I was about to ask Jerald what he needed the periodic scripts for, but I think Randy answered that question. By removing the logs, it makes the scripts unneeded.?
The one time I had a run away log, a restart after removing contrary app was all I needed to fix it. The only ?stronger repairs that I have needed to do in 20 years has been done by either Disk Utility/ First Aid, or a restart into Safe Mode.?
If we need a repair tool, I’m sure a new one will come about. I look at this change like when we no longer needed to resolve Extension Conflicts in System 7.?
From: "Randy B. Singer via groups.io" <randy@...> Date: March 17, 2025 at 19:08:39 PDT To:[email protected] Subject:Re: [iomug] Periodic Scripts Reply-To:[email protected]
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On Mar 17, 2025, at 11:49 AM, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:
Apple doesn’t seem to be saying anything about this, but that’s Apple, I guess. One less thing worry about.
Thank you for pointing this out.
I have mixed feelings about this.
Sequoia no longer runs daily, weekly and monthly "maintenance" scripts. ?I'm assuming that's because the logs that those scripts used to clean up no longer exist.
If they eliminated those logs, they have done away with a valuable tool for figuring out what is going on when your Mac is acting strangely.
On the other hand, runaway log files were a not-insignificant problem for a very few users. ?One that was hard to figure out unless you found someone who recognized the situation. ?No log files means no more runaway logs.
On Mar 17, 2025, at 11:49 AM, Jerald Levinson via groups.io <levinson@...> wrote:
Apple doesn’t seem to be saying anything about this, but that’s Apple, I guess. One less thing worry about.
Thank you for pointing this out.
I have mixed feelings about this.
Sequoia no longer runs daily, weekly and monthly "maintenance" scripts. I'm assuming that's because the logs that those scripts used to clean up no longer exist.
If they eliminated those logs, they have done away with a valuable tool for figuring out what is going on when your Mac is acting strangely.
On the other hand, runaway log files were a not-insignificant problem for a very few users. One that was hard to figure out unless you found someone who recognized the situation. No log files means no more runaway logs.
In reading the recent emails about periodic scripts (daily.out, etc.) and Mac maintenance, I looked for them on my MBA (Sequoia) and, lo and behold, Apple has removed them.?
I got confirmation from the makers of Maintenance & OnyX that this is correct. Those actions have been removed from both apps for the Sequoia versions. ?Apple doesn’t seem to be saying anything about this, but that’s Apple, I guess. One less thing worry about.
I’m on Sequoia 15.3.2 and I have never used HomeKit nor have I any intentions of using it. The pop-up began to appear when I upgraded fra 15.3.1 to 15.3.2?
And yes, everything is turned off … no notifications, icloud etc. I checked your very helpful 1-2-3 list and it’s all off.?
Yet, I get the pop-up when I restart and when I start the computer in the morning.?
:-)?
I'll keep digging and try to call Apple support - and promise to report back If I get new info.?
On 13 Mar 2025, at 21.02, Steve Bee <buytcfhe@...> wrote:
Peter, you don't say what OS you are using but I will assume that it is fairly recent. You also don't say if you are or have ever used or experimented with the Home app or HomeKit.
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The changes made to System Preferences have confused many people including myself. When I get a new computer I go through the settings and turn off everything that I don't use so I don't remember what is on by default. The System Preferences window has a search box which I need to use since the method of organization there is opaque to me.
In System Preferences
1. go to (click on) the Apple ID setting on the top of the "table of contents"
click on iCloud
under "Apps Using iCloud" click on "Show All"
scroll down the list to find "Home" and, using the slider, turn it off
?I have an M1 MBP running the latest Sequoia. My ISP is gmail. On many occasions, I have to wait a long time before mail received in gmail is seen in Apple Mail's inbox. I can look at the unread mail via my phone or via gmail.com on a browser.
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If I switch from viewing the inbox to viewing "junk" and then back to the inbox, sometimes the inbox gets new mail but not always. Also "Get mail" doesn't do the trick.
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I have tried the mailbox/rebuild command but that didn't help.
Peter, you don't say what OS you are using but I will assume that it is fairly recent. You also don't say if you are or have ever used or experimented with the Home app or HomeKit.
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The changes made to System Preferences have confused many people including myself. When I get a new computer I go through the settings and turn off everything that I don't use so I don't remember what is on by default. The System Preferences window has a search box which I need to use since the method of organization there is opaque to me.
In System Preferences
1. go to (click on) the Apple ID setting on the top of the "table of contents"
click on iCloud
under "Apps Using iCloud" click on "Show All"
scroll down the list to find "Home" and, using the slider, turn it off
On Mar 13, 2025, at 07:22, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
?I really can’t keep up with a lot of changes. I hate having different plug-ins or whatever. I just want a device where I can put in in an earphone and
?just listen, and it just isn’t anymore and I don’t know why Apple keeps changing things so I go crazy. Every little addition that I need for my phone gets lost or I just misplaced it . I can’t keep track of ?anything anymore. I’m just getting too old for this.
Ellen?
Sent from my iphone max pro 15
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On Mar 12, 2025, at 2:27?PM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:
?On Mar 12, 2025, at 2:19?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
I hope that eventually the headphone adapters will get reinstated into newer phones. Ellen
Hi Ellen,
Interesting saga with your headphones issues.
I could be wrong, but going back to mini-plugs, lightning, and even USB-C, can't one still plug in wired headphones directly if they are matching jacks and plugs?
There are specific advantages of having wired headphones, so I hope they keep them around.?
I dread the day when Apple decides to eliminate ALL physical ports, for whatever reason, but I hate to say it, I think they want to got he route of bluetooth and wireless charging, and thus could claim no need for any physical ports.?
What are people saying about this, or am I totally off-base?
I really can’t keep up with a lot of changes. I hate having different plug-ins or whatever. I just want a device where I can put in in an earphone and
?just listen, and it just isn’t anymore and I don’t know why Apple keeps changing things so I go crazy. Every little addition that I need for my phone gets lost or I just misplaced it . I can’t keep track of ?anything anymore. I’m just getting too old for this.
On Mar 12, 2025, at 2:27?PM, John via groups.io <OceanCity@...> wrote:
?On Mar 12, 2025, at 2:19?PM, Ellen Lerner via groups.io <usergroup.apple@...> wrote:
I hope that eventually the headphone adapters will get reinstated into newer phones. Ellen
Hi Ellen,
Interesting saga with your headphones issues.
I could be wrong, but going back to mini-plugs, lightning, and even USB-C, can't one still plug in wired headphones directly if they are matching jacks and plugs?
There are specific advantages of having wired headphones, so I hope they keep them around.?
I dread the day when Apple decides to eliminate ALL physical ports, for whatever reason, but I hate to say it, I think they want to got he route of bluetooth and wireless charging, and thus could claim no need for any physical ports.?
What are people saying about this, or am I totally off-base?
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