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No but all this wacky actions and continuing look at me pronouncements distract from normal enough to make normal not happen!
Many thanks!
Robert Durnford
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On Mar 11, 2025, at 08:01, Peter Rasmusen via groups.io <peter@...> wrote:
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Correct!
Wacky is a bit of an understatement
Bob
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On Mar 11, 2025, at 8:40 AM, Robert Durnford via groups.io <rxd@...> wrote:
No but all this wacky actions and continuing look at me pronouncements distract from normal enough to make normal not happen!
Many thanks!
Robert Durnford
On Mar 11, 2025, at 08:01, Peter Rasmusen via groups.io <peter@...> wrote:
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I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
All 4 of the lists I am on are very quiet.?
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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W.C. Fields said it best: “ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
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“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
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I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.? Ellen?
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On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:
? W.C. Fields said it best: “ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
***
“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
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Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?
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On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
? I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.? Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15 On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:
? W.C. Fields said it best: “ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
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“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
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Ahhhhhhhhh, yes. He did say that.
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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On Mar 11, 2025, at 1:48 PM, kurt youngmann < tgobbi@...> wrote:
W.C. Fields said it best: “ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via < whodo678@...> wrote:
I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
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“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
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Please keep your political opinions to yourself, Ellen. ?This is iomug, not X or Reddit.
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On 11 Mar 2025, at 22.27, Susan Tropeano via groups.io <stropeano@...> wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
? I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.? Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15 On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:
? W.C. Fields said it best: “ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
***
“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
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LOL, me too
On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via
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Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original
post to be intended as a joke.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen
Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
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I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down.
I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be
surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left
would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this
has come up.?
Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt
youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...>
wrote:
?
W.C. Fields said it best: “ If
you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with
bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann
On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via
groups.io <whodo678@...>
wrote:
I
think people are just aw struck, and their
attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle
people with bull, so they don’t have time to
notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
***
“The
fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the
modern world?the stupid are cocksure while
the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand
Russell
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I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.? Ellen?
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On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:
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LOL, me too
On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via
groups.io wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original
post to be intended as a joke.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen
Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
?
I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down.
I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be
surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left
would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this
has come up.?
Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt
youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...>
wrote:
?
W.C. Fields said it best: “ If
you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with
bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann
On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via
groups.io <whodo678@...>
wrote:
I
think people are just aw struck, and their
attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle
people with bull, so they don’t have time to
notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
***
“The
fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the
modern world?the stupid are cocksure while
the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand
Russell
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But yet you did…
?But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Roger On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:30?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.? Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15 On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:
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LOL, me too
On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via
groups.io wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original
post to be intended as a joke.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen
Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
?
I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down.
I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be
surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left
would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this
has come up.?
Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt
youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...>
wrote:
?
W.C. Fields said it best: “ If
you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with
bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann
On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via
groups.io <whodo678@...>
wrote:
I
think people are just aw struck, and their
attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle
people with bull, so they don’t have time to
notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
***
“The
fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the
modern world?the stupid are cocksure while
the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand
Russell
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That is my honest opinion to the person who brought it up. Who should not bring up such ideas here in the first place. ?Ellen?
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On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:33?AM, Roger Moffat via groups.io <rogerkiwi@...> wrote:
? But yet you did…
?But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Roger On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:30?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.? Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15 On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:
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LOL, me too
On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via
groups.io wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original
post to be intended as a joke.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen
Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
?
I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down.
I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be
surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left
would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this
has come up.?
Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt
youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...>
wrote:
?
W.C. Fields said it best: “ If
you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with
bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann
On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via
groups.io <whodo678@...>
wrote:
I
think people are just aw struck, and their
attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle
people with bull, so they don’t have time to
notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?
***
“The
fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the
modern world?the stupid are cocksure while
the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand
Russell
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On Mar 11, 2025, at 1:08 PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
All 4 of the lists I am on are very quiet. Those of us who are Macintosh enthusiasts (and who don’t think of the Mac simply as an appliance), and who participate on e-mail discussion lists and/or in Mac User Groups, tend to be baby boomers. And we are aging out, or dying out. Younger folks are, generally, not replacing us. Lots of folks who used to dominate this discussion list, and others that I’m on, have disappeared. Some years ago. A few of the lists that I’m on have become moribund. If I don’t post to them, no one else does. Even my Mac discussion list for Mac-using attorneys is lagging. Younger attorneys aren’t joining. In fact, new subscriptions have just about entirely stopped. We have a local Macintosh User Group in (nearby to me) Davis. It is within a few blocks of the U.C. Davis campus. Yet we have been unable to attract a single student. It’s all boomers. I suspect that 10 years or so from now that all of these Macintosh discussion lists will be gone, and probably just about all Mac user groups too. __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Come on, folks. Knock it off. You can see from the thread that Ellen did not start this. Carroll
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On Mar 12, 2025, at 8:41?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
That is my honest opinion to the person who brought it up. Who should not bring up such ideas here in the first place. ?Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15 On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:33?AM, Roger Moffat via groups.io <rogerkiwi@...> wrote:
? But yet you did…
?But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Roger On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:30?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.? Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15 On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:
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LOL, me too
On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via
groups.io wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original
post to be intended as a joke.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen
Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:
?
I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down.
I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be
surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left
would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this
has come up.?
Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt
youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...>
wrote:
?
W.C. Fields said it best: “ If
you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with
bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann
On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via
groups.io <whodo678@...>
wrote:
I
think people are just aw struck, and their
attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle
people with bull, so they don’t have time to
notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.
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Yes, I noticed this years ago with both lists and MUGs. If there was a younger person, it was a grandchild of one of the members. Now the grandchild is a boomer and no where to be found.?
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:51 AM, Randy B. Singer via < randy@...> wrote:
On Mar 11, 2025, at 1:08 PM, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:
All 4 of the lists I am on are very quiet.
Those of us who are Macintosh enthusiasts (and who don’t think of the Mac simply as an appliance), and who participate on e-mail discussion lists and/or in Mac User Groups, tend to be baby boomers. ?And we are aging out, or dying out. ?Younger folks are, generally, not replacing us. Lots of folks who used to dominate this discussion list, and others that I’m on, have disappeared. ?Some years ago. A few of the lists that I’m on have become moribund. ?If I don’t post to them, no one else does. Even my Mac discussion list for Mac-using attorneys is lagging. ?Younger attorneys aren’t joining. ?In fact, new subscriptions have just about entirely stopped. We have a local Macintosh User Group in (nearby to me) Davis. ?It is within a few blocks of the U.C. Davis campus. ?Yet we have been unable to attract a single student. ?It’s all boomers. I suspect that 10 years or so from now that all of these Macintosh discussion lists will be gone, and probably just about all Mac user groups too. __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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It is time to let this thread drop.
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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Come on, folks. Knock it off. You can see from the thread that Ellen did not start this. Carroll
That is my honest opinion to the person who brought it up. Who should not bring up such ideas here in the first place. ?Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15 On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:33?AM, Roger Moffat via <rogerkiwi@...> wrote:
? But yet you did…
?But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Roger
I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.? Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15 On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:
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LOL, me too
On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via
wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original
post to be intended as a joke.?
On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen
Lerner via <iomug@...> wrote:
?
I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down.
I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be
surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left
would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this
has come up.?
Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt
youngmann via <tgobbi@...>
wrote:
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W.C. Fields said it best: “ If
you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with
bulls**t”
Kurt Youngmann
I
think people are just aw struck, and their
attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle
people with bull, so they don’t have time to
notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.
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It was only a joke, lighthearted, non confrontational, and only in the subject line. Geesh!
But then again, first they came for you iBook’s, then they came for you Newton’s, until they finally came for your iPod’s.
—罢辞苍测—
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On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:41?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
That is my honest opinion to the person who brought it up. Who should not bring up such ideas here in the first place. ?Ellen
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Thanks, Tony. ?Wiser heads must prevail or we are all lost.
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Brent
Bob Gerard
Ellen Lerner