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Vince, I am not suggesting that Sequoia is particularly buggy, just that it has made changes in workflow, where certain behind the curtain things are located, in the evolution of the OS, and possibly names.?
When whole number upgrades are released, Apple may reset some default settings, so they can showcase new features, thus resulting in possible interruption of personal work flows.?
And Sequoia is a major, whole number upgrade.?
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On Dec 13, 2024, at 10:04, Vince Winterling via groups.io <vincentwinterling@...> wrote:
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All is well with Sequoia non-beta and with the betas. As you might expect, some of the? betas have bugs but run and report is my approach to testing, unless you’re paying me to spend time fixing it.
M2 16/512 MacBook Air. (A beautiful machine I might add.)
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Vineland, NJ
I can’t help explain it to you, but a lot of how things are done and where they are stored in Sequoia have change.
I’m still on Catalina, where we still have System Preferences, instead of System Settings. The next OS was the beginning of a major change, and Sequoia appears to be the beginning of an even bigger change.
How’s it out there on the bleeding edge?
Brent
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All is well with Sequoia non-beta and with the betas. As you might expect, some of the? betas have bugs but run and report is my approach to testing, unless you’re paying me to spend time fixing it.
M2 16/512 MacBook Air. (A beautiful machine I might add.)
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Vincent Winterling
Vineland, NJ
I can’t help explain it to you, but a lot of how things are done and where they are stored in Sequoia have change.
I’m still on Catalina, where we still have System Preferences, instead of System Settings. The next OS was the beginning of a major change, and Sequoia appears to be the beginning of an even bigger change.
How’s it out there on the bleeding edge?
Brent
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I can’t help explain it to you, but a lot of how things are done and where they are stored in Sequoia have change.
I’m still on Catalina, where we still have System Preferences, instead of System Settings. The next OS was the beginning of a major change, and Sequoia appears to be the beginning of an even bigger change.
How’s it out there on the bleeding edge?
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Dec 13, 2024, at 02:23, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:
?Hmm … still confused.
I find, that some passwords to websites are not to be found in Keychain but can be fpund i Safari->Settings->Passwords … which as I look at it says “All Your Passwords in One Place” … how is that supposed to be understood?
Also .. when I click on Keychain Access (Macintosh HD -> System -> Library -> CoreServices -> Applications -> Keychain Access.app ... how did it end up there? Didn’t it use to be in Applications -> Utilities? ) it asks me if I want to open Passwords or Keychain Access. Passwords appears to be a new App that is located in the Apps folder.
I’d really like to know how all this works … how many places do i actually store passwords? In Passwords= In Keychain? In browsers?
Does anybody know how this works? Or has a link to an explanation somewhere?
:-)
Peter
On 13 Dec 2024, at 10.18, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
When you store passwords “in your Mac browser,” these are actually stored in your keychain, sometimes in a blob associated with the browser (e.g., Chrome Safe Storage). As long as you don’t sign into Google in Chrome nor use iCloud Keychain, your passwords will remain local only.
On macOS 15, you can use the Passwords all with Chrome and Firefox, as well as Safari, as you wish.
I trust the cloud security providers to which I subscribe, such as iCloud and 1Password. I primarily keep my passwords and other private items in 1Password.
On Dec 13, 2024, at 01:02, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote: ?
Hello friends
I have this question, that have bothered me for a while.
I use Keychain to save passwords, and would like to do it as the default place to save passwords, that I can unlock with my fingerprint og password. But some passwords to e.g. websites or servers or services that I access trough a browser (Safari and Chrome) are not stored in Keychain, but in the browser.
I would like NOT to have passwords stored in my browser, I’d like to have them safely locked away in my Keychain. is there a way to do that?
Is i’t OK to have them in the browser? Security-wise?
What do other peopole do?
It I start usind a password manager - like LastPass, 1password, VaultWarden, Dashlane … will they be stored on my comouter or somewhere in the cloud? Is that safer than Keychain?
I’m on a 14” MBP with M2 Max, 32/2000 running Sequoia 15.2
Looking forward to your input and experiences
Peter
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In general, I don’t want any of my passwords , and as few of my documents stored on someone else's server or cloud, period.
They are a bigger target than your devices, and more likely to be attacked or hacked.
I look for a password manager that I can opt-out of syncing with the cloud, that I can have on several of my devices like computer and cellphone, across platforms and OS versions, and I can manually sync without an internet connection. Which means it has to be done with a cable or WiFi. I do NOT want it auto-fill, that way I have to fill it manually. Basically I want an air-gap, and second or two delay, so I use the air-gap between my ears, along with my suspicious nature as security measures.
You have to choose a compromise between security and convenience. Saving anything on a google server, like on the Chrome browser, is way beyond my comfort level.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Dec 13, 2024, at 01:02, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:
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Hello friends
I have this question, that have bothered me for a while.
I use Keychain to save passwords, and would like to do it as the default place to save passwords, that I can unlock with my fingerprint og password. But some passwords to e.g. websites or servers or services that I access trough a browser (Safari and Chrome) are not stored in Keychain, but in the browser.
I would like NOT to have passwords stored in my browser, I’d like to have them safely locked away in my Keychain. is there a way to do that?
Is i’t OK to have them in the browser? Security-wise?
What do other peopole do?
It I start usind a password manager - like LastPass, 1password, VaultWarden, Dashlane … will they be stored on my comouter or somewhere in the cloud? Is that safer than Keychain?
I’m on a 14” MBP with M2 Max, 32/2000 running Sequoia 15.2
Looking forward to your input and experiences
Peter
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On Dec 13, 2024, at 10:16?AM, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:
As I understand it (and I could be wrong), the Passwords app has now replaced Keychain. There are no more passwords in Safari, they are all in the Passwords app.
Under System Settings in Sequoia 15.2, click on General > AutoFill & Passwords and you will now find a link to the Passwords app. No more Keychain, as far as I can see, anyway.
There is an extension for FireFox that will connect it to Passwords. Called “iCloud Passwords.” Don’t know about other browsers.
Jerry
On Dec 13, 2024, at 7:38?AM, Budd Turner via groups.io <n7eoj@...> wrote:
I had forgotten Safari saves passwords. ?
I always assumed they went to the Keychain. ?
Safari 18.2 Passwords on my 15.2 iMac are linked to the Passwords application.
Logins have been conveniently facilitated to two touches, with Touch ID & Passwords.
I installed the 1Password stand alone application, long ago on my early iPads.
When they updated and didn't mention it became a $35/month subscription, I bailed.
It still works fine, and was the iPad's main use, until Passwords was added to MacOS.
"Every storm runs out of rain." ?Maya Angelou (American poet, memoirist, and civil rights activist.)
As I understand it (and I could be wrong), the Passwords app has now replaced Keychain. There are no more passwords in Safari, they are all in the Passwords app.
Under System Settings in Sequoia 15.2, click on General > AutoFill & Passwords and you will now find a link to the Passwords app. No more Keychain, as far as I can see, anyway.
There is an extension for FireFox that will connect it to Passwords. Called “iCloud Passwords.” Don’t know about other browsers.
Jerry
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On Dec 13, 2024, at 7:38?AM, Budd Turner via groups.io <n7eoj@...> wrote:
I had forgotten Safari saves passwords.
I always assumed they went to the Keychain.
Safari 18.2 Passwords on my 15.2 iMac are linked to the Passwords application.
Logins have been conveniently facilitated to two touches, with Touch ID & Passwords.
I installed the 1Password stand alone application, long ago on my early iPads.
When they updated and didn't mention it became a $35/month subscription, I bailed.
It still works fine, and was the iPad's main use, until Passwords was added to MacOS.
"Every storm runs out of rain." Maya Angelou (American poet, memoirist, and civil rights activist.)
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I had forgotten Safari saves passwords. ?
I always assumed they went to the Keychain. ?
Safari 18.2 Passwords on my 15.2 iMac are linked to the Passwords application.
Logins have been conveniently facilitated?to two touches, with Touch ID & Passwords.
I installed the 1Password stand alone application, long ago on my early iPads.
When they updated and didn't mention it became a $35/month subscription, I bailed.
It still works fine, and was the iPad's main use, until Passwords was added to MacOS.
"Every storm runs out of rain." ?Maya Angelou (American poet, memoirist, and civil rights activist.)
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Hmm … still confused.
I find, that some passwords to websites are not to be found in Keychain but can be fpund i Safari->Settings->Passwords … which as I look at it says “All Your Passwords in One Place” … how is that supposed to be understood?
Also .. when I click on Keychain Access (Macintosh HD -> System -> Library -> CoreServices -> Applications -> Keychain Access.app ... how did it end up there? Didn’t it use to be in Applications -> Utilities? ) it asks me if I want to open Passwords or Keychain Access. Passwords appears to be a new App that is located in the Apps folder.
I’d really like to know how all this works … how many places do i actually store passwords? In Passwords= In Keychain? In browsers?
Does anybody know how this works? Or has a link to an explanation somewhere?
:-)
Peter
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On 13 Dec 2024, at 10.18, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
When you store passwords “in your Mac browser,” these are actually stored in your keychain, sometimes in a blob associated with the browser (e.g., Chrome Safe Storage). As long as you don’t sign into Google in Chrome nor use iCloud Keychain, your passwords will remain local only.
On macOS 15, you can use the Passwords all with Chrome and Firefox, as well as Safari, as you wish.
I trust the cloud security providers to which I subscribe, such as iCloud and 1Password. I primarily keep my passwords and other private items in 1Password.
On Dec 13, 2024, at 01:02, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:
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Hello friends
I have this question, that have bothered me for a while.
I use Keychain to save passwords, and would like to do it as the default place to save passwords, that I can unlock with my fingerprint og password. But some passwords to e.g. websites or servers or services that I access trough a browser (Safari and Chrome) are not stored in Keychain, but in the browser.
I would like NOT to have passwords stored in my browser, I’d like to have them safely locked away in my Keychain. is there a way to do that?
Is i’t OK to have them in the browser? Security-wise?
What do other peopole do?
It I start usind a password manager - like LastPass, 1password, VaultWarden, Dashlane … will they be stored on my comouter or somewhere in the cloud? Is that safer than Keychain?
I’m on a 14” MBP with M2 Max, 32/2000 running Sequoia 15.2
Looking forward to your input and experiences
Peter
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When you store passwords “in your Mac browser,” these are actually stored in your keychain, sometimes in a blob associated with the browser (e.g., Chrome Safe Storage). As long as you don’t sign into Google in Chrome nor use iCloud Keychain, your passwords will remain local only.
On macOS 15, you can use the Passwords all with Chrome and Firefox, as well as Safari, as you wish.
I trust the cloud security providers to which I subscribe, such as iCloud and 1Password. I primarily keep my passwords and other private items in 1Password.
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On Dec 13, 2024, at 01:02, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:
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Hello friends
I have this question, that have bothered me for a while.
I use Keychain to save passwords, and would like to do it as the default place to save passwords, that I can unlock with my fingerprint og password. But some passwords to e.g. websites or servers or services that I access trough a browser (Safari and Chrome) are not stored in Keychain, but in the browser.
I would like NOT to have passwords stored in my browser, I’d like to have them safely locked away in my Keychain. is there a way to do that?
Is i’t OK to have them in the browser? Security-wise?
What do other peopole do?
It I start usind a password manager - like LastPass, 1password, VaultWarden, Dashlane … will they be stored on my comouter or somewhere in the cloud? Is that safer than Keychain?
I’m on a 14” MBP with M2 Max, 32/2000 running Sequoia 15.2
Looking forward to your input and experiences
Peter
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Hello friends
I have this question, that have bothered me for a while.
I use Keychain to save passwords, and would like to do it as the default place to save passwords, that I can unlock with my fingerprint og password. But some passwords to e.g. websites or servers or services that I access trough a browser (Safari and Chrome) are not stored in Keychain, but in the browser.
I would like NOT to have passwords stored in my browser, I’d like to have them safely locked away in my Keychain. is there a way to do that?
Is i’t OK to have them in the browser? Security-wise?
What do other peopole do?
It I start usind a password manager - like LastPass, 1password, VaultWarden, Dashlane … will they be stored on my comouter or somewhere in the cloud? Is that safer than Keychain?
I’m on a 14” MBP with M2 Max, 32/2000 running Sequoia 15.2
Looking forward to your input and experiences
Peter
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Review of Digipinit.com in the UK
I wanted to do a follow-up of acquiring a version of Excel that works in Catalina. I can not find my thread, but I think possibly one of the members either on MacSupportCentral or IOMUG suggested DigiPinIt (dot) com in the UK as a source for a license for MS Office 2019. They offered a livetime license for it. In other words a purchase, not a subscription.?
The site was up enough for me to make a purchase, but has had technical difficulties ever since. They have been overwhelmed to respond to support requests, and have had a change of management since February. But they have time to send out marketing emails. They have only auto responded that they are overwhelmed, but otherwise not made any attempt to resolve my problem. My guess is that it is a one man, part-time operation, and less than legit.
What they sent be instead of a purchase license for Office 2019 for Mac, was a (subscription) license for Office 365, which will not run on my Mac running Catalina.
DO NOT MAKE PURCHASES FROM DIGIPINIT! ?Randy Singer, please take note. Contact me off line if you want to validate my review, to add to your files.?
Brent ?
On my Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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Re: Send Sound from Apple Mail is gone!
Apple taketh away, and Apple giveth. ?Blessed be the name of Apple. :-)
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Oddly, the sound returned as mysteriously as it had disappeared.?
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SSD Upgrades for Mac Studio and M4 mac mini
This came up a while ago, and at that time there was no upgrade path for SSD on Mac Studios and M4 mac mini. This article indicates that the Kickstarter project has borne fruit.
Roger
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Re: Send Sound from Apple Mail is gone!
Yes, I did that several times.
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Re: Send Sound from Apple Mail is gone!
Yep, and I encouraged you to turn it off, restart Mail, and turn it on.
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On Dec 5, 2024, at 11:54, Paul Blumstein via groups.io <pbcava@...> wrote:
I've had that checked all along.
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I've had that checked all along.
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Re: Send Sound from Apple Mail is gone!
Mail > Settings > General > Play sounds for other mail actions
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On Dec 5, 2024, at 10:49, Paul Blumstein via groups.io <pbcava@...> wrote:
I did a restart. I don't know how to disable/enable the effect.
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Re: Windows changing size in Sequoia
Almost. I had already turned that off.
However, I noticed that the next setting is “Drag Windows to the menu bar to tile”. I turned that off and it fixed the problem.
Thanks,
Paul
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I did a restart. I don't know how to disable/enable the effect.
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