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Locked Lenz LZV200 v4 and 63 functions #lenz


 

I’m about to upgrade my Lenz LZV200 command station to their v4. One of the new features is support for functions up to F63

Is there anything I need to do to make JMRI and WiThrottle aware or will they automagically notice the increased function support?

Thanks

Phil G


 

OK, so I now have a Lenz LZV200 running their v4 firmware which, among other things, brings 63 functions for each loco

My LH101 recognises the extra functions, but (so far) JMRI does not

I changed a roster entry to use F29 as the sound function, and added a label for F29 to match

Neither WiThrottle nor the internal JMRI throttles show F29 - they top out at F28 as before

SO.......

Is there a setting somewhere in JMRI I need to tweak to get the higher functions, or is this really not yet supported by JMRI?? If so, I'll raise an issue to (hopefully) get it on the list

Fingers crossed

Phil G

On 05/04/2023 21:51, phil@... wrote:
I’m about to upgrade my Lenz LZV200 command station to their v4. One of the new features is support for functions up to F63

Is there anything I need to do to make JMRI and WiThrottle aware or will they automagically notice the increased function support?

Thanks

Phil G

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Phil,

My guess is that JMRI doesn't support it for Lenz LZV200 command station. Maybe even that it isn't supported for XpressNet, but I'm not sure.

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Daniel Bergqvist
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2023-04-13 20:04 skrev Phil G:

OK, so I now have a Lenz LZV200 running their v4 firmware which, among other things, brings 63 functions for each loco
My LH101 recognises the extra functions, but (so far) JMRI does not
I changed a roster entry to use F29 as the sound function, and added a label for F29 to match
Neither WiThrottle nor the internal JMRI throttles show F29 - they top out at F28 as before
SO.......
Is there a setting somewhere in JMRI I need to tweak to get the higher functions, or is this really not yet supported by JMRI?? If so, I'll raise an issue to (hopefully) get it on the list
Fingers crossed
Phil G
On 05/04/2023 21:51, phil@... wrote:
I’m about to upgrade my Lenz LZV200 command station to their v4. One of the new features is support for functions up to F63
Is there anything I need to do to make JMRI and WiThrottle aware or will they automagically notice the increased function support?
Thanks
Phil G
Sent from my iPad


 

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Hi all…

I’m also a (very satisfied) Lenz user with a LZV200 running Ver. 4 software that is described on their website as,

“Software version 4.0 also expands the number of switchable function outputs.?A total of 69 functions can now be addressed in locomotive decoders (F0 to F68).?Please note: The use of 69 functions requires a handheld controller LH101/LH101-R from version 2.1, alternatively the use of the PC interface of the LZV200 or an external interface.”

Although Lenz is presently more popular in Europe than in North America, it now offers a long-awaited wireless throttle available and is a really great product and I would suspect that their newly expanded function base will gain traction with competing manufacturers. ?So I would hope that the JMRI development team would seriously consider revising the functionality for this system as I’d be amazed if other systems aren’t forced to do the same to offer comparable functionality; I would assume that many JMRI users also reside in other areas of the world outside of North America that would benefit as well.

Jim


 

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Thanks. I did mean 69 although my fingers obviously typed 63 for some reason!

Also my LH101 at v2.0 DOES support functions up to 69 despite what the Lenz website says

tbh, 69 is a “bit much” but 28 is becoming limited with increased sound decoder abilities (ESU nit Lenz!) I’m finding I’m running out and could do with at least half a dozen more functions……

Phil G


On 14 Apr 2023, at 00:02, James S. Brown via groups.io <brown3980@...> wrote:

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Hi all…

I’m also a (very satisfied) Lenz user with a LZV200 running Ver. 4 software that is described on their website as,

“Software version 4.0 also expands the number of switchable function outputs.?A total of 69 functions can now be addressed in locomotive decoders (F0 to F68).?Please note: The use of 69 functions requires a handheld controller LH101/LH101-R from version 2.1, alternatively the use of the PC interface of the LZV200 or an external interface.”

Although Lenz is presently more popular in Europe than in North America, it now offers a long-awaited wireless throttle available and is a really great product and I would suspect that their newly expanded function base will gain traction with competing manufacturers. ?So I would hope that the JMRI development team would seriously consider revising the functionality for this system as I’d be amazed if other systems aren’t forced to do the same to offer comparable functionality; I would assume that many JMRI users also reside in other areas of the world outside of North America that would benefit as well.

Jim


 

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I created a new issue to officially request an increase in function support in JMRI

See ?for more details

Phil G


 

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Phil

Can you access these functions with any Lenz/ExpressNet equivalent of the Digitrax Loconet Function Immediate command? ?Works ( Last time I tried, which was a while back) up to F99. ?I used it when older Digitrax gear only went to F12 and I had a decoder capable of F28. Do you have any decoders capable of F29?

Mick

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Not exactly sure what you mean by "function immediate"??

Phil G

On 14/04/2023 18:18, Mick Moignard via groups.io wrote:

Phil

Can you access these functions with any Lenz/ExpressNet equivalent of the Digitrax Loconet Function Immediate command? ?Works ( Last time I tried, which was a while back) up to F99. ?I used it when older Digitrax gear only went to F12 and I had a decoder capable of F28. Do you have any decoders capable of F29?

Mick

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Phil

It may be a Loconet-specific command. Do you have decoders that go over
F28 on a function key?

Mick

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Certainly do - and I can operate an F29 on my Lenz handset - i just can't (currently) find a way for a JMRI throttle to activate F29

Phil G

On 14/04/2023 19:47, Mick Moignard via groups.io wrote:
Phil

It may be a Loconet-specific command. Do you have decoders that go over
F28 on a function key?

Mick

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To anyone else with this same requirement I've just had good news from Bob Jacobsen

" This'll get merged and be in the next test release."

Hows THAT for service???!!!!!

Phil G

On 14/04/2023 12:29, phil@... wrote:
I created a new issue to officially request an increase in function support in JMRI

See more details

Phil G

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Hi Phil – and Bob…

Awesome…and in light of the wonderful support from all involved, it seemed like a good time to pony up and send along my typical annual donation of $20.00!

Thanks, everyone!

Jim


 

All,
Changes have been made in JMRI WiThrottle Server, WiThrottle and EngineDriver to (hopefully) handle the higher functions (or at least quietly ignore them).
Can anyone share a Roster Entry or two that have more than 32 function labels in use? This would be helpful for verifying the changes.
--SteveT


 

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I’ll look at this tonight. Do I need an updated WiThrottle?

Oh, and THANKS

Phil G


On 3 May 2023, at 15:16, Steve Todd via groups.io <mstevetodd@...> wrote:

?All,
Changes have been made in JMRI WiThrottle Server, WiThrottle and EngineDriver to (hopefully) handle the higher functions (or at least quietly ignore them).
Can anyone share a Roster Entry or two that have more than 32 function labels in use? This would be helpful for verifying the changes.
--SteveT


 

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:22 AM, Phil G wrote:
I’ll look at this tonight. Do I need an updated WiThrottle?
I'm not sure where any of the code is as far as getting to production. That's why I'm asking for an example, so I can test.

And thanks go to Brett Hoffman for the JMRI changes.


 

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Ohhhh. ?I misread your question

I’ll send you a roster entry later. From a LokSound 5 that goes at least as far as f31. Would that help?

Phil G


On 3 May 2023, at 15:31, Steve Todd via groups.io <mstevetodd@...> wrote:

?On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:22 AM, Phil G wrote:
I’ll look at this tonight. Do I need an updated WiThrottle?
I'm not sure where any of the code is as far as getting to production. That's why I'm asking for an example, so I can test.

And thanks go to Brett Hoffman for the JMRI changes.


 

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:51 AM, Phil G wrote:
From a LokSound 5 that goes at least as far as f31. Would that help?
Thanks, but I have one of those, I'd like one that has more than 32. This thread led me to believe they existed, maybe they don't (yet).
--SteveT?


 

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Well, it goes from f0 to f31, so that’s 32 functions.?

Let me dig around a bit


On 3 May 2023, at 15:54, Steve Todd via groups.io <mstevetodd@...> wrote:

?On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:51 AM, Phil G wrote:
From a LokSound 5 that goes at least as far as f31. Would that help?
Thanks, but I have one of those, I'd like one that has more than 32. This thread led me to believe they existed, maybe they don't (yet).
--SteveT?


 

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Forgot to add. WiThrottle is currently quitting at f28. Personally I only need up to f31 though, not the full works (yet) - this is the highest I see in my LokSound 5s….

Phil G


On 3 May 2023, at 16:47, Phil G via groups.io <phil@...> wrote:

? Well, it goes from f0 to f31, so that’s 32 functions.?

Let me dig around a bit


On 3 May 2023, at 15:54, Steve Todd via groups.io <mstevetodd@...> wrote:

?On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 07:51 AM, Phil G wrote:
From a LokSound 5 that goes at least as far as f31. Would that help?
Thanks, but I have one of those, I'd like one that has more than 32. This thread led me to believe they existed, maybe they don't (yet).
--SteveT?


 

The only decoders with that many functions that I am aware of are ESU and Marklin. Seeing there was a recent thread about using 63 functions with a Lenz controller I assume they have a decoder capab;le of that many functions, Zimo might also have one capable of more than F31.


On Wed, 3 May 2023 at 16:47, Phil G <phil@...> wrote:
Well, it goes from f0 to f31, so that’s 32 functions.?