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so not exactly?Mac, but I'm having issues printing from my macs...?
Story:? Verizon has sent me 4 routers, and they all fail to keep a 2.4ghz band working. The 5ghz is consistent.? So, one solution is for me to simply add a 2.4ghz separate router.? The need is for my wifi printer and also a few IOT devices, including a wifi thermostat, which all use 2.4 and not 5.?
Ok, so I bought a small 2.4 only router. plugged it into?ethernet.? Attached devices, and they get internet and connect ok - EXCEPT that the printer, which?in the 2.4ghz router (NOT the guest network) is not visible to the rest of the network.? Am I misunderstanding how the router works? that the printer should?be visible to the whole network when it's connected through the regular 2.4 ghz band of a router?that is on my ethernet??
What does work, is if I make the mac mini connect to the 2.4 ghz wifi, then it also sees the printer, but only if they are on the exact same wifi band.? that is less than ideal for other reasons.?
thanks for any tips.?
Jeff?
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If this setup would work at all, I think you would have to put the 2.4 router in bridge mode.
Are you renting the Verizon routers? If so, would it not be cheaper to own your own device?
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so not exactly?Mac, but I'm having issues printing from my macs...?
Story:? Verizon has sent me 4 routers, and they all fail to keep a 2.4ghz band working. The 5ghz is consistent.? So, one solution is for me to simply add a 2.4ghz separate router.? The need is for my wifi printer and also a few IOT devices, including a wifi thermostat, which all use 2.4 and not 5.?
Ok, so I bought a small 2.4 only router. plugged it into?ethernet.? Attached devices, and they get internet and connect ok - EXCEPT that the printer, which?in the 2.4ghz router (NOT the guest network) is not visible to the rest of the network.? Am I misunderstanding how the router works? that the printer should?be visible to the whole network when it's connected through the regular 2.4 ghz band of a router?that is on my ethernet??
What does work, is if I make the mac mini connect to the 2.4 ghz wifi, then it also sees the printer, but only if they are on the exact same wifi band.? that is less than ideal for other reasons.?
thanks for any tips.?
Jeff?
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Their current deal is that the router is included with my FIOS. I used to own the routers, it was better than the rental deal.?
I will look at the bridge mode.?
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My ISP is Compost, uh, I mean Comcast/Xfinity. And they insist that I use this huge Gateway box, since I am using Internet Essentials. I don’t pay a rental fee, and they imply that I have to use their device, and their current device authorization requires a QR code on the device.? I changed the name on the WiFi network it set up, then completely ignore it. I never connect to it. I then run an Ethernet cable to my Apple Airport, or any other router/WiFi device and use that Wifi network.?
In effect, all their provided 12” x 12” x 1.5” multi-purpose device does is the gateway function. It connects me to their service. I don’t use it as a WiFi device. I shut off the public Wifi function. I don’t use either the Ethernet or Wifi router function. I don’t use the VOIP function.?
I only use the gateway function and pass-thru to my router.?
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On Jul 28, 2023, at 08:09, Jeff Kidman <jeffkidman@...> wrote:
?Their current deal is that the router is included with my FIOS. I used to own the routers, it was better than the rental deal.?
I will look at the bridge mode.?
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so, turns out that setting up the new router as an Access Point fixed the issue, the printer is now on the 2.4 and available to the whole network. Everything is working as expected. other than Verizon, but yeah.?
Jeff?
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On Jul 29, 2023, at 11:50, Jeff Kidman <jeffkidman@...> wrote:
so, turns out that setting up the new router as an Access Point fixed the issue, the printer is now on the 2.4 and available to the whole network. Everything is working as expected. other than Verizon, but yeah.?
I meant to reply to this thread, Jeff, but forgot. ?
Like you I have Verizon FiOS and a router I purchased from Verizon.
The Verizon WiFi signal was quite week three floors down where we have our TV so I bought this router which got great reviews for the strength of it’s WiFi signal and was, at that time, top rated by the Wirecutter.com
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Here was the way I set it up, as a Wireless Access Point [visuals are from the Synology router page]
Multiple Mac computers, iPhones, an iPad, and an Apple Watch all connect just fine on either the 2.4 or 5 network.
Bob
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“They say the Lord?answers all our?prayers, it’s just that?sometimes he?answers no.”
- Amor Towles
Please describe how you set the new router as an Access Point. I don’t understand the term or phrase.?
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On Jul 29, 2023, at 08:50, Jeff Kidman <jeffkidman@...> wrote:
?so, turns out that setting up fixed the issue, the printer is now on the 2.4 and available to the whole network. Everything is working as expected. other than Verizon, but yeah.?
Jeff?
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On Jul 30, 2023, at 2:09 AM, Brent via < whodo678@...> wrote:
Please describe how you set the new router as an Access Point. I don’t understand the term or phrase.?
Easy-peasy…once you sort it all out, which took me a while to do.
Connect the original router to the new router by an Ethernet cable from a LAN port in the first router to a WAN port in the second then access the first one and turn off the WiFi.
The routing table is still done via the first router. ?
Bob
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“ A man sees in the?world what he?carries in his heart.”
— Goethe,?Faust
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I have been doing that since WiFi has been available. Just never remember calling it that. I have always either turned off the WiFi capability or ignore it in any modem or gateway device other than an Apple Airport, since I line in an 800 sq ft apartment. But I like to keep some what up to date, as it is getting long in the….?
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On Jul 30, 2023, at 04:40, Bob Gerard <rowerbob@...> wrote:
? On Jul 30, 2023, at 2:09 AM, Brent via < whodo678@...> wrote:
Please describe how you set the new router as an Access Point. I don’t understand the term or phrase.?
Easy-peasy…once you sort it all out, which took me a while to do.
Connect the original router to the new router by an Ethernet cable from a LAN port in the first router to a WAN port in the second then access the first one and turn off the WiFi.
The routing table is still done via the first router. ?
Bob
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“ A man sees in the?world what he?carries in his heart.”
— Goethe,?Faust
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On Jul 30, 2023, at 2:09 AM, Brent via < whodo678@...> wrote:
Please describe how you set the new router as an Access Point. I don’t understand the term or phrase.?
Easy-peasy…once you sort it all out, which took me a while to do.
Connect the original router to the new router by an Ethernet cable from a LAN port in the first router to a WAN port in the second then access the first one and turn off the WiFi.
The routing table is still done via the first router. ?
There’s another way of doing this, depending on what short of device the ISP gives you. You might be able to switch that to “modem-only”, connect to your other router using ethernet, and use that as router, switch, and wi-fi access point. All your local network is still controlled by one device, just not the one from the ISP. That’s what we do, with a Synology RT2600AC as it happens.
Otto
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On Jul 31, 2023, at 05:55, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
There’s another way of doing this, depending on what short of device the ISP gives you. You might be able to switch that to “modem-only”, connect to your other router using ethernet, and use that as router, switch, and wi-fi access point. All your local network is still controlled by one device, just not the one from the ISP. That’s what we do, with a Synology RT2600AC as it happens.
Well, that’s interesting, Otto. Tell me if you would, are there advantages to doing it the way you are doing it vice the way I ?have mine set up?
The router I purchased from Verizon is an ?Actiontec M1424WR Rev I GigE ? If there are advantages, do you have the time to explain how to do that???
Many thanks.
Bob
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“They say the Lord?answers all our?prayers, it’s just that?sometimes he?answers no.”
- Amor Towles
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On 31 Jul 2023, at 12:17, Bob Gerard <rowerbob@...> wrote:
Well, that’s interesting, Otto. Tell me if you would, are there advantages to doing it the way you are doing it vice the way I have mine set up?
The router I purchased from Verizon is an Actiontec M1424WR Rev I GigE
If there are advantages, do you have the time to explain how to do that???
The advantage, as I see it, is that all your LAN management is done in the one device, so you don’t have to go into one for managing, say ethernet, and the other for wi-fi. Where do you manage port forwarding, if any, for example? Also, the device from your ISP might have only 100 Mb ports; the one you buy will probably have Gigabit. I’ve done some basic searches and I can’t find any reference to modem-only for your Actiontec, so I don’t know if it’s possible. Our ISP, Virgin Media, supplies “Super Hubs” made by Arris, previously by Netgear; these have always had the option to enable modem-only. Otto
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