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HELP! Power unknown issue with JMRI - Trying to use wifi throttle with JMRI and NCE power cab

 

I was able to get the interface to be seen by the computer when running it through the cobalt power box. I could see it through the DecoderPro but when trying to use PanelPro for the wireless throttle i ran into an issue. The button to turn the server on was yellow and i was unable to turn it on or off. It gave me a message saying that power was unknown and to click to turn it off, but that didn't work. I then tried to use the interface normally through just the NCE powerCab and to my surprise the same issue was happening. DecoderPro could see it but i noticed that the power button located on the top right was also yellow.
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My goal is to get WiFi throttle to work but i was unable to even turn on the server through PanelPro and I'm unsure of what the issue is
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Essentially I've hit a wall where I can't seem to power on or see the power status of my NCE when working with the application. I need to find out how to be able to turn this on to see if i can get the WiFi to work with just the NCE System itself.?
 

When starting PanelPro do you see a connected message in the splash pane on start?

If not check preferences that you're correctly set up for USB to the PowerCab.

If you do show connected have you tried running an engine from the PowerCab?

If you can have you tried a throttle in PanelPro?

If all that is working we've verified that the computer is talking to NCE.

If the WiThrottle doesn't start at all I'm not sure yet what to suggest... You have a WiFi throttle and it can see your network?

Try the first tests and we'll try to work through the rest.

Jim Albanowski
 

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My memory says that NCE doesn’t have a track power on/off option. Shifting in and out of programming mode will turnoff track power while programming. But that’s not like a number of other systems.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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As far as I know. Only the ph-pro has the on/off option. The powercab needs the auto switch to turn off track power by diverting power to another output (Program Track).?

John ?Bauchiero
- NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, RasPi4, DCC-EX
- JMRI 5.11.4, Java 17.0.12

On Apr 23, 2025, at 7:34?AM, Ken Cameron via groups.io <kcameron@...> wrote:

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My memory says that NCE doesn’t have a track power on/off option. Shifting in and out of programming mode will turnoff track power while programming. But that’s not like a number of other systems.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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I forgot to mention the soft power switch on JMRI, even with the auto switch on the PowerCab, can NOT control track power. It’s not an option. ?

John ?Bauchiero
- NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, RasPi4, DCC-EX
- JMRI 5.11.4, Java 17.0.12

On Apr 23, 2025, at 11:32?AM, John Bauchiero via groups.io <john4dhmr@...> wrote:

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As far as I know. Only the ph-pro has the on/off option. The powercab needs the auto switch to turn off track power by diverting power to another output (Program Track).?

John ?Bauchiero
- NCE PH-Pro & PowerCab, RasPi4, DCC-EX
- JMRI 5.11.4, Java 17.0.12

On Apr 23, 2025, at 7:34?AM, Ken Cameron via groups.io <kcameron@...> wrote:

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My memory says that NCE doesn’t have a track power on/off option. Shifting in and out of programming mode will turnoff track power while programming. But that’s not like a number of other systems.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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When starting panel pro I do get the connected message on the splash -
active profile: My jmri railroad
nce: USB on com4
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The order in which I did things was turn on the layout with all connections to the board plugged in except for the USB end into the computer. Once the layout was on and had power, I plugged in the USB into the computer and then opened panel pro. (Just adding this because I'm not sure if the order of connections matter).
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All functions work as normal using the power cab and when using a controller through panelpro everything worked fine as well.
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I have the Wi-Fi throttle app on an Android phone. After setting up the app, I can see my railroad server on it. My issue however is I can't turn on the server so I cannot connect my phone to the railroad and thus cannot use the Wi-Fi controller (my phone).
 

After testing the throttle on panel pro. I experienced something very odd.?
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As usual, the power button (that is labeled layout power State) is still yellow and says: layout power State unknown. Click to turn off.?
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Now on the panel pro tab, the power button is basically unresponsive as I've tried numerous times to click on it to turn on to try to use the Wi-Fi.
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Now on the throttle, there's that same power button, which again was unresponsive. This however changed after doing certain steps.?
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I tried clicking on the power button after I tested the throttle with the locomotive I had on my layout and nothing happened. I did happen to then click on one of the function buttons after and noticed that the power button then turned red to the off position. I thought that was odd so I clicked on the power button again to try to see if it turned on (green) but it only turned back to yellow.?
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I then clicked on a function button once again to try to test the sequence again but upon pressing the power it actually turned green to the on position. I also happen to still have the panel pro server screen still open to which the power button on. There was also changing and corresponding with the one on the throttle. Now I didn't test it, but I'm hoping that the server at least turned on like the power button is indicating.
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I tested the sequence a couple times and the same thing happened every time.
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Now I'm not sure what's going on. Is it working? Is something still kind of messed up? So far this is the only way that I've been able to get the power button to change at all (on or off). This would be a really odd way to have to turn on the Wi-Fi every single time.?
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