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Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

Jaqi, thanks for that. It seems that there were/are many different ways of doing this. It might even be at the level of individual schools.

Otto

On 22 May 2025, at 17:32, Jaqi Thompson via groups.io <yywomyn@...> wrote:

Oh, Otto,
I wasn’t gonna engage on this classwork marking, but you asked … in my Oregon elementary school in the 1950’s and high school in the 1960’s, we usually got a red pencil slash through a wrong answer, no marks on correct answers. Then the same red pencil was used to write the percentage of correct answers, plus a grade, at the top of the test.

Getting every single answer correct meant a big red “100% A+ “ at the top right of the first page. Getting two wrong, out of say, 10 questions, got two red slashes, then an “80% B-“ written at the top. A’s were always from 90% - 100%; B’s were usually from 80% - 89%, but maybe as low as 75%; C’s were usually from 60%-79% but could stop at 75%; D’s were usually from 50% - 60%, but still a passing grade, though shamefully low; and F’s were a failing grade, which was anything less than 50%. In short, the more red marks throughout the test, the worse you did.
Re: Migrate from 2014 iMac to Mac mini m4

 

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I concur. It’s not great to start out over half full and Randy would probably reference performance degradation when an SSD is 70% full. If your usage was closer to 200GB, then perhaps 512GB would be appropriate.

On May 22, 2025, at 20:47, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:

?Hello Howard

Yes, I think it would be wise to choose the 1 TB drive. It’s a one-time expense that you will appreciate later.

:-)

Peter


On 23 May 2025, at 00.13, Howard Kirsch via groups.io <howard.k65@...> wrote:

Hi Peter,
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Thanks for your advice. I found a file in Containers labeled Vimeo. That was the culprit. I upload my videos to Vimeo for distribution, but apparently they keep the files on the local computer as well. I trashed it and found a few other movies that I moved to external storage so now my local hard drive shows about 295 GB of used storage. Do you still think I need to go up to the 1 TB drive?
?
Thanks to everyone who tried to help me with this.?
Re: Migrate from 2014 iMac to Mac mini m4

 

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Hello Howard

Yes, I think it would be wise to choose the 1 TB drive. It’s a one-time expense that you will appreciate later.

:-)

Peter


On 23 May 2025, at 00.13, Howard Kirsch via groups.io <howard.k65@...> wrote:

Hi Peter,
?
Thanks for your advice. I found a file in Containers labeled Vimeo. That was the culprit. I upload my videos to Vimeo for distribution, but apparently they keep the files on the local computer as well. I trashed it and found a few other movies that I moved to external storage so now my local hard drive shows about 295 GB of used storage. Do you still think I need to go up to the 1 TB drive?
?
Thanks to everyone who tried to help me with this.?
Re: Migrate from 2014 iMac to Mac mini m4

 

Hi Peter,
?
Thanks for your advice. I found a file in Containers labeled Vimeo. That was the culprit. I upload my videos to Vimeo for distribution, but apparently they keep the files on the local computer as well. I trashed it and found a few other movies that I moved to external storage so now my local hard drive shows about 295 GB of used storage. Do you still think I need to go up to the 1 TB drive?
?
Thanks to everyone who tried to help me with this.?
Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

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Oh, Otto,
I wasn’t gonna engage on this classwork marking, but you asked … in my Oregon elementary school in the 1950’s and high school in the 1960’s, we usually got a red pencil slash through a wrong answer, no marks on correct answers. ?Then the same red pencil was used to write the percentage of correct answers, plus a grade, at the top of the test.?
?
Getting every single answer correct meant a big red “100% ? A+ “ ?at the top right of the first page. ? Getting two wrong, out of say, 10 questions, got two red slashes, then an “80% ?B-“ written at the top. ?A’s were always from 90% - 100%; ? B’s were usually from 80% - 89%, but maybe as low as 75%; ? C’s were usually from 60%-79% but could stop at 75%; ? D’s were usually from 50% - 60%, but still a passing grade, though shamefully low; ?and F’s were a failing grade, which was anything less than 50%. ?In short, the more red marks throughout the test, the worse you did.

Jaqi?

P.S. ?Where is / how is / Bob Gelardi in this chain? ?Bob, are you okay? ?Busy? ?Traveling? ?Just uninterested? ?Hope all is well with you and your loved ones!



On May 21, 2025, at 1:53?AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

I think that there have been several good answers, and Kurt just needs to decide which is preferred.

(I’ve also enjoyed learning about how classwork was marked in the USA in the 1950s!)

Otto

On 21 May 2025, at 08:46, Peter Rasmusen via <peter@...> wrote:


I think this has gone a bit off … but I wonder if Kurt had his problem solved??

:-)
Re: Migrate from 2014 iMac to Mac mini m4

 

On May 21, 2025, at 7:30 PM, Howard Kirsch via groups.io <howard.k65@...> wrote:

Then there’s a grey bar labeled other, which shows 1.12 TB. with 2.43 GB available. I have no idea what “other” is, or where to find it.


What used to be called “Other”, in later versions of the Mac OS is now called “System Storage” or “System Data."


See:
Why Is My Mac System Storage So Big?


Follow These Steps to Clear Space on Your Mac


How to delete system data on a Mac


My first step would be to download and run:

Maintenance (free)


...using the default settings.

DO NOT purchase any “cleaning” apps suggested in any of the above links. You don’t need them.


__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Re: Migrate from 2014 iMac to Mac mini m4

 

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Detecting what Other is, is very difficult. What OS do you have on your 2014 iMac??

Here’s an idea:?

Go to your Home folder … Macintosh HD -> Users -> Howard (or whatever it's called)?

Press shift-cmd-. That is Shift, Command and a full stop.?

This will reveal hidden files and folders.?

On newer systems, you can also - while in your User home folder press cmd-j and select Show Library folder

Anyway …?
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Look in the Library folder - in list view. And sort the folders by size. You may find stuff that you had no idea was there. ?

Mail probably takes up a lot of space - not much to do about that, except you can g? to Mail and empty your Junk folder and Trash folder.?

Messages can take up tons of space too - and it’s not the messages, it’s the pictures and other “attachments" that you get in messages. Did you get a video of your grandchildren playing in the garden? Did you click download so it was imported to Photos? If so, this video is stored twice on your computer. In messages and in Photos.?

Cleaning up this mess is tiresome and a lot of manual work. Someone may know an app that can help you.?

To do it manually: Open a conversation in Messages, click on the info-thing - a circle with an i in it, in the upper right corner. Scroll down to see alle the images from that conversation. Cmd-click those you don’t need and ctrl-click to select Delete. As I wrote: Tiresome.?

You can also - and I’m on thin ice here, because I can’t remember what it was like in the OS you have which is probaby Big Sur? Anyway .. in later OS lige Sequoia which I use, I can go to System Settings -> General -> Storage -> Messages and see every image, video etc that is stored … and delete what I don’t need to keep.?

Enough about Messages.?

Another folder in your Library is Application Support - and it does not sound like anything anybody would tamper with. But … There may be a folder inside Application Support called Mobile Sync … and you may find old phone backups that takes up considerable space, and that you probably don’t need. If sothey can be deleted.?

So all of this could be “Other”.

Regarding your new Mini, I’ll second what Ben said. Go for a 1 TB drive. It’s worth it!?

And before you migrate, copy some of the heavier stuff - like your Photos Library or Music Library to an external drive, and delete it from the internal drive. You can always put it back. It will assure you, that Migration Assistant won’t stop wth the Not enough space warning.?

And like Ben said … if your 2014 internal SSd is in good condition, and why shouldn’t i be? - take it out and fit in an external enclosure. It’s a good thing to have.?

:-)?

Peter?





On 22 May 2025, at 04.30, Howard Kirsch via groups.io <howard.k65@...> wrote:

I’m planning to give up my iMac , late 2014, for a new Mac mini m4. I’m thinking of going with the 512 GB ?version. I have an overkill 4 TB SSD drive in the iMac. When I checked the storage of the drive, docs, photos, system, and apps add up to about 448GB. Then there’s a grey bar labeled other, which shows 1.12 TB. ?with 2.43 GB available. I have no idea what “other” is, or where to find it. It shows up on manage hard drive, but it is not clickable. Any ideas, and can I use an external dive for my documents and photos and get away with the 512 G internal drive? Will I be able to migrate to the 512G drive without doing anything about “other”?
Thanks!
Re: Migrate from 2014 iMac to Mac mini m4

 

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You won’t be able to migrate everything but Other in the way you hope. It’s best to figure out what it is first. You can use a tool like??to do so.

Also, if you already have 450GB+ of stuff you want to keep, it would be unwise to get a Mac with only 512GB storage, unless you’re planning to move a lot of your archives to an external drive. Otherwise, I’d get at least 1TB in the Mac mini.

If it’s still in good condition, you could pull your 4TB drive from your iMac and put it in an enclosure to use with your new Mac.


On May 21, 2025, at 19:30, Howard Kirsch via groups.io <howard.k65@...> wrote:

I’m planning to give up my iMac , late 2014, for a new Mac mini m4. I’m thinking of going with the 512 GB ?version. I have an overkill 4 TB SSD drive in the iMac. When I checked the storage of the drive, docs, photos, system, and apps add up to about 448GB. Then there’s a grey bar labeled other, which shows 1.12 TB. ?with 2.43 GB available. I have no idea what “other” is, or where to find it. It shows up on manage hard drive, but it is not clickable. Any ideas, and can I use an external dive for my documents and photos and get away with the 512 G internal drive? Will I be able to migrate to the 512G drive without doing anything about “other”?
Thanks!
Migrate from 2014 iMac to Mac mini m4

 

I’m planning to give up my iMac , late 2014, for a new Mac mini m4. I’m thinking of going with the 512 GB ?version. I have an overkill 4 TB SSD drive in the iMac. When I checked the storage of the drive, docs, photos, system, and apps add up to about 448GB. Then there’s a grey bar labeled other, which shows 1.12 TB. ?with 2.43 GB available. I have no idea what “other” is, or where to find it. It shows up on manage hard drive, but it is not clickable. Any ideas, and can I use an external dive for my documents and photos and get away with the 512 G internal drive? Will I be able to migrate to the 512G drive without doing anything about “other”?
Thanks!
Re: Recent change in cursor behavior

 

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What sites were giving this behavior?

On May 21, 2025, at 18:05, Budd Turner via groups.io <n7eoj@...> wrote:

Last weekend, I noticed clicking on a browser button in two social media sites would cause the display to jump away, usually back a couple of frames requiring a second click. ?Sometimes it would repeat for a third time. ?I mentioned this anomaly and received supporting complaints from users in both sites.
Has anyone else noticed this irritating change?
M1 iMac,?
Sequoia 15.5
Safari 18.5
I haven't tested against Brave, because I am still stumbling around, learning Brave.
Recent change in cursor behavior

 

Last weekend, I noticed clicking on a browser button in two social media sites would cause the display to jump away, usually back a couple of frames requiring a second click. ?Sometimes it would repeat for a third time. ?I mentioned this anomaly and received supporting complaints from users in both sites.
Has anyone else noticed this irritating change?
M1 iMac,?
Sequoia 15.5
Safari 18.5
I haven't tested against Brave, because I am still stumbling around, learning Brave.
Re: Update on slow apple mail response

 

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Excellent and to-the-point info. Thanks!?


Peter



On 21 May 2025, at 16.22, Paul Blumstein via groups.io <pbcava@...> wrote:

If you recall, I complained about Apple Mail fetching mail slowly.
Then Randy showed me/us how to rebuild the mail envelope, and that fixed the problem.
Upon installation of a new Sequoia update, mail started fetching mail slowly once again. This time, an envelope rebuild did not help.
I guessed that it was release-related and they'd fix it sooner or later.
I was right: Sequoia 15.5 fixed whatever problem they had!
Paul
Update on slow apple mail response

 

If you recall, I complained about Apple Mail fetching mail slowly.
Then Randy showed me/us how to rebuild the mail envelope, and that fixed the problem.
Upon installation of a new Sequoia update, mail started fetching mail slowly once again. This time, an envelope rebuild did not help.
I guessed that it was release-related and they'd fix it sooner or later.
I was right: Sequoia 15.5 fixed whatever problem they had!
Paul
Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

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On May 21, 2025, at 2:46?AM, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:

I think this has gone a bit off … but I wonder if Kurt had his problem solved??

Solved indeed! And I thank you all for your help.

Kurt Youngmann

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"It is impossible to make?anything?foolproof because?fools are so?ingenious.” -?Murphy’s 11th law
Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

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I think that there have been several good answers, and Kurt just needs to decide which is preferred.

(I’ve also enjoyed learning about how classwork was marked in the USA in the 1950s!)

Otto

On 21 May 2025, at 08:46, Peter Rasmusen via <peter@...> wrote:


I think this has gone a bit off … but I wonder if Kurt had his problem solved??

:-)
Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

I think this has gone a bit off … but I wonder if Kurt had his problem solved?

:-)

On 21 May 2025, at 07.47, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:

It was used when I was in elementary school in Los Angeles in the 1950’s. Don’t know about the rest of the country.

It verified, to the student, that the teacher had checked every answer and gave the student an easy visual of their results: more Cs than checks? Good work! Lots more Cs? Great work! All Cs? Perfect!

Jerry

On May 21, 2025, at 12:23?AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

?I’m not familiar with that convention; was it so in the USA as a whole or just in Hawaii?

Otto

On 20 May 2025, at 16:49, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:

In the “good old days”, correct answers were marked with a “C” and wrong answers got the check.

However, when there is a box to mark, either a check or an “X” should suffice.
Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

It was used when I was in elementary school in Los Angeles in the 1950’s. Don’t know about the rest of the country.

It verified, to the student, that the teacher had checked every answer and gave the student an easy visual of their results: more Cs than checks? Good work! Lots more Cs? Great work! All Cs? Perfect!

Jerry

On May 21, 2025, at 12:23?AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

?I’m not familiar with that convention; was it so in the USA as a whole or just in Hawaii?

Otto

On 20 May 2025, at 16:49, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:

In the “good old days”, correct answers were marked with a “C” and wrong answers got the check.

However, when there is a box to mark, either a check or an “X” should suffice.
Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

I think this was a personal choice or decision, as I have not seen it. If the answer was unmakred it was correct. Or vise versa. Generally, the incorrect answers were marked.

I went to school and college when pencil or pen, and paper were used. The most advanced electronics used in class might be a calculator, or a mainframe computer if you were studying computer technology. Slide rules were still popular in engineering classes, and electronic drafting was just beginning. Even then, punch cards were what was used where I studied.

As to a check mark, or tick, it varies by location, the US uses 1,000.00 inches whereas most of Europe uses 1.000,00 cm, or some such.

Brent

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7

On May 20, 2025, at 3:23 PM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

I’m not familiar with that convention; was it so in the USA as a whole or just in Hawaii?

Otto

On 20 May 2025, at 16:49, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:

In the “good old days”, correct answers were marked with a “C” and wrong answers got the check.

However, when there is a box to mark, either a check or an “X” should suffice.
Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

This would a hand-written list of answers, such as in a “pub quiz”. :-)

Otto

On 20 May 2025, at 17:47, potentmap via groups.io <Alvin.Auerbach@...> wrote:

If those are the rules for the items which you are marking, then of course follow those rules. Personally, I haven’t seen that. I’ve just seen the requirement to mark a box where the associated statement applies, so that any mark will suffice.
Re: a very simple question (I hope)

 

I’m not familiar with that convention; was it so in the USA as a whole or just in Hawaii?

Otto

On 20 May 2025, at 16:49, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:

In the “good old days”, correct answers were marked with a “C” and wrong answers got the check.

However, when there is a box to mark, either a check or an “X” should suffice.
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