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This is a place for temp files, other than administrative files. Either they are to be added to the next release, added to the Documents or will have a short life span. 开云体育 has free subscription storage limit of 1 GB! The following are counted towards the storage limits for the group: - Files - Photos - Images in databases - Images in wiki pages - Message attachments 1. Please put files into the correct folders. - If there is not an appropriate folder, feel free to create one. 2. If you are working on a problem and want to load info for others to look at, create a folder within the 'Problems Being Worked On' folder using the Msg number or you name as the folder name. When the problem is resolved please delete the folder. 3. All files and photos are subject to removal at the moderators discretion. Your Moderators -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - http://www.jmri.org ( http://www.jmri.org ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - https://tamvalleydepot.com/ ( http://tamvalleydepot.com/ ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ( http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - http://www.emra.club/
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ADMIN: >>HOW TO ASK YOUR QUESTION<< - A general reminder for everyone
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====================== HOW to ask your question ====================== One of the most common questions about JMRI is "How do I get it to work?". This isn't really a problem with JMRI itself in most cases, but there are HUGE numbers of possible configurations for DCC systems, and Windows, Linux, and Mac computers out there. Just asking "How do I get it to work" is NOT going to get you any useful help. When asking ANY question, you should >>>utilize a meaningful subject line<<< that indicates the problem and include the following information in the body of the message: + If JMRI has started copy and paste the System Console into the body. (its under help on the start screen) + Has JMRI worked before on this computer? + JMRI version + Previous version if you just upgraded + Java version + Previous version if you just upgraded + Computer make and model + if you have just upgraded, from which version + Any other DCC devices in use + Specific details of your difficulty including error messages if any, or what you would like to do with JMRI. Decoder Programming, Signals, Automation, etc. Depending on the nature of the problem, you may need to supply even more information, but this is the absolute required for anyone to give you accurate answers. Signing you post helps keep the group friendly and personable! Your moderators and trouble shooters.
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Please use "meaningful subject lines" when starting topics
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Please use "meaningful subject lines" when starting topics. We are getting lots of subject lines that don't give much if any idea of what the topic is about. By providing a meaningful subject line you may get the attention of someone that can provide you assistance with your issue. It also give others the chance to skip the topic if it is not of interest to them. -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - https://www.jmri.org ( http://www.jmri.org ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - https://tamvalleydepot.com/ ( http://tamvalleydepot.com/ ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ( http://www.sprog-dcc.co.uk/ ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association - http://www.emra.club/
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ADMIN: PERMITTED TOPICS - A general reminder for everyone
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We would like to point out that this list is for discussions related to JMRI, and is intended to be a place that people, particularly beginners, can turn to for help with their JMRI problems from more experienced JMRI users. General DCC and model railroading topics should be taken to a more appropriate forum and NOT be posted here. SPAM of any kind, politics, legal issues, and other off-topic matters should NOT be posted to the list and will be subject to deletion by the moderators, as will any responses to such off-topic matters. New members still on moderated status will find that off-topic posts will not be approved for posting, and old members making such posts may find themselves back on moderated status. BUY / SELL and ADVERTISING is NOT PERMITTED Let's keep things simple for all of us, and keep the discussion here on-topic. Your moderators
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I want to send a train of loaded coal hoppers from staging to a classification yard. Then, move those cars on a yard local to various industries. I want the yard local to pick up empty coal hoppers at those same industries and bring them back to the classification yard. Finally, send those empty coal hoppers on a third train from the classification yard back to the staging yard. All in the same operating session. I tried it this past week at an operating session by building the first train, printing the manifest, and then moving and terminating the train. Then I built the yard local and repeated the same build/print/move/terminate process. Then I built the third train and printed that manifest. I put the three manifest copies in the stack of manifests used for the session, in the proper sequence. I also printed the switch lists after each build to give to the two yard masters. It's a lot to do and can be confusing to the yard masters. Is their a more elegant way to accomplish all this through Operation Settings, or thr Cars or Locations tables? John P.
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LogixNG class based show/hide and enable/disable for Senor icons requires web page refresh
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I'm using Class based control of layout editor panel icons. In particular show/hide but have also tried enable/disable. e.g. 1: LogixNG: DisableYardRoutes 2: ConditionalNG: EF-L2 ::: Startup 3: ! A 4: Many 5: ! A1 6: If Then Else. Execute on change 7: ? If 8: Sensor TD-EF-L2-Stop is Inactive 9: ! Then 10: Set icon/label by class "DisableableEFL2Sensor" on panel "Exeter Yard Control" to "Hide" 11: ! Else 12: Set icon/label by class "DisableableEFL2Sensor" on panel "Exeter Yard Control" to "Show" 13: ! A2 Whilst the function seem to operate successfully my problem is with display refresh. On the 'native' JMRI panel refresh is delayed until the mouse is moved into panel window. On web browser the situation is worse in that the panel needs a refresh (F5) before the updates take effect. I was hoping to use the method for dynamic control of sensor icon visibility (or to disable sensor), but the web issue especially make me wonder if I'll have to think of another method. I was hoping to use the method to display available options for controlling train movements into and out of fiddle yards. I'm using jmri 5.11.5 with java 21.0.6 under Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS Thanks Andy
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Stoppng train documentation
Hi Steve, Is there any reference documentation or a clinics explaining the principle of train stoppjng under dispatcher using SML? Thanks. -- --------------------------------------------- Jean-Louis Paris-France --------------------------------------------- JRMI 5.9.5 on Windows DCC EX on Arduino Mega Java version 17.1.12
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Hi, Still continuing to test chaining of transits. It look like if you chain a new tansit using "load traininfo” but with a different locomotive, dispatcher doesn't use the new locomotive but continue to run the new transit with the previous locomotive. Any idea? JeanLouisDelestre@... De: "Ken Heywood via groups.io" <kheywood@...> ?: [email protected] Envoyé: Dimanche 23 Mars 2025 07:57:36 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Dispatcher question - chaining transits #dispatcher I use transit actions “load traininfo” and then “terminate” at the end of a transit. This is especially useful when your train has a reversing move. -- Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.1 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu Blog: Cape Cod Railroad (HO) – Newbie of an Oldie Youtube: Ken's Channel -- --------------------------------------------- Jean-Louis Paris-France --------------------------------------------- JRMI 5.9.5 on Windows DCC EX on Arduino Mega Java version 17.1.12
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Windows 11 Questions
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Hi: I'm currently running JMRI Version 5.4 on a Windows 10 PC. I keep getting the upgrade prompts and keep avoiding it. If I upgrade to Win 11, are there any risks? I'm using an NCE Power Pro system, connected via the serial port through a Trip-Lite Keyspan USB serial adapter (other adapters did not work). I'm most concerned that the adapter driver will not transfer to Win 11, and then I'm screwed. (I cannot find a Win 11 driver online). Also, will everything else with the JMRI software work once I upgrade to Win 11? Or will I need to uninstall and reinstall JMRI? Lastly, what are the security risks if I just stay with Win 10? If I don't browse the web, am I safe? Or is simply being connected to the internet create a risk? Thank you, Perry
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I will try to pose the above question as briefly as possible but for a mature lapsed academic that may be a challenge... Our club's new layout we will have an eight track staging yard. From past experience we found the noise of multiple sound equipped DCC engines annoying. Our solution is to use some RR-Cirkits RB4 relay boards populating an RR-Cirkits TowerLCC card and JMRI sensors to toggle track power on (sensor ACTIVE) and off (sensor INACTIVE). Operators at the layout will have tablets running Engine Driver and will have access to all of the panels available at dispatch. We would like the panel for the staging yard to have a mechanism to toggle track power on or off... think local control of staging yard track power. For example we have had great success using block detection to make sure a train exiting a reverse loop has the exit turnout set correctly.... exit block detected... LCC sends the eventID to set the turnout to the correct position... very quick no need for central computer interaction. The panels we built for the previous layout were spot on... animated and informative. Like all things digital there is a slew of JMRI tools to make this happen... internal sensors...jython scripts... logixNG... The dispatch station has three screens and one could be dedicated to all manner of control devices (on/off toggles). The operators have a tablet and only one screen. The dispatch solution would require flipping back and forth between screens. Not necessarily optimal. Simple question... Can you add a SPST switch to a layout editor built panel? Dan Kubasrych ARHS
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can anyone tell me how the speed of a train traveling in automation is determined as it entered each section when using sml virtual signals on a layout panel. there is the speed set in block tables, there is the speed definitions and their speeds and there is the max speed set when creating a train. what is their relationship to each other. in preference /warrents page what is %script mean, what is %throttle mean? tony
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Passenger Car Blocking Order
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I have several passenger trains that perform switching at a station along the route. These passenger trains have a mix of coaches, sleepers, diners, baggage, express reefers and express box cars. To help my crews assemble these cars in the correct order when adding and removing cars, I've added the blocking order to the care type. I thought this would be available to print on manifests and switchlists so the crew would see them and get the cars in the correct order, but I don't see the option to add them to the manifest/switchlist. Is there a way to add this to the either? I'm not sure what purpose this field serves if it's not printed so that crews can take action. Thanks Dennis Coglianese
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Hello, Since Windows 10 is being phased out, I decided to change my laptop to Linux Ubuntu (Cinnamon version). I have found Linux is worlds away from Windows. Anyway, I believe that I have installed JMRI correctly, as it appears all you have to do is extract the tar file and move the folder to wherever you want. When I try to run, for example, PanelPro in the command line I get the following errors. I have no idea what to do. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Tom
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Stopping sensors and speed profile.
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Hi, When you use stopping sensors to stop a train at the right position, is the speed profile used to ramp down the locomotive? Is it used in any case when entering the section? Regards. --------------------------------------------- Jean-Louis Paris-France --------------------------------------------- JRMI 5.9.5 on Windows DCC EX on Arduino Mega Java version 17.1.12
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unknown sensors in table
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I have three BXP88 as occupancy detectors. Their correct sensor numbers show up in my sensor table as they should but there are additional sensors in the table which I have no idea what they are. When I delete them they reappear when I restart. How do I identify them and get rid of them please
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Suggested change to jmri
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in jmri 5.10 when creating a train at the bottom of the window is train length. After entering the data for a train and saving the data upon opening that data the train length has gone back to a default value. is that deliberate or a mistake? When you open a speedometer and enter data and save it , then open 4 speedometers , all have the same data. whats the possibility of saving multiple speedometers ,each with different data, like one saves throttles. tony
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Locomotive disappears from the list in dispatcher
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Hi, When I use the dispatcher, it sometimes happens that when I terminate a train, the locomotive is no longer available in the list to start a new transit. I have to restart JRMI to make the locomotive available again. Any idea? --------------------------------------------- Jean-Louis Paris-France --------------------------------------------- JRMI 5.9.5 on Windows DCC EX on Arduino Mega Java version 17.1.12
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Question about WiFi & JMRI
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HI: A few days ago I asked a question about upgrading to Win 11, but I have some reservations about doing so due to risks of hardware compatibility. So I had a thought about a way to keep Win10 without sacrificing security, but I don't know if it will work. I use cell phones as throttles, so of course I need to be connected to WiFi . If I were to get another WiFi router and set up a second SSID that is local only (not connected to the internet), and connect the cell phones to that WiFi router, will this work for the cell phone throttles? This would allow me to keep my Win 10 machine disconnected to the internet, eliminating ant security threats. Thanks, Perry
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Help learning JMRI
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Hi everyone. Forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong place. I belong to a railroad club which uses JMRI and Digitrax DCC. I am also a novice user and trying to gain more knowledge. My goal is to put JMRI on my home laptop and run the practice (not sure of the name) file so I learn how to use the system. I have Win 10, MSI GS75 Stealth 95E (few years old), have downloaded and installed Java 11, 64 bit. I have an extensive background in computer sciences BSCS, MSCS, and 20 years electronics experience so I'm not totally lost. With that said, JMRI looks intimidating at best. (lol) If someone would help mentor me to getting this installed so I can learn what to do and how to do it I would be greatly thankful. Regards, Jim
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Not keeping my industry full.
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I have an industry that holds 24 tank cars and I want to keep it full during each ops session. I have my planned pick ups on the spur set at 100%, moves along that route set to 48 with random off. I wont be able to swap 24 cars during each session due to max length of train but I would ideally like to roughly pick up 10 and set out another 10 which I have plenty in my yard that are empty. No road restrictions either. What happens on my build is it will have me set out 6 but pick up 12 and it never has me fill that industry again and it stays around 50% full. Am I missing something simple? Thanks, Jason
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