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Re: iPhone 16. Are some services optional?

 

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You are not required to enable these features. Neither will be turned on when you start using your device. The data associated with them are stored locally on the device, so there’s no way to have that exist before you power it on.

That said, I highly recommend using Face ID because it’s more efficient and secure most of the time. Again, no clouds involved here.

On Apr 15, 2025, at 13:39, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:

We have a couple of old iPhones. I am going to get one iPhone 16e (probably). My question is;
are face recognition & artificial "intelligence" optional? Can they be turned off?
?
Please, let us not get into a long back and forth about why or why not one should use these services.
Let us first hear from some people who might know the answer to the my actual question.
?
Steve
PS. Sorry but, I am finally that cranky old man ...


Re: iPhone 16. Are some services optional?

 

When are you going to get that 16e? Is it out? Will it cost $9000? I've been waiting for it.
Barbara

On Tuesday, April 15, 2025 at 04:39:08 PM EDT, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:


We have a couple of old iPhones. I am going to get one iPhone 16e (probably). My question is;
are face recognition & artificial "intelligence" optional? Can they be turned off?
?
Please, let us not get into a long back and forth about why or why not one should use these services.
Let us first hear from some people who might know the answer to the my actual question.
?
Steve
PS. Sorry but, I am finally that cranky old man ...


Re: iPhone 16. Are some services optional?

 

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To disable Face ID on an iPhone 16, you can?go to Settings > Face ID & Passcode and then toggle off the options you want to disable.?For example, you can turn off iPhone Unlock or iTunes & App Store purchases.?To completely disable Face ID, you can reset it in the same settings menu.?

To disable Apple Intelligence on your iPhone 16,?go to Settings > Apple Intelligence & Siri and toggle the switch next to "Apple Intelligence" to the off position.?Confirm your choice by tapping "Turn Off Apple Intelligence".?This will disable all features powered by Apple Intelligence,?.?

Pat

On Apr 15, 2025, at 2:39?PM, Steve Bee via groups.io <buytcfhe@...> wrote:

We have a couple of old iPhones. I am going to get one iPhone 16e (probably). My question is;
are face recognition & artificial "intelligence" optional? Can they be turned off?
?
Please, let us not get into a long back and forth about why or why not one should use these services.
Let us first hear from some people who might know the answer to the my actual question.
?
Steve
PS. Sorry but, I am finally that cranky old man ...


Re: iPhone 16. Are some services optional?

 

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I know the feeling. I want to know if AI can be avoided, too.?

You still have to have an unlock pin and know it with Face ID, so other than someone using that to open the phone while you are not in control, is a lesser issue. I have ApplePay set to require the pin.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Apr 15, 2025, at 13:39, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:

?
We have a couple of old iPhones. I am going to get one iPhone 16e (probably). My question is;
are face recognition & artificial "intelligence" optional? Can they be turned off?
?
Please, let us not get into a long back and forth about why or why not one should use these services.
Let us first hear from some people who might know the answer to the my actual question.
?
Steve
PS. Sorry but, I am finally that cranky old man ...


iPhone 16. Are some services optional?

 

We have a couple of old iPhones. I am going to get one iPhone 16e (probably). My question is;
are face recognition & artificial "intelligence" optional? Can they be turned off?
?
Please, let us not get into a long back and forth about why or why not one should use these services.
Let us first hear from some people who might know the answer to the my actual question.
?
Steve
PS. Sorry but, I am finally that cranky old man ...


Re: Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

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On Apr 14, 2025, at 10:45?PM, Randy B. Singer via groups.io <randy@...> wrote:
On Apr 14, 2025, at 12:15 PM, John via??<OceanCity@...> wrote:

There used to be a way that you would block two ports on your router and the nagging would stop.

I wouldn’t do this. ?If you block communications from Apple, you block everything, including very important security updates. ?For instance, I have a Mac running Mojave (macOS 10.14). ?I just ran Silent Knight on it, and even though Apple no longer regularly updates Macs running Mojave, they pushed out a security update to my machine less than a week ago. ?I don’t know what that was for, but I bet that it was something that I really wanted to have.

Randy B. Singer

Randy,

Good point, and I believe you are correct about the possibility and probability of blocking these ports would probably block the security updates, as well as OS updates.

In any event, the port blocking no longer works, but if it did, now considering your post I would not block them.

I get emails directly from Apple on the day of the public update and upgrade launches so this way I know to mark my calendar a week or so to run the installation.

Thank you for pointing this out.

All the best,
John?


Re: Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

On Apr 14, 2025, at 12:15 PM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:

There used to be a way that you would block two ports on your router and the nagging would stop.
I wouldn’t do this. If you block communications from Apple, you block everything, including very important security updates. For instance, I have a Mac running Mojave (macOS 10.14). I just ran Silent Knight on it, and even though Apple no longer regularly updates Macs running Mojave, they pushed out a security update to my machine less than a week ago. I don’t know what that was for, but I bet that it was something that I really wanted to have.

Someone figured out how to go into the low level OS components and disable the mechanism that alerts you of an available update, but I don’t think that is something that anyone here should be playing with.


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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Re: Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

On Apr 14, 2025, at 6:56 PM, robfrankel via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:

In fact, Apple got in big trouble with the EU for its practice of built-in obsolescence a few years ago, when data confirmed that its iOS upgrades were indeed designed to slow operations on older iPhones.

That’s what paranoid people attributed it to, yes. However, in actuality Apple throttled performance a bit on devices with older batteries with the intention of preventing unexpected shutdowns caused by batteries that could no longer handle peak power demands.

Since then, Apple has introduced more transparency by adding a "Battery Health" feature in iOS, allowing users to monitor their battery's condition and decide whether to enable performance management.

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Re: Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

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“??It should be your option to upgrade, not Apple's“

As far as I know, it has always been my option to upgrade. If I go to settings and there’s a notice that says upgrade and I don’t wanna do it I don’t press on it. It doesn’t get upgraded however, as I said earlier, I think it’s two once advantage to upgrade for security reasons because basically that’s what the upgrades do so it says.
Ellen Lerner?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

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On Apr 14, 2025, at 9:56?PM, robfrankel via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:

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Actually, when I search for solutions, I see people complaining that this happens until you upgrade. Nobody has solved this yet. ?It should be your option to upgrade, not Apple's mandate. In fact, Apple got in big trouble with the EU for its practice of built-in obsolescence a few years ago, when data confirmed that its iOS upgrades were indeed designed to slow operations on older iPhones.
?
Rob


Re: Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

Actually, when I search for solutions, I see people complaining that this happens until you upgrade. Nobody has solved this yet. ?It should be your option to upgrade, not Apple's mandate. In fact, Apple got in big trouble with the EU for its practice of built-in obsolescence a few years ago, when data confirmed that its iOS upgrades were indeed designed to slow operations on older iPhones.
?
Rob


Re: Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

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On Apr 14, 2025, at 10:19?AM, robfrankel via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:
Anyone know of a good hack?
TIA,
Rob

Rob,

There used to be a way that you would block two ports on your router and the nagging would stop.
I haven't used this method in a while because it stopped working. I don't know why.

But if you have the patience try Googling something like "macOS Sequoia router port block update upgrade".?

If you find something that works please post. That stupid thing drives me nuts too.
I just don't have the timer right now to fool around with it.?

All the best,
John?


Re: Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

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The usual way I find out about upgrades is by going to settings and mentions when you have an upgrade. My husband never liked upgrades and sometimes I don’t either but when you don’t upgrade, he found out he was missing a lot of things he needed that suddenly showed up after the last upgrade. My understanding of system upgrades is that they take care of some of the spam threats that are made against Apple computers, etc. So it’s just my opinion, but I wouldn’t discount upgrades totally. I’m not fond of some of the things that they add sometimes and I end up deleting them or stopping them but hole I think it’s a good idea. Also, Safari has its own grades as well that show upin the settings app under upgrades.?
Ellen Lerner?

Sent from my iphone max pro 15

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On Apr 14, 2025, at 11:13?AM, Ben Rosenthal via groups.io <ben@...> wrote:

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?Odd. Maybe update to 15.4 and see if it stops.

On Apr 14, 2025, at 07:19, robfrankel via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:

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Greetings:
?
Does anyone know how to eliminate the Apple System Upgrade Nag?without upgrading? ?None of the extensive searches I've done offers a solution to this problem. ?If I sweep the nag away, it just comes back after a little while. It's asking me to upgrade to macOS Sequoia. ?I'm running Sequoia 15.3.2. ?Screenshot is the upper right corner of my screen.
?
Aside from the annoyance, I'm not fond of Apple insisting what I do with my own machine. ?

Anyone know of a good hack?
?
TIA,
?
Rob
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Re: Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

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?Odd. Maybe update to 15.4 and see if it stops.

On Apr 14, 2025, at 07:19, robfrankel via groups.io <rob@...> wrote:

?
Greetings:
?
Does anyone know how to eliminate the Apple System Upgrade Nag?without upgrading? ?None of the extensive searches I've done offers a solution to this problem. ?If I sweep the nag away, it just comes back after a little while. It's asking me to upgrade to macOS Sequoia. ?I'm running Sequoia 15.3.2. ?Screenshot is the upper right corner of my screen.
?
Aside from the annoyance, I'm not fond of Apple insisting what I do with my own machine. ?

Anyone know of a good hack?
?
TIA,
?
Rob
?
<Screenshot 2025-04-14 at 7.15.58AM.png>


Eliminating the System Update Nag

 

Greetings:
?
Does anyone know how to eliminate the Apple System Upgrade Nag?without upgrading? ?None of the extensive searches I've done offers a solution to this problem. ?If I sweep the nag away, it just comes back after a little while. It's asking me to upgrade to macOS Sequoia. ?I'm running Sequoia 15.3.2. ?Screenshot is the upper right corner of my screen.
?
Aside from the annoyance, I'm not fond of Apple insisting what I do with my own machine. ?

Anyone know of a good hack?
?
TIA,
?
Rob
?


Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?

 

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On Apr 11, 2025, at 3:26?AM, Peter Rasmusen via groups.io <peter@...> wrote:
Another thought is: How much mail do you have? How much space does it take up? (~/Library/Mail/V10 … cmd-i)?
Peter

Hi Peter,

I checked my?~/Library/Mail/ folder and it's only 9GB total.

I have a 2TB internal SSD, and multiple NAS's, so the only real practical reason I was looking for emails to delete was to unclutter lots of old emails that I'll never need and thus simply Mail's indexing overhead. I like a clean machine, LOL.

Thank you for your insight. I had not thought of that simple inquiry.

All the best,
John?



Re: Warning: New MacBook Pro M4 Pro & Old Monitor

 

On Apr 11, 2025, at 5:48 AM, Bob Gerard via groups.io <rowerbob@...> wrote:

You are THE man, Randy. Thanks for that super-useful chart which I have added to the info I have saved on this subject.
My pleasure. One other thing. No Macintosh supports USB 3.2 (20 Gbps). Any USB 3.2 device will fall back to USB 3.1 (10 Gbps). So don’t get excited if you see an external SSD for sale that says that it supports 20 Gbps.

If you have a new M4 mini, and you want a wildly fast (40 Gbps) external SSD (because a large internal SSD from Apple is too expensive), you have to put one together yourself. But it’s dead easy to do with the right case kit and an NVMe SSD stick. A 40 Gbps external SSD will be almost as fast as an internal SSD.

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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HDMI 2.2 vs. HDMI 2.1: What You Need to Know | WIRED

 

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Since we were discussing HDMI versions; this out today.

Bob
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"Better to be?a dog in?times of?tranquility?than a?human in?times?of?chaos.”?
(寧為太平犬,不做乱世人)


Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?

 

On Apr 11, 2025, at 1:53?AM, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:
You said John was SOL. From my old car rally days, that meant “sign on left.” So why was John sign on left? Just curious.
. . . because "I'm out of luck."

Hahahaha

Cheers,
John


Re: How to Auto-Delete old emails after xx days?

 

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Shit out of luck I presume.?
Sent from iPhone

On Apr 11, 2025, at 1:54?AM, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:

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You said John was SOL. From my old car rally days, that meant “sign on left.” So why was John sign on left? Just curious.?

On Apr 10, 2025, at 11:23?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?What sign on left of what?


Brent ?

On my late 2012 Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On Apr 10, 2025, at 1:45 PM, Jerald Levinson via <levinson@...> wrote:

Sign On Left?

On Apr 10, 2025, at 10:09?PM, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

?I guess I am all wet.?

I don’t use the feature “delete after”. And now that a couple of you have reminded me, it is a setting to delete emails from Trash.?

So I am not aware of another built-in “delete after” feature in Mail. So I think John is SOL.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Apr 9, 2025, at 14:23, Ben Rosenthal via <ben@...> wrote:

?Brent, are you referring to the Mailbox Behaviors setting that automatically deletes emails in the Junk or Trash mailboxes after a day, week, or month?

On Apr 9, 2025, at 13:27, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

Unless there is a major change in Mail with Sequoia, the ability to delete emails after XX days was a universal setting that applied to all emails.?




Re: Warning: New MacBook Pro M4 Pro & Old Monitor

 

You are THE man, Randy. ?Thanks for that super-useful chart which I have added to the info I have saved on this subject.