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Much thanks to Albert Johnson and Brent Pennington for pointing out that my problem was probably with an extension or two which needed to be turned off to clean up my menu bar. I found two which looked suspicious, turned them off, restarted and it worked.

Thanks again.......what a great list!

Virginia

In a message dated 12/19/00 10:54:46 AM, webmaster@... writes:

I don't think that the largest free block has something to do with
it.

On our Macs here until I added gobs more RAM to them, we would notice that
the Finder became EXTREMELY slow to redraw the Desktop if we had opened so
many apps that the Largest Free Block was very small (1-2 MB or less).

But when you've got 100 MB free, and have always had at least that much
there's no danger that the System Heap doesn't have room to grow some more I
don't think.

Even when my computer is slow, the largest unused block is as
big as a 100MB of RAM. When you look at About this Computer and see
how much RAM applications take, the Mac OS is one of those and its
progress bar is entirely filled. I remember from experience that
when the bar is full and that it refuses to change, my computer
slows down and is more crash prone.

The System Heap is dynamic, and always shows "nearly full" if I recall
correctly. The bar gets longer as needed, or if it's already the longest one
the scale of it shrinks

Of course "managing" that huge chunk of RAM is a different issue, and this
may be what affects a slowdown.

Cheers

Roger

Meant to change the subject line on that last one... sorry 'bout that. I've
been listening to everyone complain about the change... then forgot about it
myself.

---Tim

At 18:05 -0800 18/12/00, Frederic Schroers wrote:

It could very well be Adobe ATM causing the problems on your #1 iMac.

You mean Adobe Adobe Type Manager? ;-)

Reminds me of the old SALT talks - remember those? The Strategic Arms Limitation Talks Talks... and PIN numbers - personal identification number numbers.

Sorry - we now resume normal service...
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When I open up a ezine, i get an automatic connect to the inet. This is very
aggravating especially in our school setting. How can I turn this off?

I can help with this part. Under the file menu, choose "Work Offline." You
will have to override this setting every time you do mail, but it beats the
reconnects.

---Tim Archer
Cordoba, Argentina (which is a long way from Northern Alberta)

What would be a good way to allocate more memory to the system software so
that it has more breathing space under Mac OS 9 ? I notice that when I have
several applications opened, it slows down a bit and its memory bar in the
"About this computer" window gets full when it does this.


Munger

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On 12/19/00 3:02 AM, david craig at dac@... wrote:

The current vendor list includes Data
Memory Systems, MacMart, MemoryToGo, Other World Computing, and RamJet.

I'd appreciate feedback on which of these vendors I should look at most
closely, and which (if any) I should avoid, based on your experience.

DMS- quality products and service. I've bought RAM and CPU's from them on
various occasions, no problems. I've also found them to have the best
prices, in fact I believe they advertise that they "won't be undersold".
Check their site at <datamem.com>.
--
Dale
dummitt@...

I'm in the market for a 128 or 256 MB memory module for my B&W G3/450.
The machine currently has 196 installed, all of it by Apple when I
ordered the machine. I truly haven't a clue whether or not the brand of
memory actually matters, and I'd love some help.

I bought memory from one of the Macintosh Resource Page's
(<>) a long time ago and was pleased with the
experience. The RAMWATCH price list currently undercuts the catalog
vendors I know of significantly. The current vendor list includes Data
Memory Systems, MacMart, MemoryToGo, Other World Computing, and RamJet.

I'd appreciate feedback on which of these vendors I should look at most
closely, and which (if any) I should avoid, based on your experience.
I'm more interested in the "quality" of memory that the vendor supplies,
because I know poor customer service gets you bounced from RAMWATCH, but
if any of you DO have rotten experiences with current RAMWATCH vendors,
I guess I'd like to know about that, too :-)

Thanks!
David


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In a message dated 12/19/00 4:11:57 AM, webmaster@... writes:

What would be a good way to allocate more memory to the system
software so that it has more breathing space under Mac OS 9 ? I
notice that when I have several applications opened, it slows down a
bit and its memory bar in the "About this computer" window gets full
when it does this.

I guess I thought that the System Heap is dynamic, and will continue to grow
as required as long as there is free space continguous to the System Heap for
it to grow into.

And there "should" be contiguous free space as long as you've never got the
machine to the point where the "Largest Free Block" has got to zero. When the
Largest Free Block does get to zero tthe System Heap can't grow any more, and
if whatever it was that took that last chunk of memory doesn't properly
release it then no matter how many other programmes you quit the System Heap
won't be able to grow any more until you restart the computer.

"I think" <g>

Cheers

Roger

In a message dated 12/19/00 3:02:53 AM, dac@... writes:

I'd appreciate feedback on which of these vendors I should look at most
closely, and which (if any) I should avoid, based on your experience.
I'm more interested in the "quality" of memory that the vendor supplies,
because I know poor customer service gets you bounced from RAMWATCH, but
if any of you DO have rotten experiences with current RAMWATCH vendors,
I guess I'd like to know about that, too :-)

I've bought from both DMS and OWC on the RAMWatch page with good results.

They both sell "2-2-2" memory, which is the fastest kind there is. Nothing
I've bought from them has failed.

Cheers

Roger

Excellent idea :)

iomug@... sent the following at 12/18/00 8:59 PM

Stacey
It could very well be Adobe ATM causing the problems on your #1 iMac. You
need the latest version of Adobe ATM (4.6.1). Adobe ATM versions earlier
than 4.5.2 cause horrible crashes with OS 9. You can pick up your free ATM
at
Good Luck
Frederic

on 12/18/00 4:03 AM, iomug@... at iomug@... babbled on
about:

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on KBOO 90.7fm. On the internet

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes.
Then when you criticize them you'll be a mile away from
them and you'll have their shoes as well.

RogerKIWI@... didst proclaim:

IMHO this upgrade is not worth it, unless you have a significant investment
in "extras" on the 7200 - loads of RAM, PCI Cards, second hadr drive etc etc.

Addendum to my personal upgrade path: by buying a used 7600 and upgrading
the processor, I was able to move all of my RAM, my hard drives, my video
card, and all of my peripherals from my 7200 to the 7600. Took less than 30
minutes :-)

--
Rik Osborne
<rik@...>
<>

Sarcasm is just one more service we offer.

Stacey Roof didst proclaim:

BTW Sonnet now offers an upgrad path for 7200s

Rob,
Found them-thanks. wish I would have known about this $500 upgrade before
buying the new iMac. I've been waiting for these for two years. Ouch.

Stacey - don't feel too bad. I had a 7200/75. To upgrade, I bought a used
7600/132 from PowerMax for about $350, and then bought a "clearance" 375MHz
G3 card from Sonnet for about $150. It still cost around $500, but it was
still a better deal than the Sonnet 7200 upgrade because the 7600 is a
better base unit than the 7200. Meaning now I have 8 RAM slots, A/V
input/output, and I get to keep all three PCI slots, because the 7600
processor is on a daughtercard in its own slot.

--
Rik Osborne
<rik@...>
<>

I just want revenge. Is that so wrong?

A while ago, if you were clever/lucky, you could get Apple maintenance
manuals in pdf format (not handbooks) by downloading them from the APPLE
Europe ftp site. I got a couple (for old kit) which have proved invaluable.
However, with the passage of time I find the need for a couple more but the
old ftp address has come up with a blank. Obviously Apple are not
interested in giving folk easy access to these things because they are
meant for the official repair chaps but, for those of us who know how to
use a soldering iron and how not to die from intimate struggles with a CRT,
it seems a little Blairish to take them away. Does anyone know if they
have been moved and, if so, where to?

Thanks

Drew

At 11:11 PM -0500 on 12/16/00, I heard from Daniel Gagner, saying:

Unsticking that hard drive in the SE sounds strange but he's exactly right.
I had an SE in the late 80's early 90's. I'd have to turn my SE upside down
sometimes during startup to get it to work. A lot of early 40-80 mb Quantum
drives had this problem.

When you do this, do you leave it upside down or turn it back over? I have a 2 gig drive that got hot and I think the heads stuck to the platter. I haven't messed with it much - need to get something to transfer to before I start it up! I thought you couldn't move the drives while they are on - or am I mistaken?

Michele

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At 4:56 PM -0600 on 12/17/00, I heard from Jon Bonner, saying:

On 12/16/00 6:10 PM, Patrick Benton <ptrkbenton@...> wrote:

I receive my IOMUG mail via OE 5.02, at Earthlink. Beginning today, most of
the individual messages I've received (like this one) have included an eGroups
Sponsor ad. They take forever to load, and I'd rather not have to deal with
them. Since the group's move to eGroups, I've been more than a little
confused. I had hoped to wait until we'd officially left the UTA site before
making any drastic changes to my subscription. Is there some re-setting of my
OE prefs that I need to attend to - or should the ads be eliminated on the
sender's end of the posts?

Go to the eGroups web site and change your subscription settings from
receiving HTML messages to receiving plain text messages. When you do you'll
still get ads, but they'll be text ads instead of the banners you don't
appreciate.

Jon Bonner

The LIST needs to be made non-HTML before the pieces will go away. I have mine set to no HTML - and still get the pictures. The LIST needs to be set to accept NO ATTACHMENTS - this will turn all the picture ads into simple typewritten ads as below:


While it is annoying, it is MUCh better than the flashing picture and then all those items get stuck in my Eudora mail and I have to delete them manually eventually!

Michele

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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.

Hiya...
Can someone refresh my memory for how to change what appears in the "To:"
line when simultaneously sending Bcc:s?

Thanks....
Yolanda
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Sometimes it's just plain yellow.
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In a message dated 12/18/00 9:02:01 PM, rik@... writes:

RogerKIWI@... didst proclaim:

IMHO this upgrade is not worth it, unless you have a significant investment
in "extras" on the 7200 - loads of RAM, PCI Cards, second hadr drive

etc etc.

Addendum to my personal upgrade path: by buying a used 7600 and upgrading
the processor, I was able to move all of my RAM, my hard drives, my video
card, and all of my peripherals from my 7200 to the 7600. Took less than
30
minutes :-)

And further to this, I found this site a couple of days ago - selling a
chassis of the 7500 that can be upgraded with a G3 processor for not much
over $150 (and upwards) and still take the RAM, drives etc from a 7200...



egory_Code=Mac

Cheers

Roger

I'm again requesting instructions on how to assess member only information at the web site. The password I was given in an e-mail with all the changes doesn't work. I have tried it numerous times to make sure I wasn't typing it wrong. Has anyone else had this problem? Most importantly how do I get this problem handled? Thanks. Zentura


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