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Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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Come on, folks. Knock it off. You can see from the thread that Ellen did not start this. Carroll


On Mar 12, 2025, at 8:41?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:

That is my honest opinion to the person who brought it up. Who should not bring up such ideas here in the first place. ?Ellen?

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On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:33?AM, Roger Moffat via groups.io <rogerkiwi@...> wrote:

?But yet you did…

?But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?

Roger

On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:30?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:

I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15



On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:

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LOL, me too


On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via groups.io wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

? I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:

? W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.


Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

On Mar 11, 2025, at 1:08 PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

All 4 of the lists I am on are very quiet.

Those of us who are Macintosh enthusiasts (and who don’t think of the Mac simply as an appliance), and who participate on e-mail discussion lists and/or in Mac User Groups, tend to be baby boomers. And we are aging out, or dying out. Younger folks are, generally, not replacing us.

Lots of folks who used to dominate this discussion list, and others that I’m on, have disappeared. Some years ago.

A few of the lists that I’m on have become moribund. If I don’t post to them, no one else does.

Even my Mac discussion list for Mac-using attorneys is lagging. Younger attorneys aren’t joining. In fact, new subscriptions have just about entirely stopped.

We have a local Macintosh User Group in (nearby to me) Davis. It is within a few blocks of the U.C. Davis campus. Yet we have been unable to attract a single student. It’s all boomers.

I suspect that 10 years or so from now that all of these Macintosh discussion lists will be gone, and probably just about all Mac user groups too.


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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Re: Searching for an adapter

 

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On Mar 12, 2025, at 2:19?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
I hope that eventually the headphone adapters will get reinstated into newer phones.
Ellen

Hi Ellen,

Interesting saga with your headphones issues.

I could be wrong, but going back to mini-plugs, lightning, and even USB-C, can't one still plug in wired headphones directly if they are matching jacks and plugs?

There are specific advantages of having wired headphones, so I hope they keep them around.?

I dread the day when Apple decides to eliminate ALL physical ports, for whatever reason, but I hate to say it, I think they want to got he route of bluetooth and wireless charging, and thus could claim no need for any physical ports.?

What are people saying about this, or am I totally off-base?

All the best,
John?


Re: Searching for an adapter

 

I bought headphone adapters on Amazon. Offhand I don’t remember what I paid, but it was very inexpensive. The first one was for iPhones before the latest new iPhones and then I re-ordered because I bought an XV iPhone I needed a different adapter. Adapter has ability to hook up the earphone and also has a connect to hook up to the regular computer adapter.
I hope that eventually the headphone adapters will get reinstated into newer phones.
In case you’re interested I also bought a new Roku TV remote which allows me to attach my
Headphone into the remote so I can listen to TV privately.
Ellen

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On Mar 12, 2025, at 10:05?AM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

?Also, you "may" need a pre-amp for your headphones. Not sure.
Depends on the signal strength.
Hopefully you won't need it, but I just picked on up from Amazon for $20. They have dozens to choose from.
All the best,
John




Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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That is my honest opinion to the person who brought it up. Who should not bring up such ideas here in the first place. ?Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:33?AM, Roger Moffat via groups.io <rogerkiwi@...> wrote:

?But yet you did…

?But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?

Roger

On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:30?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:

I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15



On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:

?

LOL, me too


On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via groups.io wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

? I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:

? W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell



Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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But yet you did…

?But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?

Roger

On Mar 12, 2025, at 11:30?AM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:

I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15



On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:

?

LOL, me too


On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via groups.io wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

? I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:

? W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell



Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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I did not bring this up someone else did but I have my own opinion and I will not say nothing. To me it is not a joke.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15



On Mar 12, 2025, at 7:30?AM, Leslie Kirk <leslie@...> wrote:

?

LOL, me too


On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via groups.io wrote:
Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

? I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:

? W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell


Re: Searching for an adapter

 

Also, you "may" need a pre-amp for your headphones. Not sure.
Depends on the signal strength.
Hopefully you won't need it, but I just picked on up from Amazon for $20. They have dozens to choose from.
All the best,
John


Re: Searching for an adapter

 

t looks like it would work, but I’m not sure about the charging aspect. The adapter is meant to connect the digital piano to the iPad. I just need the adapter to have a headphone jack. Thanks. I’ll search the site and see if there’s anything similar without the charging aspect.


Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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LOL, me too


On 3/11/25 4:27 PM, Susan Tropeano via groups.io wrote:

Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

? I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:

? W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell


Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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It was!

:-)

On 11 Mar 2025, at 22.27, Susan Tropeano via groups.io <stropeano@...> wrote:

Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

?I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:

?W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell



Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

Please keep your political opinions to yourself, Ellen. ?This is iomug, not X or Reddit.


Re: Searching for an adapter

 

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Is this what you mean?


On Mar 11, 2025, at 16:59, Dana Hunter via groups.io <chicnoir7@...> wrote:

?
I have a Digital piano that’s connected to my iPad Pro by an USB to lightning adapter.?
I was looking for a way to hook up my headphones so I can hear the app on my iPad while playing. There is a jack that goes into the keyboard. But you can’t hear the iPad.?
Apple doesn’t make or encourage it. I’m trying to see if there’s an adapter where I can put an 3mm jack and USB into a lightning USB-C.?
?
I’m trying to spare my neighbors.


Re: Searching for an adapter

 

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Bluetooth headphones?

Jerry

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:59?PM, Dana Hunter via groups.io <chicnoir7@...> wrote:

I have a Digital piano that’s connected to my iPad Pro by an USB to lightning adapter.?
I was looking for a way to hook up my headphones so I can hear the app on my iPad while playing. There is a jack that goes into the keyboard. But you can’t hear the iPad.?
Apple doesn’t make or encourage it. I’m trying to see if there’s an adapter where I can put an 3mm jack and USB into a lightning USB-C.?
?
I’m trying to spare my neighbors.


Searching for an adapter

 

I have a Digital piano that’s connected to my iPad Pro by an USB to lightning adapter.?
I was looking for a way to hook up my headphones so I can hear the app on my iPad while playing. There is a jack that goes into the keyboard. But you can’t hear the iPad.?
Apple doesn’t make or encourage it. I’m trying to see if there’s an adapter where I can put an 3mm jack and USB into a lightning USB-C.?
?
I’m trying to spare my neighbors.


Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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Ahhhhhhhhh, yes. He did say that.


Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 1:48 PM, kurt youngmann <tgobbi@...> wrote:

W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell



Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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Well, geez. That was quite the generalization. I took the original post to be intended as a joke.?


On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:07?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <iomug@...> wrote:

?I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:

?W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell


Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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I haven’t heard anything official about Iomug being shut down. I don’t know if Elon would even do something like that. I’d be surprised if he even knows it exist! But those on the left would love to start a controversy, which is probably why this has come up.?
Ellen?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 4:48?PM, kurt youngmann via groups.io <tgobbi@...> wrote:

?W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell


Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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W.C. Fields said it best: “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t

Kurt Youngmann

On Mar 11, 2025, at 3:08?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?


***

“The fundamental cause of the?trouble is that in the modern world?the stupid are cocksure while the?intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell


Re: Did Elon shut down IOMUG too?

 

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I think people are just aw struck, and their attention is on the baloney going on. Baffle people with bull, so they don’t have time to notice the really bad stuff he is pulling.?

All 4 of the lists I am on are very quiet.?


Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On Mar 11, 2025, at 5:01 AM, Peter Rasmusen <peter@...> wrote:



Just wondering … very quiet