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cfjonesau All Messages By This Member #162947 Currently I have JMRI (on laptop with a loconet cable) working with loconet via a locobuffer. Is it possible to have JMRI (on laptop with a wifi connection) working with loconet by substituting a LNWI to laptop wifi for the wired connection? CFJ
billybob experimenter All Messages By This Member #162948 CFJ, You want to substitute a WiFi connection between your computer and LocoNet instead of a LocoBuffer connection? Remember, the LNWI is primarily intended to provide a mechanism for phones to control locomotives. So the communications protocol is focused on the messaging required to control locomotives. While I have not specifically tested the LNWI and its communication protocol, I _suspect_ that the protocol used by the LNWI will not provide all of the capabilities of a LocoBuffer. For example, I would guess that you could _not_ apply firmware updates to your DCS210/DCS240/DT402/DT500/etc. via the LNWI communication protocol. This is just one of perhaps a hundred different LocoNet messages which I suspect cannot be communicated via the LNWI protocol. Regards, Billybob
cfjonesau All Messages By This Member #162949 Yes. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 19/08/2019 9:55 pm, billybob experimenter wrote: CFJ, You want to substitute a WiFi connection between your computer and LocoNet instead of a LocoBuffer connection? <SNIP> Regards, Billybob
jimalbanowski All Messages By This Member #162950 CF: There's a lot of other information going across the LocoNet interface using the LocoBuffer than a WiFi throttle uses. The LNWI is designed solely for WiFi throttles, though very flexible working with iOS/Android devices quite nicely. While I think it would be possible to write a JMRI throttle connection or the PC or Mac equivalent of WiThrottle or EngineDriver I'm not sure i would be desirable enough to do that... If you want to cut the cord I would look at WiFi (or other radio) USB bridges... PC to widget to radio to widget plugged into the LocoBuffer... Jim Albanowski
billybob experimenter All Messages By This Member #162951 One third-party wireless LocoNet connection device is a LocoNet-Bluetooth "smartphone interface" device from Mollehem. An english web page for this device is at . JMRI supports this device via the "BT-LocoBridge" type of LocoNet interface type. I do not have any practial experience with this product, so cannot advice of its suitability for any particular application. I believe that someone from Mollehem by the name of "Anders" pays attention to this list, and can provide further details. Regards, Billybob
cfjonesau All Messages By This Member #162952 Have a few routers and other stuff laying about so might give that some consideration. Thanks for replies. Regards, CFJ toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 19/08/2019 10:11 pm, jimalbanowski wrote: <SNIP> If you want to cut the cord I would look at WiFi (or other radio) USB bridges... PC to widget to radio to widget plugged into the LocoBuffer... Jim Albanowski
Ken Moordigian Member Profile All Messages By This Member #162956 I have an MGP LocoNet Bridge.? While it's fantastic for setting values and fine tuning MGP components located in a LocoNet;? It's not designed as a layout or locomotive running device.? (In the terminal mode I can throw and close any LocoNet aware turnout, so the possibility is there, but not the implementation.) Ken Moordigian Jackson Livery 818-522-4292 toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Monday, August 19, 2019 billybob experimenter <[email protected]> wrote: One third-party wireless LocoNet connection device is a LocoNet-Bluetooth "smartphone interface" device from Mollehem.? An english web page for this device is at . JMRI supports this device via the "BT-LocoBridge" type of LocoNet interface type. I do not have any practial experience with this product, so cannot advice of its suitability for any particular application.? I believe that someone from Mollehem by the name of "Anders" pays attention to this list, and can provide further details. Regards, Billybob
Nigel Cliffe All Messages By This Member #162963 I can't see the LNWI being any real use here. However, what could work, at broadly similar amounts of money would be: Layout-LocoBuffer-RaspberryPI(running JMRI, connected to WiFi system) Laptop running JMRI, talking via WiFi to RaspberryPI using either screen sharing (VNC and similar), or via the settings for a networked connection between two instances of JMRI. RaspberryPI v3 would be powerful enough, the new v4 has more power. Once configured to run stuff at startup, and with the addition of a shutdown button (numerous cheap solutions on internet), the PI would be an automatic "black box". - Nigel toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of cfjonesau Sent: 19 August 2019 13:35 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI lnwi Have a few routers and other stuff laying about so might give that some consideration. Thanks for replies. Regards, CFJ On 19/08/2019 10:11 pm, jimalbanowski wrote: <SNIP> If you want to cut the cord I would look at WiFi (or other radio) USB bridges... PC to widget to radio to widget plugged into the LocoBuffer... Jim Albanowski
Randall Wood #163001 JMRI supports the LocoNet over TCP protocol, so: - Add a Raspberry Pi running JMRI connected to the LocoBuffer - Configure JMRI on the Raspberry Pi to provide a LocoNet over TCP server on startup - Configure JMRI on the laptop to use the LocoNet over TCP as its connection You now have the Laptop running over WiFi only to control the railroad. Note that you could place some automations in the Raspberry Pi (so the laptop is not needed to run JMRI), while still displaying a panel on the Laptop for manual control.
Jan Carr All Messages By This Member #163007 LNWI is not a substitute for Locobuffer plus a computer's wifi and does not work with JMRI. LNWI is a device that interfaces Loconet to wifi by setting up its own wifi network completely independent of any other wifi network. Your confusion is understandable and common because LNWI works with smart phone apps that were designed to work with JMRI via the host computer's wifi interface (plus a Loconet-computer interface like Locobuffer). But the apps are just throttles and not remote versions of JMRI and furthermore LNWI does not interface with JMRI.? So LNWI is not a useful addition to your setup because it replaces none of your existing hardware or software and adds no new functionality (you can already connect smartphone throttles through your existing wifi and JMRI). Jan
Rob Lerman All Messages By This Member #163010 开云体育 Thank you?again Jan for the information. I was not aware of this prior to purchasing and installing the device.? If I had, I would have thought about this differently. Maybe there might be a JMRI app in the possible future??? ? Thank you again, Rob toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jan Carr <jan.carr20@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:16 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI lnwi ? LNWI is not a substitute for Locobuffer plus a computer's wifi and does not work with JMRI. LNWI is a device that interfaces Loconet to wifi by setting up its own wifi network completely independent of any other wifi network. Your confusion is understandable and common because LNWI works with smart phone apps that were designed to work with JMRI via the host computer's wifi interface (plus a Loconet-computer interface like Locobuffer). But the apps are just throttles and not remote versions of JMRI and furthermore LNWI does not interface with JMRI.? So LNWI is not a useful addition to your setup because it replaces none of your existing hardware or software and adds no new functionality (you can already connect smartphone throttles through your existing wifi and JMRI). Jan
Mick Moignard All Messages By This Member #163034 Unlikely. The LNWI implements the WiThrottle protocol for wireless phone -based throttle apps. It doesn’t implement Loconet on the air. ? The WiThrottle protocol doesn’t do anything other than run trains. Mick ________________________________ Mick Moignard m: +44 7774 652504 Skype: mickmoignard , so please excuse the typos.

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