My pleasure, I hope that this group will continue to benefit the community as it has done over many years.
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It takes special people like him and the many developers to make and keep information free for the open source community.
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I hope that the group¡¯s new home will help it grow and prosper.
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Peter has kindly agreed to sponsor the transfer of the group to . The new group is already set up and I have initiated the transfer. The new group is, not surprisingly [email protected]
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Peter has kindly agreed to sponsor the transfer of the group to groups.io. The new group is already set up and I have initiated the transfer. The new group is, not surprisingly [email protected]
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Hi,
I recommand you to take a look at the FramaSoft organization, they do very
interesting things ;)
Maybe could you find what you are looking for...
FramaSoft :
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Re: Yahoo Groups shutting down
The groups.io to which I subscribe that already moved from Yahoo! work extremely well. I find the forum.kicad.info difficult. Donald. -- *Plain Text* email -- it's an accessibility issue () no proprietary attachments; no html mail /\ <> On 2019-10-18 11:55 a.m., gnuarm.2007@... [kicad-users] wrote: I'm not sure what "No email conversations" means, but if it means not being able to reply by email to a conversation, that does not appear to be correct.
The separate page issue seems to also be incorrect.
I think if comparing the groups.io UI to the Yahoo UI most will find it superior, but that is a matter of taste.? In the groups where I use groups.io I have less trouble replying to posts with groups.io.
Rick C.
RBHR 6/3/16
Dr Su
---In kicad-users@..., <dhlocker@...> wrote :
1 - No email conversations
2 - Each post in each thread is effectively a separate page
3 - User interface is so-so.
JMHO, of course.
Donald.
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On 17-Oct-2019 22:21, Jeff Barlow Jeff@... <mailto:Jeff@...>
[kicad-users] wrote:
> On 10/17/19 1:22 PM, ianthompsonbell@... <mailto:ianthompsonbell@...> [kicad-users] wrote:
>>
>>
>> We will certainly not be moving to groups.io simply because it will cost
>> $110 a year. If you have a better = free suggestion I would love to hear it.
> Is there something about the new(ish) forum ()
> that you don't like?
>
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Hi Peter,
That is a very generous offer. As group owner I am happy to take you up on that. I will drop you an email so we can arrange payment and then I will; set the wheels in motion.
Cheers
Ian
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Well that was constructive. I am happy to delete your account if you wish.
Cheers
Ian
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Well, if we do need to move to some sort of paid platform, I'll chip in. But if they have a free option, that's great too.
I would think that there would be some way to include a small amount of advertising and have a free forum. But I don't know.
-Glenn
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Google groups??
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We will certainly not be moving to simply because it will cost $110 a year. If you have a better = free suggestion I would love to hear it.
Cheers
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I'm not sure what "No email conversations" means, but if it means not being able to reply by email to a conversation, that does not appear to be correct.?
The separate page issue seems to also be incorrect.?
I think if comparing the groups.io UI to the Yahoo UI most will find it superior, but that is a matter of taste.? In the groups where I use groups.io I have less trouble replying to posts with groups.io.
Rick C.
RBHR 6/3/16 Dr Su
---In kicad-users@..., <dhlocker@...> wrote : 1 - No email conversations
2 - Each post in each thread is effectively a separate page
3 - User interface is so-so.
JMHO, of course.
Donald.
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On 17-Oct-2019 22:21, Jeff Barlow Jeff@... [kicad-users] wrote:
> On 10/17/19 1:22 PM, ianthompsonbell@... [kicad-users] wrote:
>>
>>
>> We will certainly not be moving to groups.io simply because it will cost
>> $110 a year. If you have a better = free suggestion I would love to hear it.
> Is there something about the new(ish) forum (
> that you don't like?
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I don't see why this group is necessary, just let it die. Better to just use kicad forum!
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I've got no hard opinions, but it seems kind of silly to set up another split community when the kicad forum is relatively vibrant and this one has long had minimal traffic. (This is only the 13th thread this year if I counted correctly)? There's always other reasons like personalities/culture that are valid, but keeping a positive culture seems to be a priority over there as well.
Minor side note, the Discourse (the forum platform which runs ) does allow for replying to posts via email.? Posting new topics via email is also possible, but a bit clunky...? ?
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1 - No email conversations
2 - Each post in each thread is effectively a separate page
3 - User interface is so-so.
JMHO, of course.
Donald.
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On 17-Oct-2019 22:21, Jeff Barlow Jeff@... [kicad-users] wrote:
> On 10/17/19 1:22 PM, ianthompsonbell@... [kicad-users] wrote:
>>
>>
>> We will certainly not be moving to simply because it will cost
>> $110 a year. If you have a better = free suggestion I would love to hear it.
> Is there something about the new(ish) forum ()
> that you don't like?
>
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How about a gofundme campaign?
I'll gladly add 40USD or more to keep this list going.
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put me down for $20 US
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Count me in.
Gordon
On 10/17/2019 18:05, Brian
Piccioni brian@...
[kicad-users] wrote:
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I mean, not my
place but can¡¯t we pass the hat for $110?
I¡¯m in for at least $10 ...
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Not entirely true.?
With the influx of new groups from the
Yahoo shutdown they are requiring all
transfers to be to a Premium group and
pay for a year at $110.? After the first
year you can change the group to a free
one.? This is stated clearly on the
transfer instructions page.
I haven't seen
anything about this policy in regards to
open source groups.?
---In kicad-users@...,
wrote :
It only
costs that if you want extra space.
The free version comes with 1Gb of
space. I'm on a
couple of large lists (8,000-9,000
members) that moved to the free
version a while ago and they find
it to not be a big problem. Message
don't count to the space usage but
attachments, photos and
files do. I don't know how much space
is used in this group currently so I
don't know if this is a
problem.
Administrators have control over who
can post photos (which tend to be the
biggest consumer) and
also how large the images can be. You
can also set it so that if you are
running out of space it
automatically deletes old attachments.
They also say that open source
projects are free - though it isn't
clear if that means that open
source projects can just use the free
service or if they can get one of the
paid levels for free.
Groups.io also has an automated
conversion from Yahoo Groups to
Groups.io that has worked well on
all the lists I'm on that moved.
Service has been much better on
Groups.io than Yahoo Groups and I
belong to quite a number of lists
on Groups.io (11 at last count) that
moved from Yahoo and I doubt that any
of them are using a paid
version.
That is my "free" suggestion.
Dennis
On 10/17/2019
2:22 PM, ianthompsonbell@...
[kicad-users] wrote:
> We will certainly not be moving
to groups.io simply because it will
cost $110 a year. If you have a
> better = free suggestion I
would love to hear it.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian (Moderator)
>
>
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I've got no hard opinions, but it seems kind of silly to set up another split community when the kicad forum is relatively vibrant and this one has long had minimal traffic. (This is only the 13th thread this year if I counted correctly)? There's always other reasons like personalities/culture that are valid, but keeping a positive culture seems to be a priority over there as well.
Minor side note, the Discourse (the forum platform which runs ) does allow for replying to posts via email.? Posting new topics via email is also possible, but a bit clunky...? ?
?
1 - No email conversations
2 - Each post in each thread is effectively a separate page
3 - User interface is so-so.
JMHO, of course.
Donald.
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/\ <>
On 17-Oct-2019 22:21, Jeff Barlow Jeff@... [kicad-users] wrote:
> On 10/17/19 1:22 PM, ianthompsonbell@... [kicad-users] wrote:
>>
>>
>> We will certainly not be moving to simply because it will cost
>> $110 a year. If you have a better = free suggestion I would love to hear it.
> Is there something about the new(ish) forum ()
> that you don't like?
>
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