deal of these same countries with a mobile station in my automobile over many years as well including 6000 mile contacts to Russia on occasion when the conditions are right.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 11:21 AM Simon <ohhellnotagain@...> wrote:
Hi

Why anyone would want to put any antenna indoors especially a magloop is questionable ( or unavoidable.)

It will couple to everything..needs to be? outside..especially as 160m ( lots of electrical man made? noise.)

It can be hid though ( painted green etc) and can be close to gnd..obviously higher 2m? Is better, but it will work say at 1m? above gnd. JUST BE sure no one can touch it while txing!!

Simon




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