On Apr 29, 2025, at 15:23, Dutch Junge via groups.io <dutch@...> wrote:

?Depends on where you’re at. ?Here in SE Ohio I’ve got Frontier fiber optic. ?It’s great.

Dutch

On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:22?PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Sorry for the off-topic intrusion, but…

Can anyone recommend an ISP other than Comcast or ATT? I’ve reached the end of my tether with both.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

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"I used to eat a lot of natural?foods until I learned that?most people die of natural?causes.” - unattributed

On Apr 29, 2025, at 5:22?PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

Sorry for the off-topic intrusion, but…

Can anyone recommend an ISP other than Comcast or ATT? I’ve reached the end of my tether with both.

Thanx,

Kurt Youngmann

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"I used to eat a lot of natural?foods until I learned that?most people die of natural?causes.” - unattributed

On Apr 26, 2025, at 07:50, C at Groups via groups.io <azfrisons5960@...> wrote:

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On Apr 22, 2025, at 6:02?PM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:

On Apr 22, 2025, at 12:47 PM, C at Groups via groups.io <azfrisons5960@...> wrote:

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I frequently hear from users in just your situation. ?They have just updated their OS, and Mail has stopped working correctly.

Generally deleting all of your e-mail accounts in Mail, and then entering and setting them up again, fixes things.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255826964

I was ready to apply your fix, even though it seems rather involved, since we have 7 email accounts from 3 providers.

But first I tried a search for "Mac can't send mail after 15.4.1 update” at?perplexity.ai. Part of the answer was:

Open Mail.

Go to Mail > Settings > Composing.

Change Check spelling to Never.

Try sending an email.

Then change Check spelling back to When I Click Send.

Set to Never, emails send OK! ?But the behavior is As I Type. If I return the setting to When I Click Send, the behavior remains As I Type, but the emails won't send.

So, for me, until Apple fixes this, the setting must be Never, but the behavior is?As I Type.

Carroll

On 25 Apr 2025, at 03.57, robfrankel via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:

Greetings:

?

Does anyone else have this issue? All my mail accounts are hosted at GoDaddy, which uses Microsoft Exchange.? All the accounts have been Authenticated whenever asked.? Yet there are times when e-mail shows up on my iPhone but not on the MacBook Pro.? Same settings.? Same authentications. Same everything. I deliberately don't delete e-mails on one device to confirm their arrival -- or absence -- on the other.

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It's not just a delivery or time delay, either.? Both devices are usually in the same room, on the same router.

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Am I missing something here?? I was under the impression that the whole point of IMAP was to sync all your devices in real time.

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Thanks,

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Rob

On Apr 24, 2025, at 18:57, robfrankel via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:

Greetings:

?

Does anyone else have this issue? All my mail accounts are hosted at GoDaddy, which uses Microsoft Exchange.? All the accounts have been Authenticated whenever asked.? Yet there are times when e-mail shows up on my iPhone but not on the MacBook Pro.? Same settings.? Same authentications. Same everything. I deliberately don't delete e-mails on one device to confirm their arrival -- or absence -- on the other.

?

It's not just a delivery or time delay, either.? Both devices are usually in the same room, on the same router.

?

Am I missing something here?? I was under the impression that the whole point of IMAP was to sync all your devices in real time.

?

Thanks,

?

Rob

On Apr 22, 2025, at 9:47?PM, C at Groups via groups.io <azfrisons5960@...> wrote:

?We can’t send mail with Mail.app after upgrading to 15.4.1 on our Intel MacBook Pro. Worked fine with 15.4. Receive mail OK. We send mail from mac.com (iCloud) and from several accounts on cox.net, which is actually smtp.mail.yahoo.com.

After clicking “Send” the icon is greyed out, but nothing happens.

I can open the Drafts folder on our M2 MacBook Air running 15.4 and send any mail there; in fact, I wrote this on our MBP and sent it on the MBA.

Connection Doctor shows Mail is connecting to all servers.

We run SpamSieve so I booted to Safe Boot but no change.

Booted to Recovery Mode and ran First Aid in Disk Utility and received these warnings:

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warning: orphan omap mapping found for old 16637723
warning: volumeomap (fs_oid 0xf724e9): 2 orpan mappings found
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… was found to be corrupt and needs to be repired
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Performing deferred repairs
…

Operation successful.


These warnings appear no matter how many times First Aid is run.

Don’t know if we had these warnings in 15.4, but suspect that we did. Anyway, Apple seems to ignore them, as you can see.

Re-installed the OS from Recovery Mode, but no change.

Have a bootable clone made just before installing 15.4.1, but it would contain the orphan mappings.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Carroll

On Apr 21, 2025, at 5:45?AM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:

?Hi everyone!

When I decided to put my database of the very best free software for the Macintosh on a Web site for everyone, I had no idea that I'd be filling an unfilled niche and that the site would be so popular. There are other Web sites that list free software for the Mac, but few of them vet the software for usability and desirability.

I also had no idea that there was SO MUCH really good free software for the Macintosh! I've just drastically updated the page, and it's now up to 237 listings of really nice free software for the Mac!

FREE MACINTOSH SOFTWARE


Among the latest additions are very advanced graphics programs, programs that use AI to do things that were very hard/expensive to do previously (such as speech recognition/transcription), genealogy programs, and a number of nice utility programs.

If you haven't gone through all of the listings recently, it's worth looking through them again. There are sure to be free apps that you will find that will prove to be invaluable.

The page is entirely non-commercial, I don't make a cent from it.
I want to point out that I'm not an expert Web developer...far from it. I'm just an enthusiast. So the site looks a bit amateurish. But hopefully it is still very useful and interesting.

I also acknowledge that the site doesn't yet support HTTPS. I'm getting to it. (If this turns you off, please just ignore the page, rather than harassing me about it.)

Please spread the word about the Web site to others!

By request, here are the most recent additions to the page:

Anatomy Model Puzzle
Clipboard Manager
Cling
CMap Tools
CotEditor
CustomShortcuts
FamilyTreeBuilder
FoxIt PDF Reader
FreeFileSync
Freescaler
Gramps
iFan
LocalSend
Loop
Logseq
MacPass
Macsyzones
Manager
Mist
MuCommander
Muscles Puzzle
NoCal
Obsidian
PDFGear
Pearcleaner
Pinta
Quick Family Tree
Tayasui Sketches
Xapp
Zettlr


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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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