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Graham Orriss
Hi all, Can anybody help?? I am trying to learn logix to set up internal sensors.? I have read the instructions and set up a logix but nothing is happening.? I have three physical LocoNet sensors before the internal sensor I am trying to light up in Dispatcher.? There is also a turnout after the internal sensor.?? What do I put to set up this situation?? Thank you. Graham |
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Graham,
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It is not clear what is the reason for the internal sensor. You can put the LocoNet sensors on a panel. Dispatcher uses internal sensor for direction control but they are not normally visible. If you upload the panel xml file to ProblemsBeingWorkedOn, we can get a better idea of what you are trying to do. Dave Sand On Jul 19, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote: |
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Graham,
The best way to look at Logix is you make groups of Conditionals. Each Conditional has two parts: conditions and actions. The conditions are things like sensors and turnouts that you test for some logical state like true or false. You can use AND and OR or even mixed to build these lines to some logical conclusion. Then the action lines are doing something, like setting turnouts or sensors, etc... based on the conditionals coming as true or false. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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Graham Orriss
Thank you all for your replys.? Am I best to install more physical sensors, which will cost,? If I have a physical sensor on a block, turnout,? track with a block reference, turnout, track with a block reference, turnout, physical sensor on a block, will all this come up in red in Dispatcher?? Steve said he set an internal sensor between two physical sensors.? Thank you Graham
On ?Thursday?, ?19? ?July? ?2018? ?17?:?10?:?42, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:
Graham, The best way to look at Logix is you make groups of Conditionals. Each Conditional has two parts: conditions and actions. The conditions are things like sensors and turnouts that you test for some logical state like true or false. You can use AND and OR or even mixed to build these lines to some logical conclusion. Then the action lines are doing something, like setting turnouts or sensors, etc... based on the conditionals coming as true or false. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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It is possible to use Logix and internal sensors to simulate missing layout sensors. ? The biggest challenge is that you also have to simulate the direction of traffic so that the virtual sensors become active and inactive in the correct sequence. ?Otherwise the block routing breaks down which causes Dispatcher errors. It is a trade off between cost and dependable operation. Dave Sand On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote: |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhat would you use to trigger the missing layout sensor(internal) to be active.Could you say when previous block is occupied to turn the internal sensor active after a delay guessing when the engine would hit the block? What other ways are there that are possible. Tony On Jul 19, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote:
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Graham Orriss
Thank you to everyone that contributed to my problem.? I have at last a train that can go around a loop with Dispatcher and stop in the station and then continue after a time.? I have successfully used physical sensors, internal sensors and logix to accomplish this.? One question remains.? How can I reset each block to inactive in logix, after they go red on layout, so another continuous journey can happen around the loop again?? Thank you all in the User Group.? I couldn't have got this far without you.? Best Wishes Graham Orriss(UK)
On ?Thursday?, ?19? ?July? ?2018? ?18?:?16?:?54, AD <bklyns_baseball_club@...> wrote:
What would you use to trigger the missing layout sensor(internal) to be active. Could you say when previous block is occupied to turn the internal sensor active after a delay guessing when the engine would hit the block? What other ways are there that are possible. Tony On Jul 19, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote:
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You need another conditional in the Logix that makes the internal sensor go inactive when either physical sensor goes inactive. I usually have them delayed 5 seconds before going inactive. Bob Bucklew ----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Orriss via Groups.Io" <graham.orriss@...> To: "jmriusers" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 3:00:20 AM Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Logix Thank you to everyone that contributed to my problem.? I have at last a train that can go around a loop with Dispatcher and stop in the station and then continue after a time.? I have successfully used physical sensors, internal sensors and logix to accomplish this.? One question remains.? How can I reset each block to inactive in logix, after they go red on layout, so another continuous journey can happen around the loop again?? Thank you all in the User Group.? I couldn't have got this far without you.? Best Wishes Graham Orriss(UK) On ?Thursday?, ?19? ?July? ?2018? ?18?:?16?:?54, AD <bklyns_baseball_club@...> wrote: What would you use to trigger the missing layout sensor(internal) to be active.Could you say when previous block is occupied to turn the internal sensor active after a delay guessing when the engine would hit the block? What other ways are there that are possible. Tony On Jul 19, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Dave Sand <ds@...> wrote: Graham, It is possible to use Logix and internal sensors to simulate missing layout sensors. ? The biggest challenge is that you also have to simulate the direction of traffic so that the virtual sensors become active and inactive in the correct sequence. ?Otherwise the block routing breaks down which causes Dispatcher errors. It is a trade off between cost and dependable operation. Dave Sand On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote: Thank you all for your replys. ?Am I best to install more physical sensors, which will cost, ?If I have a physical sensor on a block, turnout, ?track with a?block reference, turnout, track with a block reference, turnout, physical sensor on a block, will all this come up in red in Dispatcher? ?Steve said he set?an internal sensor between two physical sensors.? Thank you Graham On ?Thursday?, ?19? ?July? ?2018? ?17?:?10?:?42, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote: Graham, The best way to look at Logix is you make groups of Conditionals. Each Conditional has two parts: conditions and actions. The conditions are things like sensors and turnouts that you test for some logical state like true or false. You can use AND and OR or even mixed to build these lines to some logical conclusion. Then the action lines are doing something, like setting turnouts or sensors, etc... based on the conditionals coming as true or false. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org |
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