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Locked NCE USB Interface


 

Hi everyone,

I am having difficulty in connecting my NCE USB interface to JRMI. I have had a look at previous posts but i cant find a solution.

I am using the NCE PowerCab v 1.65
and USB interface 7.x.x

windows 10 with jmri 4.12 and java 1.8.0_192.

I have none of the jumpers on the interface and the interface shows up in windows device manager.
The port under the connections tab of jmri shows com3 which device manager also shows however, JMRI says that it cant reach the nce command station or that there is a time out to the AA message.

Any assistance would be greatfully recieved.


 

I just installed the USB interface with the same NCE cab version and found I needed jumpers on 3 and 4.
--
Nick


 

Jamie,

With no jumpers on the interface, the settings in JMRI should be 9600 baud.
Your settings for the rest would be PowerCab and 1.65 version. Key isn't if
you still get the AA messages at this time, instead watch for:

Led's on the interface getting stuck on.
Failing to get an identification message of 6.2.* or 7.3.* from the
interface.

The later says we are never heading anything from the interface. The former
says something is causing the interface to lock up. Dave may have better
ideas on those.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


 

PS: Since you were already talking about the AA messages, I presumed you are
reading the system console (under help). That is where the id message should
show. This helps us know if we are at least talking to the interface or not.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


 

Those settings are not correct.
--
Dave in Australia

On 27 Nov 2018, at 7:31 AM, Nick Ostrosky <nick79ostr@...> wrote:

I just installed the USB interface with the same NCE cab version and found I needed jumpers on 3 and 4.


 

Changing the baud rate in the PC is a waste of time. JMRI (correctly) overrides that setting. You need to match the baud rate between JMRI and the NCE USB
--
Dave in Australia

On 27 Nov 2018, at 8:12 AM, Brian Jackson via Groups.Io <brian.jackson@...> wrote:

You also need to ensure that both the PC and JMRI are both set to baud rate of 19200.


 

Configuration Instructions
===================

Here are the best settings for JMRI and jumpers for Power Cab (and also SB5).

Make sure you always unplug/replug both cables on the NCE USB after changing jumpers.

It also explains how to read the version of your NCE USB (only the first digit counts, the last three report how your jumpers 2-4 are set and jumper 1 is ignored on all systems).


Power Cab Instructions
=================
The correct settings for a Power Cab V1.65 or V1.28 (as shown when the Power Cab starts up) and an NCE USB V6 (or you are not sure of the USB version) are:
- All USB Jumpers off (or at least 2, 3 & 4. Jumper 1 is ignored).
- JMRI preferences are:
-- System manufacturer: NCE
-- System connection: NCE USB
-- Serial port: <whatever is appropriate for your system>
-- USB version: V6.x.x
-- System: PowerCab
-- Additional Connection Settings checkbox ON
--- Baud rate: 9600.

The JMRI console log should then report V6.3.0. If it reports V7.3.0 and your Power Cab is V1.65, use the settings below instead.
If you don't get a version number or the system does not work, Use Help->System Console...->Copy to clipboard and paste into a post for us to see.

The correct settings for a Power Cab V1.65 or V1.65b and an NCE USB V7 are:
- All USB Jumpers on (or at least 2, 3 & 4. Jumper 1 is ignored).
- JMRI preferences are:
-- System manufacturer: NCE
-- System connection: NCE USB
-- Serial port: <whatever is appropriate for your system>
-- USB version: V7.x.x
-- System: PowerCab
-- Additional Connection Settings checkbox ON
--- Baud rate: 19200.

The JMRI console log should then report V7.3.7.

SB5 Instructions
============
The correct settings for an SB5 and an NCE USB V7 are:
- USB Jumper 4 on. All others off (or at least 2 & 3. Jumper 1 is ignored).
- JMRI preferences are:
-- System manufacturer: NCE
-- System connection: NCE USB
-- Serial port: <whatever is appropriate for your system>
-- USB version: V7.x.x
-- System: SB5
-- Additional Connection Settings checkbox ON
--- Baud rate: 19200.

The JMRI console log should then report V7.3.1.

General Troubleshooting
==================

If the system does not work after this:
- If your SB5/Power Cab is V1.65 rather than V1.65B, you may have been affected by a firmware issue (triggered by a System Reset).
- Your NCE USB may be set to a bad cab address (V7 only).
- There is a potential hardware issue with the NCE USB/Power Cab combination.
In either case, go through the following :
- Quit JMRI.
- Ensure neither LED on the NCE USB is stuck ON. If so, power cycle the USB by unplugging it from the cab bus cable.
- Ensure you have no other throttles connected.
- Restart JMRI and immediately go to Configure USB Interface under the NCE menu.
- Set the Cab ID to 3.
- Attempt a JMRI operation (use a throttle, Identify a decoder).
- The status line should stay green and it should work
-If this does not work, do not fiddle with any other settings but instead:
-- Observe whether the Cab Bus LED on the NCE USB is stuck on and report back.
-- Use Help->System Console...->Copy to clipboard and paste into a post for us to see.
--
Dave in Australia

On 27 Nov 2018, at 4:48 AM, jamie.coupe@... wrote:

I am having difficulty in connecting my NCE USB interface to JRMI. I have had a look at previous posts but i cant find a solution.

I am using the NCE PowerCab v 1.65
and USB interface 7.x.x

windows 10 with jmri 4.12 and java 1.8.0_192.