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Any ideas on what causes the F2 macro to send your call 328 times with one depression and totally embarrass the crap out of you in a pileup when the escape key won’t stop it?? I’ve recreated the macro database several times, changed keyboards, said 19 Hail Mary’s.? I’m out of ideas. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J
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I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once.
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And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC.
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But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Good Luck
Walt
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What exactly are you referring to? Maybe you sent this to me by accident? Steve K1EL?
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On Mar 4, 2025, at 8:09?PM, Walt via groups.io <nw_radio@...> wrote:
? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once.
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And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC.
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But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Good Luck
Walt
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Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Walt via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 7:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [k1elsystems] Repeating Macro? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you.
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On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve K1EL via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [k1elsystems] Repeating Macro? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you.
On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ?
Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you.
On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve K1EL via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 5:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [k1elsystems] Repeating Macro? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information.
Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ??
? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Hi Steve. ? - No, I can’t duplicate it.
- It just randomly happens.? Usually when I’m trying to work a DX station in a pileup.? The keyer just decides to got ape shit and repeatedly send out my call until I power off the rig or unplug the USB cable.? This is extremely embarrassing.
- At other times when your in a pile it will on send a ‘K’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will send ‘KZ’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will finally send KZ5J (the complete callsign).? By that time the DX station picks up someone else.
- No, it does not happen when I’m not keying the radio.? Thank God.
? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve K1EL via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 9:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [k1elsystems] Repeating Macro? Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information. Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ?? ? ? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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My best guess is that RF is getting into PC and causing problems. I would recommend looking at your grounding system. That’s most likely the root cause of these random events.
Keep in mind that these posts get emailed to a lot of people, please be respectful.
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On Mar 6, 2025, at 11:04 AM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Hi Steve. ? - No, I can’t duplicate it.
- It just randomly happens.? Usually when I’m trying to work a DX station in a pileup.? The keyer just decides to got ape shit and repeatedly send out my call until I power off the rig or unplug the USB cable.? This is extremely embarrassing.
- At other times when your in a pile it will on send a ‘K’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will send ‘KZ’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will finally send KZ5J (the complete callsign).? By that time the DX station picks up someone else.
- No, it does not happen when I’m not keying the radio.? Thank God.
? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information. Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ?? ? ? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Thanks for the help Steve.? Yea, I already have basically every wire in the shack do-nutted up with ferrite snap on units and the rest of the wires and coax’s run through ferrite cores.? Will dig up all the ground rods and see what’s up with them. ? In the meantime I’ll try using the DEL key rather than the ESC key when the F2 key starts going goofy on me. ? 73, ? Pat – KZ5J ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve K1EL via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 10:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [k1elsystems] Repeating Macro? My best guess is that RF is getting into PC and causing problems. I would recommend looking at your grounding system. That’s most likely the root cause of these random events. Keep in mind that these posts get emailed to a lot of people, please be respectful. ?
On Mar 6, 2025, at 11:04 AM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Hi Steve. ? - No, I can’t duplicate it.
- It just randomly happens.? Usually when I’m trying to work a DX station in a pileup.? The keyer just decides to got ape shit and repeatedly send out my call until I power off the rig or unplug the USB cable.? This is extremely embarrassing.
- At other times when your in a pile it will on send a ‘K’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will send ‘KZ’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will finally send KZ5J (the complete callsign).? By that time the DX station picks up someone else.
- No, it does not happen when I’m not keying the radio.? Thank God.
? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information. Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ?? ? ? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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It’s a function of the application, nothing to do with WKUSB. The application picks up the hot key and translates it into a WK command. Steve K1EL?
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On Mar 6, 2025, at 1:53?PM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the help Steve.? Yea, I already have basically every wire in the shack do-nutted up with ferrite snap on units and the rest of the wires and coax’s run through ferrite cores.? Will dig up all the ground rods and see what’s up with them. ? In the meantime I’ll try using the DEL key rather than the ESC key when the F2 key starts going goofy on me. ? 73, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? My best guess is that RF is getting into PC and causing problems. I would recommend looking at your grounding system. That’s most likely the root cause of these random events. Keep in mind that these posts get emailed to a lot of people, please be respectful. ?
On Mar 6, 2025, at 11:04 AM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Hi Steve. ? - No, I can’t duplicate it.
- It just randomly happens.? Usually when I’m trying to work a DX station in a pileup.? The keyer just decides to got ape shit and repeatedly send out my call until I power off the rig or unplug the USB cable.? This is extremely embarrassing.
- At other times when your in a pile it will on send a ‘K’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will send ‘KZ’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will finally send KZ5J (the complete callsign).? By that time the DX station picks up someone else.
- No, it does not happen when I’m not keying the radio.? Thank God.
? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information. Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ?? ? ? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve K1EL via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 1:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [k1elsystems] Repeating Macro? It’s a function of the application, nothing to do with WKUSB. The application picks up the hot key and translates it into a WK command.
On Mar 6, 2025, at 1:53?PM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the help Steve.? Yea, I already have basically every wire in the shack do-nutted up with ferrite snap on units and the rest of the wires and coax’s run through ferrite cores.? Will dig up all the ground rods and see what’s up with them. ? In the meantime I’ll try using the DEL key rather than the ESC key when the F2 key starts going goofy on me. ? 73, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? My best guess is that RF is getting into PC and causing problems. I would recommend looking at your grounding system. That’s most likely the root cause of these random events. Keep in mind that these posts get emailed to a lot of people, please be respectful. ?
On Mar 6, 2025, at 11:04 AM, Pat Whelton via groups.io <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Hi Steve. ? - No, I can’t duplicate it.
- It just randomly happens.? Usually when I’m trying to work a DX station in a pileup.? The keyer just decides to got ape shit and repeatedly send out my call until I power off the rig or unplug the USB cable.? This is extremely embarrassing.
- At other times when your in a pile it will on send a ‘K’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will send ‘KZ’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will finally send KZ5J (the complete callsign).? By that time the DX station picks up someone else.
- No, it does not happen when I’m not keying the radio.? Thank God.
? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information. Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ?? ? ? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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What application are you using Pat?? You were asked but didn't answer that question.
Does the problem happen every time?
On every band?
What power level causes the problem?
If higher than 100 Watts, have you tried running barefoot or using a dummy load?
Can you measure common mode current on the coax and the USB connection to the WinKeyer?
How hard would it be to place the WinKeyer where you can disconnect the cable to the key input on the rig?
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
Yea, OK, great. ? ? It’s a function of the application, nothing to do with WKUSB. The application picks up the hot key and translates it into a WK command.
On Mar 6, 2025, at 1:53?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the help Steve.? Yea, I already have basically every wire in the shack do-nutted up with ferrite snap on units and the rest of the wires and coax’s run through ferrite cores.? Will dig up all the ground rods and see what’s up with them. ? In the meantime I’ll try using the DEL key rather than the ESC key when the F2 key starts going goofy on me. ? 73, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? My best guess is that RF is getting into PC and causing problems. I would recommend looking at your grounding system. That’s most likely the root cause of these random events. Keep in mind that these posts get emailed to a lot of people, please be respectful. ?
On Mar 6, 2025, at 11:04 AM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Hi Steve. ? - No, I can’t duplicate it.
- It just randomly happens.? Usually when I’m trying to work a DX station in a pileup.? The keyer just decides to got ape shit and repeatedly send out my call until I power off the rig or unplug the USB cable.? This is extremely embarrassing.
- At other times when your in a pile it will on send a ‘K’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will send ‘KZ’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will finally send KZ5J (the complete callsign).? By that time the DX station picks up someone else.
- No, it does not happen when I’m not keying the radio.? Thank God.
? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information. Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ?? ? ? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Hi Bill.? Please show me where I was asked what application I was using.? I did specify that I was using the Winkeyer with N3FJP’s ACLog.? Perhaps you didn’t see this.? No it does not happen all the time.? It typically happens in a pile up when sending my call.? I use 160 thru 10 meters so it can happen anywhere there happens to be a pile up.? I typically run about 300 watts so my guess is 300 watts causes the problem.? I run barefoot on Tuesday and Thursday nights during the QRP Fox Hunts with no problem that I can remember.? No I don’t have the ability to measure common mode current.? It’s not hard at all to disconnect the key cable to the rig. ? Thanks for your help. ? Pat – KZ5J ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Mader, K8TE via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2025 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [k1elsystems] Repeating Macro? What application are you using Pat?? You were asked but didn't answer that question. Does the problem happen every time? What power level causes the problem? If higher than 100 Watts, have you tried running barefoot or using a dummy load? Can you measure common mode current on the coax and the USB connection to the WinKeyer? How hard would it be to place the WinKeyer where you can disconnect the cable to the key input on the rig?
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio? New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025 W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025 Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025 Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association? ? ? Yea, OK, great. ? ? It’s a function of the application, nothing to do with WKUSB. The application picks up the hot key and translates it into a WK command. ? On Mar 6, 2025, at 1:53?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the help Steve.? Yea, I already have basically every wire in the shack do-nutted up with ferrite snap on units and the rest of the wires and coax’s run through ferrite cores.? Will dig up all the ground rods and see what’s up with them. ? In the meantime I’ll try using the DEL key rather than the ESC key when the F2 key starts going goofy on me. ? 73, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? My best guess is that RF is getting into PC and causing problems. I would recommend looking at your grounding system. That’s most likely the root cause of these random events. Keep in mind that these posts get emailed to a lot of people, please be respectful. ?
On Mar 6, 2025, at 11:04 AM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Hi Steve. ? - No, I can’t duplicate it.
- It just randomly happens.? Usually when I’m trying to work a DX station in a pileup.? The keyer just decides to got ape shit and repeatedly send out my call until I power off the rig or unplug the USB cable.? This is extremely embarrassing.
- At other times when your in a pile it will on send a ‘K’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will send ‘KZ’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will finally send KZ5J (the complete callsign).? By that time the DX station picks up someone else.
- No, it does not happen when I’m not keying the radio.? Thank God.
? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information. Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ?? ? ? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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Sorry I missed the ACLog message, Pat.
I see you have multiple antennas.? Does it happen on all antennas?
What kind of multi-band dipole do you have?? OCF or fan?
Since the problem doesn't appear when running QRP, the most likely cause is RFI.
Check your ferrite chokes.? Ensure no cables cross each?other and are wound side-by-side.? Crossing cables will subtract, not add, from the total impedance.
73, Bill Mader, K8TE ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025
Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025
Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association?
Hi Bill.? Please show me where I was asked what application I was using.? I did specify that I was using the Winkeyer with N3FJP’s ACLog.? Perhaps you didn’t see this.? No it does not happen all the time.? It typically happens in a pile up when sending my call.? I use 160 thru 10 meters so it can happen anywhere there happens to be a pile up.? I typically run about 300 watts so my guess is 300 watts causes the problem.? I run barefoot on Tuesday and Thursday nights during the QRP Fox Hunts with no problem that I can remember.? No I don’t have the ability to measure common mode current.? It’s not hard at all to disconnect the key cable to the rig. ? Thanks for your help. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? What application are you using Pat?? You were asked but didn't answer that question. Does the problem happen every time? What power level causes the problem? If higher than 100 Watts, have you tried running barefoot or using a dummy load? Can you measure common mode current on the coax and the USB connection to the WinKeyer? How hard would it be to place the WinKeyer where you can disconnect the cable to the key input on the rig?
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio? New Mexico QSO Party 12 Apr 2025 W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep 2025 Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21 Sep 2025 Secretary/Treasurer and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association? ? ? Yea, OK, great. ? ? It’s a function of the application, nothing to do with WKUSB. The application picks up the hot key and translates it into a WK command. ? On Mar 6, 2025, at 1:53?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the help Steve.? Yea, I already have basically every wire in the shack do-nutted up with ferrite snap on units and the rest of the wires and coax’s run through ferrite cores.? Will dig up all the ground rods and see what’s up with them. ? In the meantime I’ll try using the DEL key rather than the ESC key when the F2 key starts going goofy on me. ? 73, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? My best guess is that RF is getting into PC and causing problems. I would recommend looking at your grounding system. That’s most likely the root cause of these random events. Keep in mind that these posts get emailed to a lot of people, please be respectful. ?
On Mar 6, 2025, at 11:04 AM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Hi Steve. ? - No, I can’t duplicate it.
- It just randomly happens.? Usually when I’m trying to work a DX station in a pileup.? The keyer just decides to got ape shit and repeatedly send out my call until I power off the rig or unplug the USB cable.? This is extremely embarrassing.
- At other times when your in a pile it will on send a ‘K’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will send ‘KZ’.? Hit the F-Key again and it will finally send KZ5J (the complete callsign).? By that time the DX station picks up someone else.
- No, it does not happen when I’m not keying the radio.? Thank God.
? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? Ok, WinKeyer USB. It always helps to have good information. Winkeyer only works on a letter by letter basis, for it to repeat a sequence of letters, like a callsign, that sequence would have to be sent by the host application. A series of 328 callsigns (very hard to believe) would have to be sent continuously?by whatever application you are using. Is this something that you can duplicate or does it happen randomly? Does it ever happen when?you are not keying the radio ?? ? ? Here you go.? The photos you requested.? Hope this helps identify the Winkeyer. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I am unable to find that transaction ID on our PayPal account. Can you send me a picture of the device, or at least the markings?on it ? ? Hi Steve.? All I have is the invoice and it says #WKUSB-HV-KIT.? Transaction ID: 7XR08837XV159124E. ? Computer specs: HP Envy 700-515XT DT 16GB DDR3-1600MHz 2TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 16GB mSATA SD Cache Intel Core i7-4790 3.6G 8M 84W CPU Windows 11 ? HP wireless keyboard replaced with a wired Dell keyboard gives same problem. ? Rig is a Kenwood TS570DG and logger is ACLog (v. 7.0.11) by N3FJP. ? Hope this helps. ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? ? Can you tell me what product/application you’re using? Then I can help you. ? On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:19?PM, Pat Whelton via <pwhelton@...> wrote:
? Thanks Walt.? Next time the Winkeyer decides it wants to send my callsign 438 times without stopping I’ll try the Delete key rather than the Escape key. ? Thanks for the help.? Actually it shouldn’t be hanging up like that in the first place. ? Regards, ? Pat – KZ5J ? ? I could not get my F2 function key to repeat, only sends the text once. And for me, the DEL (Delete) keyboard key is what cancels the transmit buffer and goes back to Rx mode.? Not ESC. But I am using the unit as stand-alone.? Not connected to a PC or other program.
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I'd
avoid the "Guess a cause, see if it is the problem -- Rinse/repeat"
school of troubleshooting Pat in favor of the much older, "Isolate to
find the cause before attempting a fix" school. ? 1.? Does the
radio ever do this all by itself with the Winkey disconnected?? What
happens if the radio is running but producing zero or lowest possible
power?? What happens if radio is feeding a dummy load on a short
pigtail? 2.? Does it occur with just the radio, WK [no paddle]
connected? 3.? Does it occur with radio, WK, and paddle
connected? 4.? Does it occur with radio, WK, paddle connected and
WKDemo running? 5.? and you probably get the idea.? Problems are
a whole lot easier to fix if you know the cause in advance of beginning
the fixing. Many many years ago we used to get troubleshooting
help by finding the remains of a small fire in the corner of a chassis.?
Now days, we rarely see, or need to see, inside the boxes we use. Note:?
A separate ground rod can be a large hazard unless you follow the NEC
and bond it directly to the the earth electrode at your electrical
service entrance.? Pounding a rod into the ground also rarely cures RFI
issues.? They succumb much more often to bonding all chassis' [sometimes
hard to find on laptops] with heavy, short conductors.? All the ferrite
chokes in the world may not solve an RF-in-the-shack issue without the
bonding. 73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
Thursday,
March 6, 2025 2:55 PM Hi
Bill.? Please show me where I was asked what application I was using.? I
did specify that I was using the Winkeyer with N3FJP’s ACLog.? Perhaps
you didn’t see this.? No it does not happen all the time.? It typically
happens in a pile up when sending my call.? I use 160 thru 10 meters so
it can happen anywhere there happens to be a pile up.? I typically run
about 300 watts so my guess is 300 watts causes the problem.? I run
barefoot on Tuesday and Thursday nights during the QRP Fox Hunts with no
problem that I can remember.? No I don’t have the ability to measure
common mode current.? It’s not hard at all to disconnect the key cable
to the rig. ? Thanks
for your help. ? Pat –
KZ5J ? ? What application are you using Pat?? You were
asked but didn't answer that question. Does the problem
happen every time? What power level
causes the problem? If higher than 100
Watts, have you tried running barefoot or using a dummy load? Can you measure common
mode current on the coax and the USB connection to the WinKeyer? How hard would it be
to place the WinKeyer where you can disconnect the cable to the key
input on the rig?
ARRL
New Mexico Section Manager ARRL - The national
association for Amateur Radio? New Mexico QSO Party 12
Apr 2025 W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 5-14 Sep
2025 Duke City Hamfest BoD??19-21
Sep 2025 Secretary/Treasurer and Past President,
Albuquerque DX Association? ? ?
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Steve K1EL
Bill Mader, K8TE
Fred ["Skip"] Jensen