Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?
Shit out of luck I presume.? Sent from iPhone
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On Apr 11, 2025, at 1:54?AM, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:
? You said John was SOL. From my old car rally days, that meant “sign on left.” So why was John sign on left? Just curious.? On Apr 10, 2025, at 11:23?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
? What sign on left of what?
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
On Apr 10, 2025, at 1:45 PM, Jerald Levinson via < levinson@...> wrote:
Sign On Left? On Apr 10, 2025, at 10:09?PM, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:
? I guess I am all wet.?
I don’t use the feature “delete after”. And now that a couple of you have reminded me, it is a setting to delete emails from Trash.?
So I am not aware of another built-in “delete after” feature in Mail. So I think John is SOL.? On Apr 9, 2025, at 14:23, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:
? Brent, are you referring to the Mailbox Behaviors setting that automatically deletes emails in the Junk or Trash mailboxes after a day, week, or month?
Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.?
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You are THE man, Randy. ?Thanks for that super-useful chart which I have added to the info I have saved on this subject.
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Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?
Following this thread … what springs to mind is, that you can do SO MUCH with Automator if you fiddle around with it a bit, you'll be amazed!?
Another thought is: How much mail do you have? How much space does it take up? (~/Library/Mail/V10 … cmd-i)?
My thought would be to copy the entire V10 folder (it’s called V10 in Sequioia, probably V9 in Sonoma and so forth … can’t remember bu youll figure it out) to a USB for store keeping. And after that simply use Mail to delete anything older than 1 or 2 years. With your USB backup, you can always find old stuff, if you deleted too much.
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Peter
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On 9 Apr 2025, at 16.34, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:
Running most recent versions of Sequoia, Apple Mail, and Spamsieve, on a Mac Studio M2 MAX.
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Looking for a way to automate a rule or smart mailbox to automatically delete some of my bloated histories of emails after xx number of days going back years that are only taking up space.
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After poking around I can't find any way to automate this.?
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Any ideas?
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All the best,
John?
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Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?
You said John was SOL. From my old car rally days, that meant “sign on left.” So why was John sign on left? Just curious.?
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 11:23?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
? What sign on left of what?
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
On Apr 10, 2025, at 1:45 PM, Jerald Levinson via < levinson@...> wrote:
Sign On Left? On Apr 10, 2025, at 10:09?PM, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:
? I guess I am all wet.?
I don’t use the feature “delete after”. And now that a couple of you have reminded me, it is a setting to delete emails from Trash.?
So I am not aware of another built-in “delete after” feature in Mail. So I think John is SOL.? On Apr 9, 2025, at 14:23, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:
? Brent, are you referring to the Mailbox Behaviors setting that automatically deletes emails in the Junk or Trash mailboxes after a day, week, or month?
Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.?
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 1:25 PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I believe I saw mention of HDMI v 1.4 and 2.4 in a recent Wikipedia article. Here is a handy chart if you want to keep track of each video port’s capabilities: HDMI 1.0-1.1: Up to 1080p at 60Hz HDMI 1.2-1.2a: Up to 1080p at 60Hz HDMI 1.3-1.4b: Up to 4K at 30Hz HDMI 2.0-2.0b: Up to 4K at 60Hz HDMI 2.1: Up to 4K at 120Hz and 8K at 120Hz DisplayPort 1.2: Up to 4K at 60Hz, some 1.2a ports may also support AMD's FreeSync DisplayPort 1.3: Up to 4K at 120Hz or 8K at 30Hz DisplayPort 1.4: Up to 8K at 60Hz and HDR DisplayPort 2.0: Up to 16K with HDR at 60Hz and 10K without HDR at 80Hz. DisplayPort 2.1: Adds USB4 compatibility to 2.0 allowing you to power multiple DisplayPort 2.0 displays with an 8K resolution at 60Hz And while we are at it, you might like this: USB 4 2019 40Gbps USB Type-C USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 2017 (as USB 3.2) 20Gbps USB Type-C USB 3.2 Gen 2 2014 (as USB 3.1) 10Gbps USB Type-A or Type-C USB 3.2 Gen 1 2009 (as USB 3.0) 5Gbps USB Type-A or Type-C USB 2.0 2001 480Mbps USB Type-A USB 1.0 1996 12Mbps USB Type-A __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 1:25 PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Yet the only versions commonly mentioned or available are v 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 or 2.1. Lots of folks with monitors that are a number of years old have monitors that support HDMI 1.4, maximum. For many of those folks, if they plan to attach their old monitor to a newer Mac, it would be best NOT to connect them via HDMI. Often such monitors also have a DP 1.4 input. Using DP would be advantageous, with matching adapter and cabling, as DP1.4 was superior to HDMI 1.4. , __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?
What sign on left of what?
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 1:45 PM, Jerald Levinson via < levinson@...> wrote:
Sign On Left? On Apr 10, 2025, at 10:09?PM, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:
? I guess I am all wet.?
I don’t use the feature “delete after”. And now that a couple of you have reminded me, it is a setting to delete emails from Trash.?
So I am not aware of another built-in “delete after” feature in Mail. So I think John is SOL.? On Apr 9, 2025, at 14:23, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:
? Brent, are you referring to the Mailbox Behaviors setting that automatically deletes emails in the Junk or Trash mailboxes after a day, week, or month?
Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.?
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 10:09?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
? I guess I am all wet.?
I don’t use the feature “delete after”. And now that a couple of you have reminded me, it is a setting to delete emails from Trash.?
So I am not aware of another built-in “delete after” feature in Mail. So I think John is SOL.? On Apr 9, 2025, at 14:23, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
? Brent, are you referring to the Mailbox Behaviors setting that automatically deletes emails in the Junk or Trash mailboxes after a day, week, or month? On Apr 9, 2025, at 13:27, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.?
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I believe I saw mention of HDMI v 1.4 and 2.4 in a recent Wikipedia article. Just goes to show you that it is written by people who are not necessarily correct, or that our understanding or memory of the articles are not necessarily accurate.
Yet the only versions commonly mentioned or available are v 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 or 2.1. But I did run into HDMI cables that had only one docked corner. Another way of describing the connectors, instead of 6-sided, they were 5-sided.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 02:49, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:
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On Apr 9, 2025, at 2:33 PM, Bob Gerard via groups.io <rowerbob@...> wrote:
there are different versions of HDMI cables.
There are versions 1.4, 2.0, and 2.4.
1.4 is capable of a Maximum Resolution of 4K at 30 Hz.
2.0 is capable of a Maximum Resolution of 4K at 30 Hz.
2.4 is capable of a Maximum Resolution: Up to 10K at 120 Hz I don’t know where you got that information, but you should never go back there.
There is no such thing as HDMI 2.4. At least not yet.
What you are calling HDMI 2.4, is actually HDMI 2.1.
And HDMI 2.0 can support up to 4K video at 60 Hz
See:
The HDMI port in the new (base) M4 Mac mini supports HDMI 2.1, but that is irrelevant, since all of the reasonably priced 4K monitors on the market only support HDMI 2.0 (4K video at 60 Hz). Which is more than plenty. So all that you need is an HDMI 2.0 cable. But since an HDMI 2.1 cable is backwards compatible, that will work too.
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Very similar to how the abilities of USB or FireWire improved over time.?
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On Apr 9, 2025, at 14:29, Bob Gerard via groups.io <rowerbob@...> wrote:
? One more thing about HDMI connections. ?It was not until ?our 2005 Samsung TV died two years ago and we replaced it did we learn that there are different versions of HDMI cables. ?
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There are versions 1.4, 2.0, and 2.4.
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1.4 is capable of a Maximum Resolution of 4K at 30 Hz. ?
2.0 is capable of a Maximum Resolution of 4K at 30 Hz. ?
2.4 is capable of a Maximum Resolution: Up to 10K at 120 Hz
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Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?
I guess I am all wet.?
I don’t use the feature “delete after”. And now that a couple of you have reminded me, it is a setting to delete emails from Trash.?
So I am not aware of another built-in “delete after” feature in Mail. So I think John is SOL.?
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On Apr 9, 2025, at 14:23, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:
? Brent, are you referring to the Mailbox Behaviors setting that automatically deletes emails in the Junk or Trash mailboxes after a day, week, or month? On Apr 9, 2025, at 13:27, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.?
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 9:19?AM, Mary Ann Niesen via groups.io <mag314@...> wrote: There really isn’t currently any fully automated way to delete these that I have found, but it is MUCH easier to manually delete things periodically if all the “deletable” mail is in a single place, because as others have said, you can “select all” then “delete”.
Yup. This is fine. Quick and easy. Just got rid of a couple thousand old emails in the wink of any eye. Should speed up my Mail app a little bit, maybe. All the best, John?
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I’d add one more criteria to this is you don’t want to delete some messages from some boxes, even if they are older: ?when setting up your “smart” mailbox, also use “message is in mailbox” or “message is not in mailbox” as a criteria. ?At that point, you can specify which mailbox to include or exclude, respectively (and, if you have a lot of mailboxes, you can add that criteria multiple times to cover the variety of mailboxes).
There really isn’t currently any fully automated way to delete these that I have found, but it is MUCH easier to manually delete things periodically if all the “deletable” mail is in a single place, because as others have said, you can “select all” then “delete”.
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 09:02, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:
On Apr 10, 2025, at 5:58?AM, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:
Try this: Create a new Smart Mailbox, name it Old (or similar). Create a rule with "Date Received" and "Is before the date" and set the date to, say, Jan 1, 2020. This should pull all your old emails from before 1/1/20 into the Smart folder. Then review the messages in the folder. If it looks like these are all ones you want to delete, just Select All and move to Trash. Then empty the Trash.?
You can start with an older date instead of 2020, say 2010 or whenever. Also be aware there may be old messages from folders you want to keep, since Smart Folders work with all your emails, not just specific folders. You can copy the older keeper emails onto your desktop to save them.
Best of luck, Jerry
Jerry,
Brilliant work-around. I did not think of checking the dates from the 'before' date. Nice.
But this means I still need to intervene manually.? I was looking for a fully automated way to trim the tail end off of some of my large mailboxes where I don't even care about the individual emails. I know I don't need or want them so I don't need to review.?
So, I'll just do basically what you said in step #2 from time to time and select hundreds or thousands of emails that are over xx days old and delete them manually.?
But thank you for your creative approach. I did not think of that.?
All the best, John?
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On Apr 10, 2025, at 5:58?AM, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:
Try this: Create a new Smart Mailbox, name it Old (or similar). Create a rule with "Date Received" and "Is before the date" and set the date to, say, Jan 1, 2020. This should pull all your old emails from before 1/1/20 into the Smart folder. Then review the messages in the folder. If it looks like these are all ones you want to delete, just Select All and move to Trash. Then empty the Trash.?
You can start with an older date instead of 2020, say 2010 or whenever. Also be aware there may be old messages from folders you want to keep, since Smart Folders work with all your emails, not just specific folders. You can copy the older keeper emails onto your desktop to save them.
Best of luck, Jerry
Jerry,
Brilliant work-around. I did not think of checking the dates from the 'before' date. Nice.
But this means I still need to intervene manually.? I was looking for a fully automated way to trim the tail end off of some of my large mailboxes where I don't even care about the individual emails. I know I don't need or want them so I don't need to review.?
So, I'll just do basically what you said in step #2 from time to time and select hundreds or thousands of emails that are over xx days old and delete them manually.?
But thank you for your creative approach. I did not think of that.?
All the best, John?
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Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?
Try this: Create a new Smart Mailbox, name it Old (or similar). Create a rule with "Date Received" and "Is before the date" and set the date to, say, Jan 1, 2020. This should pull all your old emails from before 1/1/20 into the Smart folder. Then review the messages in the folder. If it looks like these are all ones you want to delete, just Select All and move to Trash. Then empty the Trash.
You can start with an older date instead of 2020, say 2010 or whenever. Also be aware there may be old messages from folders you want to keep, since Smart Folders work with all your emails, not just specific folders. You can copy the older keeper emails onto your desktop to save them.
Best of luck, Jerry
Running most recent versions of Sequoia, Apple Mail, and Spamsieve, on a Mac Studio M2 MAX.
?
Looking for a way to automate a rule or smart mailbox to automatically delete some of my bloated histories of emails after xx number of days going back years that are only taking up space.
?
After poking around I can't find any way to automate this.?
?
Any ideas?
?
All the best,
John?
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On Apr 9, 2025, at 2:33 PM, Bob Gerard via groups.io <rowerbob@...> wrote:
there are different versions of HDMI cables.
There are versions 1.4, 2.0, and 2.4.
1.4 is capable of a Maximum Resolution of 4K at 30 Hz.
2.0 is capable of a Maximum Resolution of 4K at 30 Hz.
2.4 is capable of a Maximum Resolution: Up to 10K at 120 Hz I don’t know where you got that information, but you should never go back there. There is no such thing as HDMI 2.4. At least not yet. What you are calling HDMI 2.4, is actually HDMI 2.1. And HDMI 2.0 can support up to 4K video at 60 Hz See: The HDMI port in the new (base) M4 Mac mini supports HDMI 2.1, but that is irrelevant, since all of the reasonably priced 4K monitors on the market only support HDMI 2.0 (4K video at 60 Hz). Which is more than plenty. So all that you need is an HDMI 2.0 cable. But since an HDMI 2.1 cable is backwards compatible, that will work too. __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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One more thing about HDMI connections. ?It was not until ?our 2005 Samsung TV died two years ago and we replaced it did we learn that there are different versions of HDMI cables. ?
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There are versions 1.4, 2.0, and 2.4.
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1.4 is capable of a Maximum Resolution of 4K at 30 Hz. ?
2.0 is capable of a Maximum Resolution of 4K at 30 Hz. ?
2.4 is capable of a Maximum Resolution: Up to 10K at 120 Hz
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Randy alluded to this in an earlier email.
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Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?
Brent, are you referring to the Mailbox Behaviors setting that automatically deletes emails in the Junk or Trash mailboxes after a day, week, or month?
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On Apr 9, 2025, at 13:27, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.?
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I hope that is not true, if it is then any email in any folder would be deleted after xx days whether or not I wanted to keep it. I hope you are referring to the Trash folder alone.
As far as I can see, though, you can only set a “delete after” date for iCloud accounts. And only for emails in the “Deleted” folder. Or maybe this is ISP-related?
Jerry
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On Apr 9, 2025, at 10:27?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.
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Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.?
The way I read Jerald’s post is instead of creating a setting, create a new set of mailboxes.?
Let’s say you have 3 mailboxes, Jack, Jill and Spot. You want to keep Jack’s emails 6 months, Jill’s 12 months, and Spot’s only 3. So every six months you create a new mailbox for Jack, call it Jack1, move over the last 6 months then delete the mailbox Jack. Same with Jill and Spot at the appropriate times. Of course, it would be easier to alter the mailbox name first, then create an new mailbox with the old name. Then you would not have to change any rules you currently have. You would probably have to automate this process to make it efficient.?
I would think that archiving your mail regularly would be much simpler. Then make a suggestion to Apple to add the feature, and see if there are enough positive responses for them to create the feature.?
Brent ?
On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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On Apr 9, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Jerald Levinson via < levinson@...> wrote:
Are these email in various mailboxes? For instance, you may have one mailbox with Santa Claus emails going back 20 years. Of those, you want to keep the last 6 months worth. Create a new mailbox, move the emails you want to keep to that mailbox, then just delete the old mailbox. Repeat for other folders. This would be easier, depending on the number of emails, than just selecting all and moving them to the Trash.
The problem I see with a rule, is that it may delete emails from the wrong folders, stuff you want to keep. If you create a Smart Mailbox and set the condition for "emails over 30 days old" it would suck them out of all your folders, again including stuff you want to keep.
My two cents, Jerry
I would treat different mailboxes with different smart mailbox rules depending on how much I want to save. Never have used a 'smart' mailbox, so forgive my ignorance as well as my grammar.?
BUT, I don't see the option in a new Smart mailbox to "Delete emails after xx days."
I'll keep looking.
TIA, John?
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