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Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?
Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
If there's a way around this, do please tell.
New Year Felicitations
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Could you tell us a little bit more about your PC? Oracle’s Java 11 might not support your PC, but the Java 11 from some other vendors go back quite far: Bob On Jan 8, 2025, at 11:39?AM, Ian W via groups.io <ian@...> wrote:
Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?
Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
If there's a way around this, do please tell.
New Year Felicitations
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I'm running Azuls JAVA 17 on Windows 8 if that helps.....
Phil G
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On 08/01/2025 16:47, Bob Jacobsen via groups.io wrote: Could you tell us a little bit more about your PC?
Oracle’s Java 11 might not support your PC, but the Java 11 from some other vendors go back quite far:
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On Jan 8, 2025, at 11:39?AM, Ian W via groups.io <ian@...> wrote:
Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?
Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
If there's a way around this, do please tell.
New Year Felicitations
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Phil, That's the one you want to be running right now. It's the recommended version.
I'm running Azuls JAVA 17 on Windows 8 if that helps.....
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>> Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
>> If there's a way around this, do please tell.
>> New Year Felicitations
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On 8 Jan 2025, at 19:40, John Griffin via groups.io <johng.sst@...> wrote:
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That's the one you want to be running right now. It's the recommended version.
I'm running Azuls JAVA 17 on Windows 8 if that helps.....
Phil G
On 08/01/2025 16:47, Bob Jacobsen via wrote:
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>> Am I right in believing that latest decoder definitions are available ONLY in the most recent release of JMRI?
>> Although my PC is no dinosaur, I am told that Java 8 is the latest version it will handle, and that in turn restricts me to JMRI 4.2.6 and, for example, I am unable to get definitions for Digitrax SDH167D; the nearest my JMRI offers is SDH164D.
>> If there's a way around this, do please tell.
>> New Year Felicitations
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Just a note to the group.
I am using an older Dell 64bit PC with Win10 and was also limited to Oracles Java8!
I just removed Java8 with oracles uninstall and was successful in downloading Azuls JAVA 11 and then loaded JMRI 5.1
Everything worked first try!
Now I have a dedicated computer with a large bright display for just running the layout!
Thanks to you folks that provided some direction and answers to the group!
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To Bob: I'm running Windows 10 on an Intel i5-8500T @ 2.11 GHz, supported by 16 GB RAM; 64-bit OS, which doesn't seem too shabby to me.
If Java is available from other vendors (I had no idea), and if Phil G is able to run Java 17 on Windows 8 (!), then there's something here to be investigated.
Phil G: exciting! Can you tell us whose Java 17 you're using?
Thanks, guys.
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Phil G, thanks for mentioning Azuls Java 17. I'll investigate that.
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Ian, Please have a look at this page. -- Peter Ulvestad Linux Mint 22, JMRI 5.11.1plus, Java 21.0.5 JMRI Users Group Moderator ( /g/jmriusers ) JMRI Developers Group Moderator ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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Been using Azuls for the last 3 or 4 years
8 then 11 now 17 ??
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To Bob: I'm running Windows 10 on an Intel i5-8500T @ 2.11 GHz, supported by 16 GB RAM; 64-bit OS, which doesn't seem too shabby to me.
If Java is available from other vendors (I had no idea), and if Phil G is able to run Java 17 on Windows 8 (!), then there's something here to be investigated.
Phil G: exciting! Can you tell us whose Java 17 you're using?
Thanks, guys.
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Peter, thanks for the signposts. I wasn't aware that Java was available from anyone other than Oracle; also the distinction between JRE and JDK is valuable. It appears to be necessary to sign up with Azul to get the download. When I find my lucky rabbit's foot, I'll set about the task.
Thanks, all, for comments.
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On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 09:10 AM, Ian W wrote:
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If Java is available from other vendors (I had no idea), and if Phil G is able to run Java 17 on Windows 8 (!), then there's something here to be investigated.
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It's mentioned, with a link, in bold even, with the release notes for each release. You DO read the release notes, right?
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You only need to sign up if you want update reminders. I don’t, so I didn’t
Just be sure you download the .msi file. ?When it’s downloaded, double click to ?install. Oh and be sure to install ANY existing JAVA first. If in doubt run “Java -version” in a command windows. If JAVA is uninstalled you’ll get an error
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Peter, thanks for the signposts. I wasn't aware that Java was available from anyone other than Oracle; also the distinction between JRE and JDK is valuable. It appears to be necessary to sign up with Azul to get the download. When I find my lucky rabbit's
foot, I'll set about the task.
Thanks, all, for comments.
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Ian,
Azul does NOT have a sign up requirement. ?Just click on "Download Now". ?They do offer other services, but you don't need them.
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Getting latest decoder definitions vs. JMRI release vs. Java version
Date: Thursday, January 09, 2025 11:50 AM
Peter, thanks for the signposts. I wasn't aware that Java was available from anyone other than Oracle; also the distinction between JRE and JDK is valuable. It appears to be necessary to sign up with Azul to get the download. When I find my lucky rabbit's foot, I'll set about the task.
Thanks, all, for comments.
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All,
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I think Phil G means to UNinstall any existing Java version before installing the latest one.
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At least people are reading my replies ;)
Phil G
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On 09/01/2025 18:20, Blair via groups.io wrote: Perhaps you meant Uninstall...
On 09/01/2025 12:54, Phil G via groups.io wrote:
Oh and be sure to install ANY existing JAVA first.
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