Hi


Yes.

Also when I come across this issue when routing a PCB, I go back to the schematic and rotate the component there.


regards

Jorge

Are you trying to place a copper track from the end of one capacitor to
another and KiCad won't let you make that connection?

KiCad will only allow you to make connections between components that
are described in the schematic you have entered. So if your schematic
says the connections have to be made one way, and you try and do it
another way, it won't let you.

You can turn on the Ratsnest function in the PCB editor which will show
you the connections KiCad wants to make between components, driven by
what you put in the schematic. That should help you see what is going on.

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I am having a? problem with laying out a simple PCB, using version 8.01 under Widows 11. The problem is that even resistors and capacitors have specified ends, and it seems impossible to overcome this. For example, I have two capacitors to be connected in parallel to make up a non-standard value. KiCad insists on connecting the north end of C1 to the south end of C2, so the other connection C1S to C2N cannot be made. I see that it's not possible to directly invert a footprint, and applying? a 90 degree turn twice doesn't fix the problem.?

I can't find anything about this in 'Getting Started' or the 'English Documentation', but of course it might be in there somewhere. Please advise.

See:



in particular, the subsection 'Power Symbols'.

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Thanks all for help.

Place one after the switch as well. You could also just ignore the warning.

Reinier

Op 12-4-2024 om 15:31 schreef John Woodgate:

I have attached PWR_FLAG labels to my battery input terminals, but I still get a 'not driven' violation on the positive rail after the on-off switch, which is shown in the ON position. Is this normal, or have I got a hidden error in the schematic?

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Place one after the switch as well. You could also just ignore the warning.

Reinier

Kicad doesn't know that switches have an "on" and and "off", so you have
to place the power flag downstream of the switch.

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Hard to visualize what you are saying but the pin has to be defined as power or passive I think.

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I have attached PWR_FLAG labels to my battery input terminals, but I still get a 'not driven' violation on the positive rail after the on-off switch, which is shown in the ON position. Is this normal, or have I got a hidden error in the schematic?

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Thanks, Reinier. I am probably odd, but I do not like video instructions. I will study the KiCad manuals and see if I can find the 5 mm preset pot for sale by those suppliers.

Creating a footprint is very similar to "normal" pcb design. There are probably tons of youtube video that will show you how to do it if you are afraid of trying yourself..
Or just start with an existing footprint, "save as" you new name (create your own library!), and modify pad position, dimensions etc. Designing or modifying footprints is really something a pcb designer should know.
By the way, big resellers like Mouser and Digikey have CAD models of their parts, also in KiCad format. Schematic symbols. footprints and 3D models.
Library management can be a bit difficult to master. You'll need to add your own library. I would suggest to use Onedrive of similar for you own libraries. That makes it very easy to keep libraries (and pcb designs) in sync between multiple computers.
Success, Reinier

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I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Creating a footprint is very similar to "normal" pcb design. There are probably tons of youtube video that will show you how to do it if you are afraid of trying yourself..
Or just start with an existing footprint, "save as" you new name (create your own library!), and modify pad position, dimensions etc. Designing or modifying footprints is really something a pcb designer should know.
By the way, big resellers like Mouser and Digikey have CAD models of their parts, also in KiCad format. Schematic symbols. footprints and 3D models.
Library management can be a bit difficult to master. You'll need to add your own library. I would suggest to use Onedrive of similar for you own libraries. That makes it very easy to keep libraries (and pcb designs) in sync between multiple computers.
Success, Reinier

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It's a 5 mm square preset. No room.

Part numbers are generally stamped into pots.

On 2024-04-10 5:10 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:

If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example is out there.

On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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Part numbers are generally stamped into pots.

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Thank you.

You may find some parts on a millimetre pitch (5 mm, 2 mm) rather than 
'inches converted to millimetres' (i.e. 0.1 inch as 2.54 mm).

On 4/10/2024 2:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:

I do use a digital slide-gauge to measure parts. But you mention? '0.1 
inch': is there a new 'standard' pitch unit now?

On 2024-04-10 22:13, CW via groups.io wrote:

If they are older parts they are likely(?) to be on a 0.1 inch pitch
maybe. That, and a pair of calipers, would make it easy to make a
sufficiently good footprint, I'd suggest.

On 4/10/2024 2:10 PM, John Woodgate wrote:

Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these
parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:

If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint.
There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and
so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can
download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example
is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the
line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the
user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and
knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at
all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had
'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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You may find some parts on a millimetre pitch (5 mm, 2 mm) rather than
'inches converted to millimetres' (i.e. 0.1 inch as 2.54 mm).

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I do use a digital slide-gauge to measure parts. But you mention? '0.1 inch': is there a new 'standard' pitch unit now?

If they are older parts they are likely(?) to be on a 0.1 inch pitch 
maybe. That, and a pair of calipers, would make it easy to make a 
sufficiently good footprint, I'd suggest.

On 4/10/2024 2:10 PM, John Woodgate wrote:

Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these 
parts quite a long time ago.

On 2024-04-10 19:31, brian wrote:

If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. 
There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and 
so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can 
download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example 
is out there.



On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using 
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components 
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing 
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the 
line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the 
user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and 
knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at 
all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 
'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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If they are older parts they are likely(?) to be on a 0.1 inch pitch
maybe. That, and a pair of calipers, would make it easy to make a
sufficiently good footprint, I'd suggest.

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Thank you. I will study the creation process.

The preferred solution is to create your own footprint for the part you 
wish to use. Sometimes you can find an existing footprint that is close, 
save a copy of it in your personal footprint library, rename it as you 
desire, and modify it to be exactly what you need. The process, once 
understood, is not onerous.

On 4/10/2024 11:21 AM, John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using 
version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components 
except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing 
between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line 
of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user 
choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the 
exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem 
to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is 
the only solution to create a footprint?

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Thank you, but I don't think I can find the part number. I bought these parts quite a long time ago.

If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example is out there.

On 2024-04-10 2:21 p.m., John Woodgate wrote:

I rarely make printed boards, but I need to in this case. I am using version 8.01. I have identified footprints for all of the components except for a 1 kohm trimmer potentiometer. This has? 5.08 mm spacing between the end pins and 5.08 mm spacing of the slider pin from the line of the end pins. The footprint library seems to be based on the user choosing parts from a very limited number of suppliers and knowing the exact part number. I can see no 'generic' footprints at all, but I seem to remember that earlier versions of KiCad had 'generic' footprints. Is the only solution to create a footprint?

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John Woodgate, Rayleigh, Essex UK
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If you know the part number google search part number Kicad footprint. There are numerous websites which work with distributors, vendors, and so on to create symbols, footprints, and 3d models which you can download and import.

Usually pots are generic so odds are very high a pre-existing example is out there.