Re: Dissatisfied with group transfer
Yes, thank you for getting this transfer to occur. I, for one, wasn't even aware of the ?possibility.
I wasn't that happy with Yahoo, but kept my account there simply because this group, and another, were on there.
And hhh, it really would have been better to have shut down your account, rather than just abandoning it.
Mark On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:06 AM, rattus32 < mike@...> wrote:
I’d like to offer up a sincere FU to the jerks who whine about the transfer.
Real people put in volunteer effort to “save the space”. I’d like to thank them for preserving this resource!
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I've used
for several jobs, from a couple of pc prototypes to several
hundred pieces in both circuit board and flex with good results.?
I especially like the automated bidding process as you can see
immediately how much it will cost and delivery times.
Charles R. Patton
On 10/29/2019 2:28 PM,
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second PCBWay. Excellent boards, timely delivery to US...
Henri Monnier
On 10/29/2019 5:23 PM, Gordon Hardman wrote:
I have had several boards made by Seeed Studio using their
Fusion offering:
Boards were excellent- 4 layers, silk screen. solder mask etc.
Delivery times to Colorado were quite fast.
Gordon Hardman
On 10/29/2019 13:22, Peter Dalmaris wrote:
I have also used PCBWay, and found their
board workmanship and delivery times to Australia excellent.
I believe pricing-wise PCBWay is the best I have found
(definitely compared to OSHPark, which I have also used a
lot).
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Kind regards,
Peter Dalmaris, PhD
Founder, Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a
Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked
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<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
I second PCBWay. Excellent boards,
timely delivery to US...
Henri Monnier
On 10/29/2019 5:23 PM, Gordon Hardman
wrote:
I have had several boards made by Seeed Studio using their
Fusion offering:
Boards were excellent- 4 layers, silk screen. solder mask
etc. Delivery times to Colorado were quite fast.
Gordon Hardman
On 10/29/2019 13:22, Peter Dalmaris
wrote:
I have also used PCBWay, and found their board workmanship and
delivery times to Australia excellent.
I believe pricing-wise PCBWay is the best I have found
(definitely compared to OSHPark, which I have also used a
lot).
--
Kind regards,
Peter Dalmaris, PhD
Founder, Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and
more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like
a Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked
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I second PCBWay. Excellent boards, timely
delivery to US...
Henri Monnier
On 10/29/2019 5:23 PM, Gordon Hardman
wrote:
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I have had several boards made by Seeed Studio using their
Fusion offering:
Boards were excellent- 4 layers, silk screen. solder mask etc.
Delivery times to Colorado were quite fast.
Gordon Hardman
On 10/29/2019 13:22, Peter Dalmaris
wrote:
I have also used PCBWay, and found their board workmanship and
delivery times to Australia excellent.
I believe pricing-wise PCBWay is the best I have found
(definitely compared to OSHPark, which I have also used a lot).
--
Kind
regards,
Peter
Dalmaris, PhD
Founder,
Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online
instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a
Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked
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Thanks all for the pc board mfgs info.
I have been using Osh Park to make my 4-layer boards and have been happy with the quality of the boards, fast production and delivery.
And thanks to Peter for getting the Kicad users group moved to groups.io.
John Baker
Retired from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Author: "I am an Electrical Engineer"
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I have had several boards made by Seeed Studio using their Fusion
offering:
Boards were excellent- 4 layers, silk screen. solder mask etc.
Delivery times to Colorado were quite fast.
Gordon Hardman
On 10/29/2019 13:22, Peter Dalmaris
wrote:
I have also used PCBWay, and found their board workmanship and
delivery times to Australia excellent.
I believe pricing-wise PCBWay is the best I have found (definitely
compared to OSHPark, which I have also used a lot).
--
Kind
regards,
Peter
Dalmaris, PhD
Founder,
Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online
instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a
Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked
|
I have also used PCBWay, and found their board workmanship and delivery times to Australia excellent.
I believe pricing-wise PCBWay is the best I have found (definitely compared to OSHPark, which I have also used a lot).
--
Kind regards,
Peter Dalmaris, PhD
Founder, Tech Explorations, Inc.
Online instructor (Arduino, Raspberry Pi, KiCad and more)
Author of Electronics Education for Makers & KiCad Like a Pro
techexplorations.com
@futureshocked
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If you want pcb fab only, oshpark has served me well personally and professionally. For more layers, I go over seas to pcbway. They have quality issues from time to time,? but it usually workable and if it is really bad, they usually re do it with no questions asked.
If you want PCB assembly, macrofab has been hitting it out the park for me.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 10:11 AM Doug McKnight < doug@...> wrote:
I've been using PcbWay. If you keep the board below 100mm a 2-layer
is $5 for 5. The shipping is about $20.
One thing I like is that a stainless stencil is $10, which seems
very reasonable.
Also, I had them assemble 40 boards for me. They handled the
procurement of the parts and the assembly in a very painless way. I
though the price was good and the quality was fine.
Doug
On 10/29/2019 3:30 AM, ng10066504jan
via Groups.Io wrote:
Okay... I've finished my work with KiCad... now how do I turn the
files into an actual PCB?
For my wants (simple!), OSH Park do a good job... the product is
good, I can order as few as three, and the ordering process is
brilliantly arranged. More at...
Others? (Maybe say a word about what you need the service for... a
few bare boards for a hobbyist? More than that?)
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I've been using PcbWay. If you keep the board below 100mm a 2-layer
is $5 for 5. The shipping is about $20.
One thing I like is that a stainless stencil is $10, which seems
very reasonable.
Also, I had them assemble 40 boards for me. They handled the
procurement of the parts and the assembly in a very painless way. I
though the price was good and the quality was fine.
Doug
On 10/29/2019 3:30 AM, ng10066504jan
via Groups.Io wrote:
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Okay... I've finished my work with KiCad... now how do I turn the
files into an actual PCB?
For my wants (simple!), OSH Park do a good job... the product is
good, I can order as few as three, and the ordering process is
brilliantly arranged. More at...
Others? (Maybe say a word about what you need the service for... a
few bare boards for a hobbyist? More than that?)
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Re: Who do you use to get your boards made? #fab-house#pcb-manufacture
I've used JLCPCB a couple of times with good results, quick, and reasonable costs.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 10:02 AM brian < brian@...> wrote: Elecrow previously and JLCPCB now (they tend to be faster). ? ? ? Okay... I've finished my work with KiCad... now how do I turn the files into an actual PCB?
For my wants (simple!), OSH Park do a good job... the product is good, I can order as few as three, and the ordering process is brilliantly arranged. More at...
Others? (Maybe say a word about what you need the service for... a few bare boards for a hobbyist? More than that?)
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Re: Who do you use to get your boards made? #fab-house#pcb-manufacture
Elecrow previously and JLCPCB now (they tend to be faster). ? ?
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From: ng10066504jan via Groups.IoSent: October 29, 2019 5:30 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [kicad-users] Who do you use to get your boards made? #fab-house#pcb-manufacture ? Okay... I've finished my work with KiCad... now how do I turn the files into an actual PCB?
For my wants (simple!), OSH Park do a good job... the product is good, I can order as few as three, and the ordering process is brilliantly arranged. More at...
Others? (Maybe say a word about what you need the service for... a few bare boards for a hobbyist? More than that?)
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OSH is expensive per square inch and you have to open source your design but you do get gold flash as standard. For anything? half Eurocard sized or bigger there are any number of Chinese PCB manufacturers to choose from. I used Seeedstudio for several years but now I have switched to allpcb.com. I am about to order some boards 10 inches by 12 inches. Five of them gold flashed with blue solder resist shipped by DHL costs $100.
Cheers
Ian
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I've used?
?and?
I find OSH Park good for small PCBs and pcbway better for larger ones. PCBway is cheaper per inch but its shipping is pretty expensive.? I've not used seeedstudio yet but I plan to try them out on my next project.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 6:33 AM Al Dutcher < alziedood@...> wrote: For the past few years
ive been using Seeed Studio,
hi quality and very reasonable pricing.
I cant imagine anyone rolling their own any more.
Al D.
On 10/29/19 5:30 AM, ng10066504jan via Groups.Io wrote:
> Others? (Maybe say a word about what you need the service for... a few
> bare boards for a hobbyist? More than that?)
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AC2CL I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human
heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the
brain unfolding to success... Such emotions make a man forget food,
sleep, friends, love, everything. - Nikola Tesla
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For the past few years
ive been using Seeed Studio,
hi quality and very reasonable pricing.
I cant imagine anyone rolling their own any more.
Al D.
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On 10/29/19 5:30 AM, ng10066504jan via Groups.Io wrote: Others? (Maybe say a word about what you need the service for... a few bare boards for a hobbyist? More than that?)
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AC2CL I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success... Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything. - Nikola Tesla
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PS: OSH Park is happy to accept your KiCad file... you don't have the extra step of exporting to one of the more widely supported formats. If you have advocated for other fab services, maybe you could update your recommendation with the situation elsewhere?
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Okay... I've finished my work with KiCad... now how do I turn the files into an actual PCB?
For my wants (simple!), OSH Park do a good job... the product is good, I can order as few as three, and the ordering process is brilliantly arranged. More at...
Others? (Maybe say a word about what you need the service for... a few bare boards for a hobbyist? More than that?)
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Re: Dissatisfied with group transfer
Agreed,
It's a rather moot point anyway.
When you join a group, you are ASKING the moderator to join you, and
giving him/her the rights to administer your membership.
If the moderator moves the group, then that really gives them the right
to move the members as well. As such there has been no change in
permissions etc.
There is a small GDPR issue, but as the invite from io does explicitly
say if you don't want to join then do this... I think that is generally
covered.
As previously said, if you don't want to remain a member of a group, then
resign the group completely.
The first line of defence regarding any online security is always YOU
Andy
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Re: Dissatisfied with group transfer
Do you have any idea how many places Yahoo! groups sold your email address to? I didn't think so. The only difference is that the admins of the kicad-users group sent an email telling us they were moving and that your email would be automatically moved; you must have not read that.
If you don't like it, unsubscribe. If you want a private email address, all I can do is wish you good luck.
[I am not an admin, just a satisfied user.]
Donald.
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On 28-Oct-2019 10:43, hhh wrote: Hi,
I would like to express my dissatisfaction to transferring my account to another platform without my consent.
I can confirm I had registered this email address to yahoo group service, but then abandoned this group since there were no so many discussion threads.
Without my consent you have transferred my email information to another service provider, I have never agree to any groups.io terms or conditions.
In my opinion, you should no automatically transfer any user accounts to group.io and ask every person to register and join group if they wont.
There are also GDPR rights applicable on the user data you fetch from yahoo groups even if you had not sent them to groups.io.
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Re: Dissatisfied with group transfer
I’d like to offer up a sincere FU to the jerks who whine about the transfer.
Real people put in volunteer effort to “save the space”. I’d like to thank them for preserving this resource!
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You need to take this up with yahoo. It is they who hold the data and are responsible for it being released to .
I do not understand why you did not simply delete your membership of the yahoo list instead of simply abandoning it.
Cheers
Ian
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Re: Dissatisfied with group transfer
You need to take this up with yahoo. It is they who hold the data and are responsible for it being released to grouos.io.
I do not understand why you did not simply delete your membership of the yahoo list instead of simply abandoning it.
Cheers
Ian
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Re: How is the migration getting along?
And a new member because I checked out groups.io after yahoo killed a couple of train groups.?
I am also in a like KiCAD “chat room” at?t.me/kicadcommunity
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On 27 Oct 2019, at 23:56, Ian Bell <ianthompsonbell@...> wrote:
?I just got a message from groups.io to say the group transfer is complete. All the files, pics etc have been moved along with about 4400 members (members with bouncing emails were not transferred).
Cheers
ian
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Dissatisfied with group transfer
Hi,
I would like to express my dissatisfaction to transferring my account to another platform without my consent.
I can confirm I had registered this email address to yahoo group service, but then abandoned this group since there were no so many discussion threads.
Without my consent you have transferred my email information to another service provider, I have never agree to any groups.io terms or conditions.
In my opinion, you should no automatically transfer any user accounts to group.io and ask every person to register and join group if they wont.
There are also GDPR rights applicable on the user data you fetch from yahoo groups even if you had not sent them to groups.io.
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Peter Dalmaris
Ian Bell