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I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the footprint: Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good. But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically very well and I have a supply.

SW_DP3T looks something like what you are asking form it's in the switch
lib.

Get used to making your own footprints and symbols it's one of the most
useful things you can do as it's a great time saver.

The way to go is find a symbol (or footprint) that's close, copy it,
rename and save in your own libs which you should be doing anyway, and
it's not a good idea to use the provided libs directly as you have no way
of knowing if an update has changed something. It's should not, bit it
can happen.

Andy



On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:53:09 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the
footprint:
Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good.
But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a
single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means
delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically
very well and I have a supply.

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Thanks, Andy. Yes, that's what I should be doing, but it's a big job to get started on. I'm trying to appease the alligators, before draining he swamp.

SW_DP3T looks something like what you are asking form it's in the switch
lib.

Get used to making your own footprints and symbols it's one of the most
useful things you can do as it's a great time saver.

The way to go is find a symbol (or footprint) that's close, copy it,
rename and save in your own libs which you should be doing anyway, and
it's not a good idea to use the provided libs directly as you have no way
of knowing if an update has changed something. It's should not, bit it
can happen.  

Andy



On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:53:09 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the 
footprint: 
Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good. 
But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a 
single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means 
delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically 
very well and I have a supply.

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Best wishes
John Woodgate, Rayleigh, Essex UK
Keep trying

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Yes, it does work, but 'Place all units' doesn't work. I had to find a work-around to get both poles into the schematic.

SW_DP3T looks something like what you are asking form it's in the switch
lib.

Get used to making your own footprints and symbols it's one of the most
useful things you can do as it's a great time saver.

The way to go is find a symbol (or footprint) that's close, copy it,
rename and save in your own libs which you should be doing anyway, and
it's not a good idea to use the provided libs directly as you have no way
of knowing if an update has changed something. It's should not, bit it
can happen.  

Andy



On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:53:09 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the 
footprint: 
Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good. 
But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a 
single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means 
delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically 
very well and I have a supply.

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John Woodgate, Rayleigh, Essex UK
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Place all units does work, but you have to be a little careful to avoid
"clickitis" :-)

in the circuit editor
add symbol

select switch / SW_DP3T

(here you can select either the entire unit, or each part, select the
entire unit SW_DP3T)

At the bottom of the selection window ensure that the place all units is
selected.

The next bit is where I think you might be going wrong

Select OK

the system is now ready to place the units. It will ONLY place one unit
at a time, not all in one go.

So move to where you want to place the first unit and click ONCE

Move to where you want the second unit and click ONCE

For a two unit symbol such as this that's it all done, but if it was a
4,6,8 or whatever part unit you would need to repeat the placements
until all done.

Andy


On Thu, 23 May 2024 14:12:07 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

Yes, it does work, but 'Place all units' doesn't work. I had to find a
work-around to get both poles into the schematic.

On 2024-05-23 10:24, Andy wrote:

SW_DP3T looks something like what you are asking form it's in the switch
lib.

Get used to making your own footprints and symbols it's one of the most
useful things you can do as it's a great time saver.

The way to go is find a symbol (or footprint) that's close, copy it,
rename and save in your own libs which you should be doing anyway, and
it's not a good idea to use the provided libs directly as you have no way
of knowing if an update has changed something. It's should not, bit it
can happen.

Andy



On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:53:09 +0100
"John Woodgate"<jmw@...> wrote:

I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the
footprint:
Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good.
But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a
single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means
delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically
very well and I have a supply.

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Best wishes
John Woodgate, Rayleigh, Essex UK
Keep trying

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Thanks, Andy. That's what I did, eventually.

Place all units does work, but you have to be a little careful to avoid
"clickitis" :-)

in the circuit editor
add symbol

select switch / SW_DP3T

(here you can select either the entire unit, or each part, select the
entire unit SW_DP3T)

At the bottom of the selection window ensure that the place all units is
selected.

The next bit is where I think you might be going wrong

Select OK

the system is now ready to place the units. It will ONLY place one unit
at a time, not all in one go.

So move to where you want to place the first unit and click ONCE 

Move to where you want the second unit and click ONCE

For a two unit symbol such as this that's it all done, but if it was a
4,6,8 or whatever part unit you would need to repeat the placements
until all done.

Andy


On Thu, 23 May 2024 14:12:07 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

Yes, it does work, but 'Place all units' doesn't work. I had to find a 
work-around to get both poles into the schematic.

On 2024-05-23 10:24, Andy wrote:

SW_DP3T looks something like what you are asking form it's in the switch
lib.

Get used to making your own footprints and symbols it's one of the most
useful things you can do as it's a great time saver.

The way to go is find a symbol (or footprint) that's close, copy it,
rename and save in your own libs which you should be doing anyway, and
it's not a good idea to use the provided libs directly as you have no way
of knowing if an update has changed something. It's should not, bit it
can happen.

Andy



On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:53:09 +0100
"John Woodgate"<jmw@...>  wrote:
 

I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the
footprint:
Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good.
But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a
single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means
delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically
very well and I have a supply.

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Best wishes
John Woodgate, Rayleigh, Essex UK
Keep trying

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I think you need start with finding a real switch. Then compare datasheet with footprint.
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I have a switch that fits the footprint. I now have? a schematic symbol that will do, although it's not quite correct.

Thanks to all for help.

I think you need start with finding a real switch. Then compare datasheet with footprint.
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Victor